Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[camn]

That must be the difference between you and me.

I enjoy revenge more.

[DrippingGoofball]

That must be the difference between you and me.

I enjoy revenge more.

But more importantly, TSQ may be setting up WIFOM to exonerate himself of responsibility in my inevitable NK.

In other news, I should feel more buttered up than theater popcorn. Unfortunately when the butter comes from someone that I'm seeing as obvscum, the dairy fat rolls off me as on a Teflon surface.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch

Jebus: 4 (populartajo, Xylthixlm, Yosarian2, qwints)
Thestatusquo: 2 (DrippingGoofball, camn)
DrippingGoofball: 2 (farside22, CounselWolf)
hasdgfas: 2 (Caboose, scotmany12)
camn: 1 (Jebus)
Xylthixlm: 1 (Thestatusquo)

Not Voting: 5 (stark, crywolf20084, hasdgfas, sam.samhorn, Kmd4390)

Jebus has been prodded.

Seeking a replacement for CounselWolf.

[stark]

The argument between DGB and TSQ is really silly. I have no opinion on that.

I would really like for Jebus to come back though. Maybe he used his daykill? He should probably tell us in that case.

I would also support a Caboose lynch, if Jebus does not come to fruition. I'm getting bad vibes from him. A confirmed townie > vig.

[Xylthixlm]

Jebus has been prodded.

Seeking a replacement for CounselWolf.

*Slow applause*

[Kmd4390]

So many posts in such a short amount of time. Catching up now.

[hasdgfas]

Policy lynching D1 in a large game is

NOT

a scumtell.

It is when you could be scumhunting. We had our martyr get vigged. Said martyr was wagoned. It is not like there is no information to go and look at. Lynching lurkers should not be the priority when we can actually catch scum.

There's always hascows and his rolefishing...

in my opinion, a confirmed townie is better to have than a vig. I'll drop it though as nobody seems to agree with me.

[camn]

How does the confirmed POWER ROLE townie then avoid being nightkilled, may I ask?

[hasdgfas]

How does the confirmed POWER ROLE townie then avoid being nightkilled, may I ask?

there are plenty of ways for a role to avoid getting NK'd. But even if the dayvig was NK'd, I don't find that to be a huge negative. Sure, we lose a power role, but the scum could easily have made a more crippling kill than a dayvig.

[Kmd4390]

hascow, I don't see why anyone should claim the kill on Zwet. It's pretty powerful if they don't have to post in thread to kill during the day. That's not a role that we want exposed.

TSQ, overreaction much? (about being accused of bussing farside)

I've seen that Camn likes to go after lurkers as town. The game we played together, she kept screaming, "Lurker scum team!". And she actually ended up being probably the only person in the game who was right about the scum. But yeah, she does go after lurkers as town.

I don't like Xyl not reading the full thread when replacing in. Town should always read everything to get a good read on everyone. Scum only need a feel for the game, so they don't need to read every little thing like town should.

Xyl, why did your read on sam change from scum to town?

Scot calling camn scum for going after lurkers is interesting. Maybe he doesn't know her meta though. And I can see where scum would go after lurkers. And he has been defending Jebus, so I can see this.

The DGB calls camn "unbelievably town". I don't see where you are getting this from. Sure, she doesn't look too scummy right now. But unbelievably town? Why?

Ok, guess that got answered already:

She has a list of reasons that I can appreciate, and she's pretty brazen about it. Not likely scum at all.

Makes sense.

camn, if Jebus is replaced, why does his replacement have explaining to do regarding his lurking?

Stop jumping off a perfectly good lurker wagon just because someone does something a little bit scummy.

Wait, what?

I generally nightkill people I am mad at. It feels good.

I enjoy revenge more.

If I die N1, I'll know who did it. XD

Stark, do you have a case on Caboose?

It like arguing about who sucks between the Yanks and the Red Sox.. There is simply no evidence that EITHER option is untrue.

Actually, I'd go the other way on this one. As much as I hate the Red Sox, both teams are actually GOOD TEAMS. Therefore, neither team technically "sucks".

[hasdgfas]

hascow, I don't see why anyone should claim the kill on Zwet. It's pretty powerful if they don't have to post in thread to kill during the day. That's not a role that we want exposed.

which is why I'm dropping it. Nobody seems to agree with me, and it's not my top priority.

[Yosarian2]

TSQ: I will mention that DGB has been improving lately, especally with the "focus on someone and then never change your mind no matter what" thing; she's been more flexable and less tunnel-visioned in recent games I've played wih her.

[Kmd4390]

Qwints PBPA:

Post 0 (I've always wondered why the first post is listed as 0...): Joke votes Farside
Post 1: Joke FoS's Zwet.
Post 2: Cites lynch all liars. Votes Zwet "Are you fucking serious?"
Post 3: Unvotes after Zwet's claim and Caboose's softclaim
Post 4: Votes Sam "This must be the most anti-town post I've ever seen."
Post 5: "I don't like scotmany defending jesus. Let him come defend himself."
Post 6: "He doesn't want a town power role nk'd on night 1."
Post 7: "I'm intrigued by the resistance to people voting Jebus. Let's make him post or replace out." Votes Jebus
Post 8: Says we can't get much from Zwet's wagon.

My analysis:
The joke vote/FoS don't mean much of anything. If Qwints or Farside is scum, it's a very minor point against the other, but that's about it.

His Zwet vote sticks out to me. He showed extreme confidence in his vote but wasn't nearly as vocal about it as others (Yos, TSQ). He backed off in his next post after the claim and after Caboose's softclaim. If he is scum, he knows Zwet to be telling the truth. And either he knows Caboose to be telling the truth or he knows Caboose to be a scumbuddy. Basically, he looks like scum hoping he gets townie points later for knowing when to back off.

Next post is the same kind of vote, this time on Sam. Short and sweet. Sounds confident. Doesn't push a case.

Small jab at Scot for defending Jebus. If Qwints is scum, I may look at Scot as a partner.

Post 6 states the obvious townie response to hascow's rolefishing. Searching for more townie points.

Joins the largest wagon again with Jebus. Easy target again. Confident sounding short post again. And no push again.

Next he says that not a lot will come from analyzing Zwet's wagon. Makes me think he doesn't want us looking at the wagon for some reason. Maybe he realized that the way he backed off looked more scummy than protown? Maybe his buddies were on the wagon? Whatever the reason, he seems to want us looking elsewhere. To avoid misquoting, here is exactly what he said:

I find it hard to believe that zwet's antics will provide much useful information at this point.

Vote Qwints

[camn]

I've seen that Camn likes to go after lurkers as town. The game we played together, she kept screaming, "Lurker scum team!". And she actually ended up being probably the only person in the game who was right about the scum. But yeah, she does go after lurkers as town.

God I was right about them, wasn't I.
Did we end up winning that game? I forget.

camn, if Jebus is replaced, why does his replacement have explaining to do regarding his lurking?

Its not so much explaining.. its just that I want them to have to bring a decent amount of analysis RIGHT AWAY, just to derail the wagon.
This slightly can make up for the inactivity of their predecessor.
This only comes to pass if we have a system-wide lynch all lurkers meta.

[Kmd4390]

No. Nameless voted Charter and Zazie/Stef quickhammered for the scum win. But yeah, you called Zazie/Stef/Rishi all lurkerscum and they were.

I think most would unvote if Jebus got replaced. DGB being the only exception off the top of my head. I think everyone else is just lurkervoting, not thinking Jebus is scum.

[camn]

Grrr.

The fact that they won that game rekindles my fury.
I

will

hammer.

[Caboose]

I like how stark flings a crap attack my way just as I start to tunnel vision on hascows.

[DrippingGoofball]

I like how stark flings a crap attack my way just as I start to tunnel vision on hascows.

Yes I noticed, too. My first thought was, huh? Why is he finding Caboose scummy? If stark comes up with an actual case, I'll read it.

[Caboose]

I like how stark flings a crap attack my way just as I start to tunnel vision on hascows.

Yes I noticed, too. My first thought was, huh? Why is he finding Caboose scummy? If stark comes up with an actual case, I'll read it.

Really? My first thought was quasi-chainsaw defense.
I will also read the case, if it ever is posted.

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl, why did your read on sam change from scum to town?

Because I read his posts more carefully the second time.

[Xylthixlm]

I don't like Xyl not reading the full thread when replacing in. Town should always read everything to get a good read on everyone.

Too much data hurts my gut reads.

[Xylthixlm]

At least two of the following are scum: CounselWolf, crywolf20084, hasdgfas, Jebus, stark

No reactions to this?

[hasdgfas]

And don't be silly.

If someone were CONFIRMED town, I wouldn't lynch them. I would hope they were nightkilled

... but I wouldn't lynch them, as town OR scum.

This seems pretty strange to me. Why would you hope that a

confirmed town

is nightkilled? Wouldn't you want them to stay alive and continue to be confirmed?

[camn]

Already clarified. Post 473.
Read better please.
If you can't follow the context of a discussion, don't bother trying.

A lurker, confirmed or not, does nothing to help the town.

[hasdgfas]

Already clarified. Post 473.
Read better please.
If you can't follow the context of a discussion, don't bother trying.

I'm sorry that I can't keep up with everything going on in everyone's conversations. I saw something that needed clarification, I asked for clarification on it.