Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[DrippingGoofball]

Why are you a huge proponent of lynching millers?

In my experience

, they're about 70-80% scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, why don't you think a dayvig scum is plausible? Ask Farside if it's plausible. It was MY ROLE in her futurama game.

It's not very likely, still.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't think our mod is farside, KMD.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

10 to lynch

farside22: 4 (Caboose, qwints, Thestatusquo, populartajo)
DrippingGoofball: 3 (farside22, zwetschenwasser, CounselWolf)
camn: 3 (Kmd4390, DrippingGoofball, Jebus)
sam.samhorn: 2 (Yosarian2)
Yosarian2: 1 (scotmany12)
zwetschenwasser: 1 (hasdgfas
populartajo: 1 (camn)

Not Voting: 4 (Simenon, stark, sam.samhorn, crywolf20084)

[Kmd4390]

DGB, why don't you think a dayvig scum is plausible? Ask Farside if it's plausible. It was MY ROLE in her futurama game.

It's not very likely, still.

Why?

I don't think our mod is farside, KMD.

My point is that outguessing the Mod is never a good idea.

[zwetschenwasser]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

[hasdgfas]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

zwet, if you're gambiting, you're supposed to be the one who's finding the reactions, not leaving them for others to find.

Also, you're no DGB.

[scotmany12]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

So you lied to us... Yeah, great move there.

[Kmd4390]

Yeah, an unprovoked fakeclaim. And nothing to give us from it?

Interesting move...

[Thestatusquo]

TSQ seems to be trying abnormally hard to lynch me on any grounds.

Not really.

On one ground. I don't like letting miller claims into the meta. This is purely and simply a meta policy issue.

Also, as DGB said miller claims are very likely to come from scum, but thats a problem with the meta of NOT lynching claimed millers, which is why I try to correct it.

In addition, I would note that you've claimed nothing else- No flavor, no role name, etc. Why not?

[Thestatusquo]

Oh, I see you did post name.

Anyway,

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

Die.

Vote: zwetschenwasser

[DrippingGoofball]

We're not lynching zwet.

[Thestatusquo]

Why should we not?

He claimed miller out of the blue, and then he retracted the claim when it became obvious he was drawing fire for it. He has lied in one way or another, and I am not able to see a pro town motivation for either of the lies.

You'd better have a damn good reason why we shouldn't lynch him if you're going to assert as such.

[zwetschenwasser]

I idolize DGB.

[Caboose]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

Vote: zwetschenwasser

[DrippingGoofball]

Why should we not?

He claimed miller out of the blue, and then he retracted the claim when it became obvious he was drawing fire for it. He has lied in one way or another, and I am not able to see a pro town motivation for either of the lies.

I can tell from his tone thus far that it was nothing but provocation.

You'd better have a damn good reason why we shouldn't lynch him if you're going to assert as such.

Post 138, haha.

Did you know that, according to Wikipedia, Sir Gawain's strength waxes and wanes with the sun; in the most common form of this motif, his might triples by noon, but fades as the sun sets.

Sir Gawain had three children.

OK?

[Thestatusquo]

I can tell from his tone thus far that it was nothing but provocation.

What does this even mean?

Did you know that, according to Wikipedia, Sir Gawain's strength waxes and wanes with the sun; in the most common form of this motif, his might triples by noon, but fades as the sun sets.

Sir Gawain had three children. OK?

Are you saying that you believe the claim because early in d1 he was a powerful role with a drawback, and now not 2 days later, he's something else? I highly doubt that the mechanic that you're claiming FOR HIM functions in that way.

Fos: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

I can tell from his tone thus far that it was nothing but provocation.

What does this even mean?

I can read his tone. He's not scum.

Sir Gawain had three children. OK?

Are you saying that you believe the claim because early in d1 he was a powerful role with a drawback, and now not 2 days later, he's something else? I highly doubt that the mechanic that you're claiming FOR HIM functions in that way.

No. zwet claimed to be Sir Gawain's son. Sir Gawain had three sons. Sir Gawain was a good guy. His three sons died together as heroes.

[qwints]

Lynch all liars.

vote: zwet

Are you fucking serious?

[Yosarian2]

Also, are we all trying to outguess the mod? DGB camn, you guys should know better. At least, DGB definitely should. You know damn well OGML is a very experienced mod who knows not to fall into standard meta pitfalls.

Nah. Still. Not buying the dayvig-scum.

Meh, no reason there can't be daykilling-scum, I've seen mafia members with one-shot daykills before more then once, and a daykilling SK isn't out of the question either.

Now, as I said, I do tend to doubt a scum with a daykill would claim so out of the blue on day 1.

[Yosarian2]

I dont policy lynch millers. I lynch based on behaviour. If you are scummy you die. This isnt about general meta. This is about this game.
Your kill should definitely be used today and in the second suspect of the day.
With that said I disagree with TSQ plan.

Why, pop?

If you think the claimed daykiller is likely to be scum, forcing him to use his daykill on day 1 is good both because it tests his claim, and because if he is scum with a daykill it's obv much better to get him to use it on a target of the town's choice, and ASAP.

On the other hand, if you don't think he's scum, then I'm a little fuzzy on why him using his one-shot kill day 1 is the most pro-town way to use the kill. Could you elaborate on why you think it is?

[DrippingGoofball]

Lynch all liars.

vote: zwet

Are you fucking serious?

Put the gun down and unvote. Read my posts.

[Yosarian2]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

(sigh) Ok. Here's my reaction.

Vote:Zwets

Die scum die.

Reasons for this:

1. A player claims X, then, when he realizes he's going to have to actually prove his claim, suddenly says "Hah, I was just kidding guys". Probably lying scum.

2. Last time I saw someone claim dayvig, then unclaim it when the town tried to direct his kill, the guy was actually a scum dayvig and just didn't want to be forced to kill his scumbuddy.

3. He claimed miller, then unclaimed miller. Now, if a cop investigates him and gets a guilty, he'll probably re-claim miller. Let's just lynch him now.

4. Lynch all liars. At least, when they're scum.

5. I don't even care if he claims again before he dies, it'll probably be another lie anyway. There's like a 1/10 chance he's town pulling a stupid gambit, but if he is, he would have to be a complete idiot to do so if he had a useful power role anyway.

Let's just hang him right now. And I mean, RIGHT NOW. It'd be nice to see a day 1 end before page 8 for once, games were better when that was the norm.

[DrippingGoofball]

Tadaa! I am not a miller or a dayvig. Behold my awesomeness. Discuss reactions. You're welcome.

(sigh) Ok. Here's my reaction.

Vote:Zwets

FAIL

You are not reading my posts.

[Yosarian2]

Ideally, I would like to see him dead before he gets to post again, just in case he is a scum dayvig. I am 100% serious about this.