Mini 746: Speed Dating - I've Had The Time Of My Life (Over)

[Kmd4390]

Can anybody make a convincing case on zwet?

K.

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[molestargazer]

-Backwards writing-

Translated...

It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.
- Claimed jester. Pointless...
- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
- Claimed to not understand the game.
- Posts useless one-liners.

I'll post my thoughts on this in a minute.

[Kmd4390]

It shouldn't show backwards. Looks normal on my end.

But yeah, if it's backwards to anyone else, molest has it mostly right. Except that it's in reverse order...

- Posts useless one-liners.
- Claimed to not understand the game.
- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
- Claimed jester. Pointless...
It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.

[Kmd4390]

EBWOP: Only my sig should show up backwards in 225.

[molestargazer]

How odd.

Anyway.

It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.

This is true. My gut tells me that zwet is town, but he really hasn't been acting like it.

- Claimed jester. Pointless...
- Posts useless one-liners.

I believe the Jester claim could just been one of those one-liners. But yes, either way, useless, and it isn't behaviour I'd describe as pro-town.

- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.

This boils down to either it being a mistake or it not, and I'd say the first option. However, I do see why people would disagree with me.

- Claimed to not understand the game.

It is possible to be confused by the game, and indeed it is a tricky setup. I'm still of the opinion that he's just a bit slow with this kind of thing.

- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)

Yeah.

What can I say?
The case against Zwet is fairly strong, especially for Day 1. As I said earlier, my gut feeling is that he's pro-town, but yet there's barely any evidence to back that up - and certainly nothing as solid as the evidence against him. This puts me in quite a difficult situation.
I won't be voting for him - yet - and my vote on Kmd stands for now, with a lack of anyone else who's caught my eye as looking scummy.

[zwetschenwasser]

KMD, none of the hings you're saying are scum tells.

[Kmd4390]

Do they lean more town or scum?

I think they lean more scum than town. That makes them scumtells.

[zwetschenwasser]

It's not a question of leaning. Your "case" isn't solid, you have at worst a complete WIFOM statement and at best a criticism of my playstyle. A scumtell is something solid that you can back up with behavior, actions, etc.

[Jebus]

- Posts useless one-liners.
- Claimed to not understand the game.
- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
- Claimed jester. Pointless...
It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.

1 - One liners are normally scummy, but fit his playstyle. Annoying more than scum.
2 - Possible scumtell, though very dependent.
3 - Again, like the first - annoying more than scum.
4 - Not quite admitted, could possibly be a typo (?)
5 - Scumtell

So yeah, Zwet, there are some scumtells on you.

[zwetschenwasser]

Your only "scumtell" is 5, and I've already cleared up that it was 100% a joke.

[Kmd4390]

It's not a question of leaning. Your "case" isn't solid, you have at worst a complete WIFOM statement and at best a criticism of my playstyle. A scumtell is something solid that you can back up with behavior, actions, etc.

How is it WIFOM?

What have you done that is more townie than scummy? And my case IS backed. I just don't want to quote your entire meaningless post history. Maybe 10% if that has actual content.

Your only "scumtell" is 5, and I've already cleared up that it was 100% a joke.

Hey guys, he was joking. He MUST be town.

[zwetschenwasser]

The Mrs./Miss. thing is pure WIFOM. Even you can't deny it. And why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said that it made me town that I was joking.

[Kmd4390]

The Mrs./Miss. thing is pure WIFOM. Even you can't deny it. And why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said that it made me town that I was joking.

WIFOM, maybe. Well, yeah. Ok, it's WIFOM. It comes down to whether we believe you or not. I'll give you that, it's WIFOM.

And I'm not putting any words in your mouth. You straight up said that you "cleared it up that it was 100% a joke". If that's not supposed to be a defense, it's yet another completely useless point to make.

[zwetschenwasser]

It was a joke. Your accusation is based on something that wasn't even a serious post. Of course it's a defense, but you don't have to be sarcastic about it.

[Jebus]

This is the internet. We can't tell jokes from serious. I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but it's still a scumtell.

[zwetschenwasser]

It's a crappy scumtell.

[Kmd4390]

I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but it's still a scumtell.

This.

[molestargazer]

Kmd - Do you think that zwet is a worthwhile lynch for today, and do you honestly think he is scummy enough to risk lynching our doc to do so today?

[Kmd4390]

Kmd - Do you think that zwet is a worthwhile lynch for today

Yes.

and do you honestly think he is scummy enough to risk lynching our doc to do so today?

Doc is dead tonight anyway.

[BSG]

I'm still happy with my vote. Zwet has done nothing to change my mind. And like I said, his slip made even the penguins jealous. Also include that he has the WC wrong. So I'm not going to change my mind.

There's only one argument against the Zwet lynch: EGL is the doc.
However, the one thing that I noticed was that he never claimed to be one. He was always talking about having a PhD. If he really was a doc, then I don't see why he wouldn't have claimed instead of saying that he has a PhD. He let us assume that he's a doc by saying that he has a PhD.
I would also like to note that he has posted in different games till the 22nd, while his last post here was made the 18th (in my timezone). I would say that if he was a PR, that he would try harder not to get lynched.
So hereby, my guess is that 'his claim' is false.

[Kmd4390]

EGL, do not respond to this or elaborate on it.

Check if the PhD is just for flavor or if you are really a doc.

[MonkeyMan576]

Unvote: Zwet

Don't we should be lazy and lynch the doc just because his partner is scummy.

[BSG]

Why the sudden switch Monkey? The first time it was mentioned that some players thought EGL is the doc was on the 18th. Yet, you didn't unvote when you posted the 23rd. So start explaining.

[MonkeyMan576]

I need to explain why I don't want to lynch the doctor?

Before I thought Zwet was the scummiest, I still do, but after thinking about it we can always lynch him later. I like to think about things before acting, god forbid.

[Nightfall]

MOD:

...So, could we, in theory, sit on our asses until Zwets is paired up with someone else we want to lynch, without ever having to go through the equivalent of a night stage?


(Assuming we want to lynch Zwets of course )