Mini 692: Boost Mafia (Game Over!)

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:13 am

Xtoxm wrote:You're really trying to accuse someone with an extra vote of being scum? You think the mod put a scum role into the game that makes the game reach lylo a full day-night cycle earlier, if boosted? Seriously.

Yes. Makes perfect sense, actually. For you to do that you have to a) get boosted and b) get yourself in the final 3 and in the final 5 along with a buddy. Totally balanced. Kinda underpowered for town, actually, double vote doesn't do much to help the town. Certainly not the OMG POWER ROLE you and sthar tried to display this as.

[quote="xtoxm]I've been known to do that. And as town, too.[/quote]

You would. Later you can just claim your PM wasn't clear about your alignment, so it turns out you're town after all.

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:17 am

icemanE wrote:RR - I don't understand you. You're obvious scum, and yet you press forward the idea that Xtoxm and I are buddies. If I die and flip town, are you suddenly going to consider Xtoxm cleared? How do you conclude that we're buddies? Agreeing that you're scum by no means makes us scumbuddies.

What makes you buddies is, first and foremost, both of you being obvscum. Then there's the brief contrived vote on each other that's soon exchanged for a vote on me and a united front on the other guy being clearly town. Then there's xtoxm trying to buy you another night, preferably even a boost, and if he can get a town power role to counterclaim that'd be icing on the cake.

But no, if you'll somehow flip town I'll still think xtoxm's scum.

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:18 am

Raging Rabbit wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:You're really trying to accuse someone with an extra vote of being scum? You think the mod put a scum role into the game that makes the game reach lylo a full day-night cycle earlier, if boosted? Seriously.
Yes. Makes perfect sense, actually. For you to do that you have to a) get boosted and b) get yourself in the final 3
or
in the final 5 along with a buddy. Totally balanced. Kinda underpowered for town, actually, double vote doesn't do much to help the town. Certainly not the OMG POWER ROLE you and sthar tried to display this as.

xtoxm wrote:I've been known to do that. And as town, too.
You would. Later you can just claim your PM wasn't clear about your alignment, so it turns out you're town after all.

Fixed.

icemanE · Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:24 pm

What makes you buddies is, first and foremost, both of you being obvscum. Then there's the brief contrived vote on each other that's soon exchanged for a vote on me and a united front on the other guy being clearly town. Then there's xtoxm trying to buy you another night, preferably even a boost, and if he can get a town power role to counterclaim that'd be icing on the cake.

Yup, you caught us! That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you play scum!

I'm not going to get into WIFOM, but no. That's idiocy.

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:48 pm

Desperate times call for despertate measures.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:47 pm

Think Ice is still at L-1...

No one hammer please

, and I would like it if someone could unvote while we talk about this. I think this could be the defining point whether town wins or not.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:38 pm

But no, if you'll somehow flip town I'll still think xtoxm's scum.

Oh look, RR know Ice would flip town.

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:38 pm

Answering his question means I know how he'll flip? Right...

vollkan · Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:19 am

Iceman wrote: Forgot I even had it until I was asked to claim.

:S Hmm... Fine, you might possibly forget your role at some point, but it begs belief that, at the end of Day One, a protown player in the position of not knowing their role would somehow not think "Oh, gee, it might be a good idea to make sure I don't have a role". Either you are lying, or you are playing absolutely atrociously.

Eldarad wrote: I kinda could believe that except that you replaced in about a day before Night 1.

And this ^

Incognito · Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:34 am

Raging Rabbit, you'd really do a better job focusing your energy on someone other than Xtoxm. He's so obvtown it hurts.

Xtoxm-scum in Mini 602

And pick any Xtoxm-town game you want. Here's one where he was just lynched:

Newbie 694

Filter those posts. In his scum game, the guy only had like 20-something game-related posts and spent the majority of his time lurking with minimal to no scum hunting. In his town game, he had 100+ posts and made relevant game-related discussion. In this game he's already approaching the 100 post mark, and he hasn't even BEEN here the whole time.

icemanE, on the other hand, is still scum. I dislike how he couldn't be assed to make any kind of contribution pre-claim and now that he reached L-1 and was forced to claim, he's suddenly come alive acting like we should allow him to remain in the game just because he claimed an investigative role. Seriously, this is one of the laziest fakeclaims I've ever seen. I still really would like an answer to this:

1027, Incognito wrote:I'd like to know why THREE completely separate-minded individuals (fuzzylightning, RandomGem, and now icemanE) have all SUPPOSEDLY had this role and not ONE of them questioned the validity of Electra's early INFORMATION ROLE claim.

icemanE?

icemanE · Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:39 am

I'd like to know why THREE completely separate-minded individuals (fuzzylightning, RandomGem, and now icemanE) have all SUPPOSEDLY had this role and not ONE of them questioned the validity of Electra's early INFORMATION ROLE claim.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THAT.

Incognito · Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:40 am

You can answer for yourself... Why did you never mention anything about it?

icemanE · Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:43 am

vote: icemanE

This is getting tiresome. I wish the town good luck - I'm not going to blame anyone but myself for my poor performance, but I'm also not going to waste time fighting for a lost cause. Not lynching me today would be a bad thing in the long run.

Peace.

icemanE · Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:43 am

ugh.

unvote - vote: icemanE

Incognito · Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:47 am

P.S. That wasn't a self-hammer. You've just revoted yourself to L-1.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:50 am

Ice what the fuck is wrong with you?? Self sacrifice is not ok as cop

Xtoxm · Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:02 am

Well Incog, if we lynch Ice as cop, and you die tonight, they'll lynch me, and town will lose. (Probable scenario at this point)

Xtoxm · Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:04 am

Ice, please unvote and get your self replaced, you clearly don't want to be here and have no intention of playing

icemanE · Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:11 am

unvote

There's not really enough time for a replacement. I have been trying to play for the past couple of days - I really do think I will be a possible game-losing liability in a lylo situation.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:17 am

If you don't get yourself replaced, then please play properly. There's always enough time for replacements, people flake all the time.

I understand you could be a liability, but if you're cop, the scum will need to kill you anyway, and with a dead GF, you will likely become confirmed, and there is almost certainly nothing to make you produce incorrect results, I would imagine. ATLEAST can you try and stay till tomorrow and produce a result.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:17 am

Plus, you have me on your side, and I have 2 votes, and the scum never kill me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:20 am

Anyway, someone still needs to counter my logic. With a dead GF, we know there's a cop-style role somewhere. No one challenges Ice for this role. So Ice is the cop, no matter how scummy you think he is. Yes?

Incognito · Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:26 am

Xtoxm wrote:Anyway, someone still needs to counter my logic. With a dead GF, we know there's a cop-style role somewhere. No one challenges Ice for this role. So Ice is the cop, no matter how scummy you think he is. Yes?

I don't think a GF automatically implies that we have a cop somewhere in the midst. I've seen plenty of games that have had GFs yet no cops. Maybe this game's GF was meant to counteract me in a way with some kind of NK immunity or something of that sort.

icemanE, please write up a list of suspicions. You owe to that game if you're going to stick around.

icemanE · Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:30 am

OK, I will have that in a couple hours.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:54 am

Here is one of Patrick's GF's from another game (PYP3):

You have Godfather abilities. Any cop investigations on you will show up innocent, and you are immune to nightkills. Each night, you may, if you wish, choose to be "immune" to a weak doctor or a hider, meaning that if that roles targets you that night, they will not die. You may be immune to both on the same night if you wish. Finally, any advanced masoniser that attempts to recruit you and fails will not be able to try again.

I will look through his other modded games see if I find any others...