Mini 731 Speed Dating Smalltown: Over!

[neko2086]

Of course, Korts said in certain situations he might not go with the plan if necessary, but it would need to be justified the next day. It's all about accountability, really.

I was wrong about him not going against his own plan, but as I've said, I'm fairly comfortable with his explanation so far. Also, he's already come under quite a bit of scrutiny, which I think is appropriate, but I see no reason for me to ask him why he did what he did, as that would just be redundant.


Tanarin, Korts' plan also required the participation of everyone to give an opinion on how to use the role toward the end of the day. Sure, he didn't ask for it, which I think is unfortunate, but we all forgot about it. The voting we took at the beginning of the day was stale by the end, so I don't really blame him for considering it useless. It was mentioned a couple times that the early voting on the issue was pretty useless anyway.

[shaft.ed]

OK guys activity is dragging, can we pick up the pace a bit?

[MafiaSSK]

Vote farside

[Korts]

Vote farside

Reason?

[Tanarin]

Tanarin, Korts' plan also required the participation of everyone to give an opinion on how to use the role toward the end of the day. Sure, he didn't ask for it, which I think is unfortunate, but we all forgot about it. The voting we took at the beginning of the day was stale by the end, so I don't really blame him for considering it useless. It was mentioned a couple times that the early voting on the issue was pretty useless anyway.

True, but it wasn't forgotten by everyone. I know I asked about it at least once closer to the end of the day once the Xtoxm wagon started going, but apparently was ignored.

[Oman]

Farside is a bad direction to take this.

[Shanba]

Tanarin, Korts' plan also required the participation of everyone to give an opinion on how to use the role toward the end of the day. Sure, he didn't ask for it, which I think is unfortunate, but we all forgot about it. The voting we took at the beginning of the day was stale by the end, so I don't really blame him for considering it useless. It was mentioned a couple times that the early voting on the issue was pretty useless anyway.

This is pretty much the reason I asked the question. Bearing this logic in mind, that no one had really given any useful feedback on the plan, how could he be expected to follow through with it - similar to the defence farside had used herself! However, farside's logic works there so I'm reasonably satisfied.

neko - fair enough.

After my reread... I have a massive gut scum read on tanarin. Nothing concrete, though... GAHHAHA! This game is remarkably frustrating. The group I am currently looking for scum from is as follows: Empking, Tanarin, MafiaSSK, orangepenguin, maybe Oman and maybe hohum - the rest I'm not really considering until something massive happens to change my mind. Maaaaaybe Korts.

Vote: orangepenguin,

though I am not really satisfied with this vote. I think I'd like to be lynching tanarin, only he has the confounded doctor role.

[farside22]

Shaba why op, emp and tan. No where do you state your reason's you believe them to be scum.

At mafiassk
enough said

[Shanba]

Shaba why op, emp and tan. No where do you state your reason's you believe them to be scum.

You're right, I don't really have any case on them. My feelings about Tanarin are, as I said, gut. I mentioned in my first post that I disliked his passivity - that's a feeling that has intensified as the game has gone on. I really get th feeling he's just commenting on events as they happen, and taking stances on things because that's what he's supposed to do, not because he has any sort of strong convictions about these things.

Empking I've discussed enough, both why I think the numerous cases on him are bull and why I think he's scummy nevertheless.

OP - Is the one I feel strongest about, after Tanarin. He's very much a drifter in this game, and even when he was contributing, he was very, well, careful, shall we say. All the way through he seems trying to not step on any fingers or toes. My feelings about his blocking of empking I've made abundantly clear, though oddly enough I don't think that is actually scummy, as such.

The list is more anyone I can possibly see as scum, rather than all the people I see as out and out scummy.

[shaft.ed]

Vote Count:

Empking

(3) hohum, orangepenguin, farside22

farside22

(2) MafiaSSK

orangepenguin

(2) Shanba, neko2086

hohum

(1) Empking

Not Voting

: Oman, Korts, Tanarin

With 10 alive it's 6 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch.

[Shanba]

Come

on

!

This is like pulling teeth. Oman, Korts, Tanarin - what's your excuse for not voting? Laziness?

[Korts]

Eh.

vote: orangepenguin

For no new reason.

[farside22]

I will have some points to make Monday about a few players.

[Tanarin]

Shanba, personally I'm not convinced on the emp wagon. I got the feeling yesterday he was stupid scum, and while I am leaning heavily towards OP, I still don't feel like voting him quite yet.

[hohum]

been a busy weekend. Will get a post up by tomorrow.

Still happy with my vote BTW>

[neko2086]

Korts, how is your case on hohum coming along?

[MafiaSSK]

Right. I've counted op off as such obvious scum that I've forgotten about him. And I guess Farside desrves a fos not two votes.

unvote, vote op

[Korts]

Korts, how is your case on hohum coming along?

I've been procrastinating. It won't be happening today. I'll try making it tomorrow.

[Korts]

Vote farside

Reason?

I would still like an answer, SSK.

Also, your jump onto one of the leading wagons with little reasoning and the power of two votes (putting him at L-1 btw) is noted.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote farside

Reason?

I would still like an answer, SSK.

Also, your jump onto one of the leading wagons with little reasoning and the power of two votes (putting him at L-1 btw) is noted.

My reason was that FL seemed scummy with the argument. No real tell standing out here.

I have reasoning. I have posted it before.

[Korts]

My reason was that FL seemed scummy with the argument. No real tell standing out here.

With what argument?

[Korts]

I've gone back through your posts for the OP case you reference. These quotes are all the mentions in your posts of OP.

OP could possibly be scum. He doesn't post as much as the rest of the town does so I'm not sure.

Vagueness, uncertainty.

Now in this game, I am more active than usual(especially 539). I am also actually scumhunting in this game.

Scumhunting? You haven't even put out a single vote out yet, not even a random vote. You have only gave a finger of suspicion towards korts and empking and Tan and Neko has given you town vibes. I would hardly call it scum hunting.

unvote, vote: Mafia SSK

I thought I had voted neko a bit earlier on,apparently not.

This is a defense of yourself and there is no reference of OP being scum.

There's an exchange about pressure voting:

Interesting that you immediately post after Xtoxm voted for you. Maybe a little pressure is all you need?

Pressure does seem to work on me usually.

It actually works on me too, to be honest. I usually post more, when addressed specifically and pressed. Otherwise, I tend to take a back seat, I guess.

It works on nearly everyone. Hence why there is such a thing known as a "pressure vote".

Note how OP makes a fairly good point and then concedes how he does such things too. If the latter is true, why did you think it was a scumtell in the first place?

I was basically thinking aloud. I don't have anything to hide, so I might as well type out my thought process behind everything. I think it'd be scummy for me to hide that I do stuff like that too, somethings, so I just put it out there. It didn't occur to me in the first place. My vote stands though, since I still think MafiaSSK is scummy.

How come?

This is a vague question regarding, again, your own defense instead of anything resembling an attack on OP.

So I ask again: what is your reasoning for thinking OP is scum?

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By the way, what happened with this:

@SSK: So when will we see a neko PBPA? Or do I need to go and get it all set up?

Nearly done. This game has not been at my top priority as thus I have focused less on the Neko PBPA because I have limited access.

[MafiaSSK]

My reason was that FL seemed scummy with the argument. No real tell standing out here.

With what argument?

Most recent one with Emp.

[Korts]

Ok so please elaborate on OP as well as explain why you referenced a non-existent case.

And I don't know why I haven't done this yet.

unvote, vote: MafiaSSK

[orangepenguin]

Okay, so wow. WOW. Do not like this sudden wagon on myself obviously. I understand Korts vote. But MafiaSSK's was just vote hopping on the hottest new wagon, being the opportunist that he is. He has done little the entire game.

unvote, vote: MafiaSSK

I have to go...BUT, I will be back later..