Mini 731 Speed Dating Smalltown: Over!

[shaft.ed]

It appears that I will also be replacing BSG

Current deadline is for two weeks from today. I may consider moving that depending on how long the replacements take to gather together.

[shaft.ed]

hohum replaces Seraphim effective immediately.

One more to go

[shaft.ed]

To simplify for the replacements

Vote Count:

neko2086

(4) Oman, Shanba, Empking, farside22

Empking

(2) Xtoxm, BSG

orangepenguin

(1) Korts

hohum

(1) neko2086

MafiaSSK

(1) orangepenguin

Not Voting

: hohum, MafiaSSK, Tanarin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch or 6 to No Lynch.

[hohum]

BSG: I'm getting a town vibe from Tan in our private convos.

I'm surprised this didn't get more attention.

Also, the page+ argument between farside and emp gives me a headache, but my meta on farside is that she likes to argue, so null tell on her.

My meta on Empking is different, combined with things like

Neko: What is the case against you?

and keeping at farside the way he did makes me think he's trying to look busy. I want to

FoS empking

immediately.

Other than that I still need to do a little more reading and attempt insert myself into the conversation. More to follow.

[farside22]

Also, the page+ argument between farside and emp gives me a headache, but my meta on farside is that she likes to argue, so null tell on her.

Really. No one has ever said that.

[orangepenguin]

Note how OP makes a fairly good point and then concedes how he does such things too. If the latter is true, why did you think it was a scumtell in the first place?

I was basically thinking aloud. I don't have anything to hide, so I might as well type out my thought process behind everything. I think it'd be scummy for me to hide that I do stuff like that too, somethings, so I just put it out there. It didn't occur to me in the first place. My vote stands though, since I still think MafiaSSK is scummy.

[Empking]

BSG: I'm getting a town vibe from Tan in our private convos.

I'm surprised this didn't get more attention.

Also, the page+ argument between farside and emp gives me a headache, but my meta on farside is that she likes to argue, so null tell on her.

My meta on Empking is different, combined with things like

Neko: What is the case against you?

and keeping at farside the way he did makes me think he's trying to look busy. I want to

FoS empking

immediately.

Other than that I still need to do a little more reading and attempt insert myself into the conversation. More to follow.

You think asking important questions and trying to get the most suspicious person lynched, is trying to look busy?

[hohum]

You think asking important questions and trying to get the most suspicious person lynched, is trying to look busy?

I'll answer your question in two parts, because it is two questions disguised as one.

You think asking important questions

and trying to get the most suspicious person lynched, is trying to look busy?

No, I don't think that's trying to look busy. I think that's actually being busy.

You think asking important questions and

trying to get the most suspicious person lynched

, is trying to look busy?

That's the worst thing you could possibly be doing, and that is busy work. It makes you sound like you're indifferent to your lynch target.

[Empking]

You think I was indifferent to getting Farside lynched?

[hohum]

You think I was indifferent to getting Farside lynched?

I'm saying you need to word it differently. Regardless of whether or not your case on her was valid, your wording as of right now makes it sound as if you were trying to take the easy way out by pushing for a quick lynch.

[Empking's Alt]

I was pushing for a quck lynch?

Quotes please.

[hohum]

Quotes please.

Seriously, either you need to get some sleep or I do. You

REALLY

don't understand what I just said 3 posts ago?

You think asking important questions and

trying to get the most suspicious person lynched

, is trying to look busy?

That's the worst thing you could possibly be doing, and that is busy work. It makes you sound like you're indifferent to your lynch target.

[Empking's Alt]

That's your quote not mine. I want you to quote me saying I want a quick lynch or trying to quick lynch.

[Empking]

That's your quote not mine. I want you to quote me saying I want a quick lynch or trying to quick lynch.

[hohum]

That's your quote not mine. I want you to quote me saying I want a quick lynch or trying to quick lynch.

You didn't say it, you implied it in a rather indirect way. If you had come out and said it blankly I would have simply voted for you because that would have been justification enough. As it is, you're being super defensive and the last 5 or 7 posts or so between us is a pointless waste of space.

Back off.

[Empking]

That's your quote not mine. I want you to quote me saying I want a quick lynch or trying to quick lynch.

You didn't say it, you implied it in a rather indirect way. If you had come out and said it blankly I would have simply voted for you because that would have been justification enough. As it is, you're being super defensive and the last 5 or 7 posts or so between us is a pointless waste of space.

Back off.

Stop being hostile.

Now do you have a quote of mine or is the "trying to get a QL" a work of fiction?

[shaft.ed]

ThAdmiral replaces BSG effective immediately.

Also I would like to make a public service announcement to ask people to please stop posting with alts. It makes it difficult for other players to read your posts in isolation.

[hohum]

Stop being hostile.

Now do you have a quote of mine or is the "trying to get a QL" a work of fiction?[/quote]

Accusing me of being hostile? Pot: Meet kettle.

Keep after me like that, because clearly my lack of a vote on you is cause for you to continue to drill the subject into the ground. I've already attempted to explain my statement to you and I'm truly sorry that you just don't get it.

If you're going to continue to try and pick a fight with me I might as well give you a reason.

Vote: Empking

[Korts]

Ho hum. (pun intended.)

I don't see the point in the quote you're pointing at, either, hohum. I see what you're trying to say, but to say that it's fabricated is an understatement.

Let me make this clear: you think that simply because Empking expressed an intent to lynch farside, he was going for a

quick

lynch? I don't see the correlation between conviction and speed, like you're implying.

[hohum]

Ho hum. (pun intended.)

I don't see the point in the quote you're pointing at, either, hohum. I see what you're trying to say, but to say that it's fabricated is an understatement.

Let me make this clear: you think that simply because Empking expressed an intent to lynch farside, he was going for a

quick

lynch? I don't see the correlation between conviction and speed, like you're implying.

I only pointed something out. in that he said that he was trying to get the most suspicious person lynched. This is a poor choice of words on his part because without context it almost sounds like he's saying he's going for an easy lynch.

He's the one who linked the conversation to the farside wagon in post 533:

u think I was indifferent to getting Farside lynched?

The only mention I've ever made of farside so far is the argument they had a few pages ago. What did I say about that? Simply that it gave me a headache. I made no other comments, especially about what they were arguing about because I skipped over most of it. I didn't even know he was trying to push her wagon until he pointed it out to me a few posts later.

The natural flow of my conversation (just to highlight the point I was trying to make) is posts 532, 534 and I attempted to clarify it again in 539.

I really don't care what he said anymore, it would be weak justification to hold my vote on him anyways.

What I care about is the fact that he's gone COMPLETELY off the rails over something so moot. All he's really been doing over the last half dozen pages or so is picking fights. He isn't helping us by being overly defensive and throwing temper tantrums, he's only hurting us. That is my justification for my vote.

[ThAdmiral]

I'm in.

Just reading up now (especially the interesting rules!)

[MafiaSSK]

Note how OP makes a fairly good point and then concedes how he does such things too. If the latter is true, why did you think it was a scumtell in the first place?

I was basically thinking aloud. I don't have anything to hide, so I might as well type out my thought process behind everything. I think it'd be scummy for me to hide that I do stuff like that too, somethings, so I just put it out there. It didn't occur to me in the first place. My vote stands though, since I still think MafiaSSK is scummy.

How come?

[Tanarin]

What I care about is the fact that he's gone COMPLETELY off the rails over something so moot. All he's really been doing over the last half dozen pages or so is picking fights. He isn't helping us by being overly defensive and throwing temper tantrums, he's only hurting us. That is my justification for my vote.

But do you really ant to lynch someone for basically being dumb as hell? Sadly while I do see the merits of getting rid of the deadweight early. It won't be happening today as long as Emp remains the tracker, and f we are really going to consider roles in our lynches, unless BSG's replacement changes him tonight, he will be the role switcher tomorrow.

[Oman]

Postage. I lost internet for a few days. Back though

[Shanba]

Ho hum. (pun intended.)

I don't see the point in the quote you're pointing at, either, hohum. I see what you're trying to say, but to say that it's fabricated is an understatement.

Let me make this clear: you think that simply because Empking expressed an intent to lynch farside, he was going for a

quick

lynch? I don't see the correlation between conviction and speed, like you're implying.

This, but let me elaborate a little more. The quote you took off him, where he said that he wanted to lynch the scummiest player... I simply do not see how you can interpret this as him being

indifferent

to who he's lynching. In brief, I completely disagree with your assessment that trying to get the scummiest player lynched is suspicious. Balderdash! In fact, this is the primary work of the town! It's hardly a quicklynch if we've spent 22 pages discussing it, now, is it?

That said, I don't see how you're trying to do that, Empking. You seemed convinced that farside was scum. If you believe that farside is scum, then trying to get neko lynched is not trying to lynch the most suspicious person, is it? Hrm.

What I care about is the fact that he's gone COMPLETELY off the rails over something so moot. All he's really been doing over the last half dozen pages or so is picking fights. He isn't helping us by being overly defensive and throwing temper tantrums, he's only hurting us. That is my justification for my vote.

Policy lynching is *badstuff*. I agree, he has been ridiculously unhelpful this game. But I refuse to lynch the tracker at any rate, and I refuse to lynch a player simply because they are unhelpful - that's not scumhunting, that's just lynching based on personality. Personality is meta, it's context, and you have to take it into account whenever you're looking at someone's play.