726 - Mind Screw Gaiden, Game Over

[Illumina]

Vote: Nat.

URoE: Could you back up those opinions of yours?

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Nat

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

What about this idea.

Vote: G-man

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This.

Unvote; UnFoS; Vote: G-Man ; FoS: G-Man

Illumina, yeah, mostly what people suspected of you D1, but let me get things together and I'll post a semi-case against you.

[Illumina]

MSSK is most likely town.

Tar is prolly scum.

Let's lynch Nat.

K, Cool?

What leads you to these conclusions? If you've read the game, let's see some evidence. Also; did something change that you now suspect me, when you didn't mention me in the post above? Are you suggesting I'm the Gman...? It's hard to respond to your thoughts when you don't give any reasoning at all.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

MSSK is most likely town.

Tar is prolly scum.

Let's lynch Nat.

K, Cool?

What leads you to these conclusions? If you've read the game, let's see some evidence. Also; did something change that you now suspect me, when you didn't mention me in the post above? Are you suggesting I'm the Gman...? It's hard to respond to your thoughts when you don't give any reasoning at all.

MSSK seems town from meta.

Tar, I'll get back to.

Nat lynch is for the reasons that everyone else has mentioned.

Apparently, I forgot to mention you in my first post...

I haven't gotten that together yet, had to write flavor for Mini 722.

[Isacc]

GAAAH I'm dead. In 722. God, how did I die!? That's gonna drive me nuts xD. Those people should have listened to me.

Everyone: Vote for G-man. Let's see if we can lynch him.

[MafiaSSK]

Fine. I'll try the G-man approach.

Unvote, vote G-man

[veerus]

No, that's a ridiculous notion.

[Isacc]

No, that's a ridiculous notion.

Is it anti-town? If not, I don't see why there's any reason to oppose it.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

GAAAH I'm dead. In 722. God, how did I die!? That's gonna drive me nuts xD. Those people should have listened to me.

Everyone: Vote for G-man. Let's see if we can lynch him.

You post too quickly... =P

Also, Illumina, on re-read (Trying to get a post together), you look a lot better, still not necessarily town-leaning in my mind, but I'm willing to just go with a Nat (Or possibly a G-Man, although it is beginning to look stupid...) lynch with Tar hammer today...

[veerus]

No, that's a ridiculous notion.

Is it anti-town? If not, I don't see why there's any reason to oppose it.

What happens when you reach a lynch count on a player who doesn't exist? It's quite possible that it may be counted as a no-(valid)-lynch and mafia will get a free kill at night. How's that not anti-town? Are you willing to take that chance?

[MafiaSSK]

No, that's a ridiculous notion.

Is it anti-town? If not, I don't see why there's any reason to oppose it.

What happens when you reach a lynch count on a player who doesn't exist? It's quite possible that it may be counted as a no-(valid)-lynch and mafia will get a free kill at night. How's that not anti-town? Are you willing to take that chance?

It's never been tried before in a Mind Screw game.

[veerus]

Probably with good reason. At any rate, I will not support this phantom lynch.

[Isacc]

No, that's a ridiculous notion.

Is it anti-town? If not, I don't see why there's any reason to oppose it.

What happens when you reach a lynch count on a player who doesn't exist? It's quite possible that it may be counted as a no-(valid)-lynch and mafia will get a free kill at night. How's that not anti-town? Are you willing to take that chance?

While your point that the day may end is valid, I don't see it as likely that there will be a no-lynch. We

know

G-man is in the game.

[veerus]

And when you find his username, let me know.

[populartajo]

Wait, why are we lynching someone that isnt even in the game and isnt even a player that could be in the game?
Whats the case on Tar and Nat?

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Wait, why are we lynching someone that isnt even in the game and isnt even a player that could be in the game?
Whats the case on Tar and Nat?

Do you have the note, or not?

Tar is mostly confusing, along with some other scum tells that have been mentioned throughout the game.

Nat is a mod-player, we like lynching mod-players. Deal.

[Illumina]

The case against Nat can be found on page 18 (in my post 444 and earlier in Tar's big post on veerus). Basically, he's extremely dangerous if there's even a chance he could be scum with perfect knowledge of the game.

URoE: You're being too vague. Please point to specific posts so we can see what you're seeing.

I agree with tajo, not sure voting for a role is going to get us anywhere.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Tar is posting enormous posts in a way that makes them impossible to understand, in most games his posts are well thought out and organized, not to mention his weird posts at the beginning of D2 (I think).

His meta isn't following normal, he is going back on things, lots of things that make me think he is scum.

Anything else you want me to clear up? (Or more on this?)

[Illumina]

URoE: I haven't found Tar's posts that hard to understand. I also don't have the meta-knowledge you might, since I haven't played any other games with him. If he's scum, though, he's already bussed two of his buddies, including the godfather. Kinetic was killed D1, too, I think, so that's awfully bold bussing.

[veerus]

Keep in mind, there may be 2 scum groups in the game. He may just have gotten lucky. He's attacked a different person with nearly every other post. Even a blind squrrel finds the nut once in a while.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Keep in mind, there may be 2 scum groups in the game. He may just have gotten lucky. He's attacked a different person with nearly every other post. Even a blind squrrel finds the nut once in a while.

Haha... Good uh, analogy...

This is more of what I mean, I never seem to see a case constructed over several posts like I am used to with Tar, I don't know why he's doing it, either.

[MafiaSSK]

Sticking with my vote.

[Tarhalindur]

Keep in mind, there may be 2 scum groups in the game. He may just have gotten lucky. He's attacked a different person with nearly every other post. Even a blind squrrel finds the nut once in a while.

Haha... Good uh, analogy...

This is more of what I mean, I never seem to see a case constructed over several posts like I am used to with Tar, I don't know why he's doing it, either.

A combination of personal inactivity Day 1 (both Bluehost and personal V/LA), forbiddanlight self-destructing Day 2 (before I could elaborate on the case against her), Natirasha being a priority Days 1 and 3 (arguments for lynching him are based on setup analysis, not play analysis), losing Kinetic's posts at the beginning of today, and this game's general inactivity recently (leading to me getting bored with this game) are largely responsible for my lack of berserker-Tar.

I'm still not sure whether we're dealing with a second Mafia or three neutrals - leaning towards the latter, since my game design sense says that we're not going to have one scumgroup with a mod-revealed scum in it and a second scumgroup without unless the scumgroups have different sizes. (Also, Count of Monte Cristo - I'm assuming that's what the numbers were - has always revealed Town-Mafia-Neutral in my games.)

I need a reread, but last time was here I suspected either veerus or MafiaSSK were Mafia with Nat (nobody else makes sense by play) and Isacc is G-Man and anti-town neutral.

I'll hammer Nat today if necessary.

[Illumina]

I dunno, just seems like veerus is singularly interested in starting a wagon on Tar: look at his 453, 462, 470, and 495 (this one in particular). It's almost like each one gets more desperate. I still favor veerus for hammering, today.