Mini #704: Hunchback of Notre Dame, Game Over


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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:03 am

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Day Four: Vote Count #1


2 ThAdmiral (destructor, Machiavellian-Mafia)
1 destructor (ThAdmiral)

With
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to lynch at deadline. Deadline is February 9, 11:59 pm CDT.

Not Voting – 4 – Axelrod, korejora, ortolan, Urzassedatives

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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:29 am

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What did he do to need replacement?
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:06 am

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destructor wrote:
Mod:
I'm going to be on LA for about three weeks. I can try to get on once every few days, depending on whether or not I can find free wireless hotspots. heh. If this is a problem, I can help you find a replacement or something. =/
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 am

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I'm home again for the day. I've found out there's a internet cafe down the road from where I'm staying, so I'll be getting online at least once every two or three days. I think that should give me enough time to respond to whatever is going on here.

I'll be home until tomorrow morning, so I can get another post in before I leave. That's around this time tomorrow. If anyone has anything they want to ask me, now's a good time.

I'm mostly just waiting for you guys to decide what you're going to do.
Any thoughts on my claim? Is ThAd supposed to claim too? Are we going to go for a mass flavour claim?
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:54 pm

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I have zero problems with a mass flavour claim. Is there any reason why we shouldn't?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:10 pm

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I don't see why not. We should at least hear ThAd's, either way.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:36 am

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Apparently I have a "pendant for meringueing"... or something.






(im a townsperson)
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:13 am

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can you be more detailed? What's the pendant for?
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:14 am

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I also want Urza to claim his favour, and don't see any harm in Axelrod doing so either.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:02 am

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But not MM?
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:43 am

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Sorry- MM too, I forgot about him.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:18 pm

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Pendant thing was a joke. I have a "penchant for haranguing". If you're a vanilla townie as well you will know what I'm talking about.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:26 pm

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ah right yer I thought it sounded familiar and was probably "penchant" rather than "pendant" (the role pm is in the rules section). Interesting.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:18 pm

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My flavor is the same flavor as the first sample role PM in one of our mod's opening posts.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:23 pm

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Urza, Axelrod?
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:06 am

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Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:My flavor is the same flavor as the first sample role PM in one of our mod's opening posts.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:32 pm

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Urza, so glad you could join us. What's your role?


i am teh scumz
ive got the vanilla townie PM in the rules post, hurr durr


Thanks, Urza!

On with business...

This isn't really a matter of whether we want to gamble on keeping a town power role; we essentially have zero power roles at this point. The only question is: do we think destructor is scum, or ThAdmiral? While yes, it's a little safer to lynch destructor, since we know we can't immediately lose if we do (if it's a mislynch then the traitor can't be alive) I skimmed through their posts and I feel like ThAdmiral is just a more likely candidate.

destructor's playing is consistent with his claim: he dances around a bit on the first day (nothing to worry about, it being the first day), often coming back to CarnCarn, which supports the idea that he would have chosen CarnCarn as a target. Then, he pretty much fires the missiles at CarnCarn all of day two - consistent with him having gotten a 'guilty'. Then he goes straight for Mizzy on the third day, having his "true" guilty. Plus it seems to me that there is just plenty of contribution from him in general.

ThAdmiral doesn't have anything particularly concrete for me to go on. He didn't talk as much, didn't contribute as much, and his votes tended to go on people we can now confirm were not one of the two mafiates. Towards the start of the game he tended to direct his comments at specific people, which feels a little odd to me, as it lets him direct discussion to specific things (and other players) already on the table and avoid drawing attention to himself. Nothing really solid, but I think as compared to destructor - who is necessarily the opposite alignment to him - ThAdmiral looks like the worse.

/discuss?
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:03 pm

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well I don't recall having found ThAdmiral particularly scummy all game, he perhaps has posted somewhat minimally though.

But I feel the same way about destructor- from day two onwards I've found him aggressive but not particularly scummy, and his claim does explain his approach to CarnCarn

Were it not for the situation that one or the other has to be scum, I'd probably be voting Urza, and as I said I think he's a likely scumbuddy for EITHER of them.

But destructor is the safest lynch- if he is town then Mizzy was the traitor, in which case there's only 2 scum left and we can afford a mislynch. The problem is if destructor flips town- is he actually town or the traitor? His claim as far as I can see is a good gambit by the traitor, which would give away the identity of the traitor to the scum (claiming a false "guilty" on an innocent). So even if destructor flips "town" we cannot actually be sure ThAdmiral is scum.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:58 am

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you've got to be lynching destructor over me.

I always felt that destructor was town as well, but that makes sense as the mafia have obviously been playing well.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:06 am

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We have to take the safe percentage lynch here.

Its a simple case of cost-benefit analysis.

I am vanilla, my role pm is the one posted at the beginning of the game.

I will probably be the lynch tomorrow depending on how thadmiral flips.

I'm ok with that. Go out there and get the real scums after me, k?

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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:41 pm

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what? how am I the safe percentage lynch.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:42 pm

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Oops, I meant destructor. My bad.

Unvote, vote: Destructor.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:44 pm

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wow, that's really, really unconvincing- looks like you were hoping someone would hammer ThAdmiral before you unvoted

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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:44 pm

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*he's only on L-2

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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:00 pm

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I have resigned myself to my lynch tomorrow if destructor flips scum.

I don't mind you attacking me.

Just get the real scum after you lynch me.

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