Mini 731 Speed Dating Smalltown: Over!

[neko2086]

Oh the irony. OP you are just precious.



Seriously, skimming through your posts, I've not seen you say anything about SSK before. What happened to you thinking Empking is scum?

[orangepenguin]

Ah, sorry. I had to leave before, but forgot to check back - and now it's kind of late ...so tomorrow, I will finish up.

As for neko, I am pretty sure I said stuff about SSK yesterday. I still think Empking is scum, yes, but last time I checked, Mafia tends to have more than 1 person as scum. Day 1, I even voted for MafiaSSK. Day 2, no, he was never at the top of my list (that would be Empking..and than maybe Korts as a distant 2 -- Mafia SSK doesn't post nearly as much as the other two..so maybe that's why?). It's not like I've tossed everything I said about Empking out the window, or have just attacked Mafia SSK because of opportunistic or OMGUS reasons, because I am not. I am voting SSK because there was a wagon forming on me fast - which is fine, this is mafia, I expect people to vote for me at one point or another in the pursuit to find scum - but MafiaSSK totally jumped on because he's opportunistic. He knows he could've jumped quietly on my wagon, without any notice. Maybe you should skim better, because my vote on Mafia SSK was in bold. I doubt you even skimmed, I bet you were just saying that to make ME look bad..

FOS: neko

Let's not forget you neko. I might be scummy for jailkeeping Empking or whatever it is that people are voting ME for, but your reasoning for chooing the PGO was VERY scummy, in retrospect. I didn't think you were that scummy then - you might be remember since you "skimmed" my posts and seem to think that I can't form any "new" (my mafiassk suspicions aren't that new) opinions, but I don't like how I am being discredited. Ugh. Plus, nobody seems to agree with me that Emp is scum. I might as well move on for now and go after OTHER scummy people. Just because I moved my vote doesn't mean I am any less suspicious of Empking.

"Oh the irony. OP you are just precious." I agree...except for different reasons than your own. Maybe you want me gone because I am "just precious".

neko, your vote on me doesn't make any sense. Plus, it's all built around your own speculation that has no merit. I've explained myself plenty. You're just happy that the town is no longer focused on you and now you've found the new wagon of the moment.

[Empking]

OP: Thaty was quick, voting just after Korts without any vreal new information since you lasdt posted.

[farside22]

OP you haven't been playing this game. So I'm going to ask for your reason and quotes on your vote and reasoning other then jumping on a SSK BW.
Korts I really want that hohum case. 3 people now have stated hohum is scum with no reason and I'm a bit tired of it.
Korts your case on mafia is noted.

[neko2086]

OP,

If you haven't forgotten about empking, that certainly hasn't been clear in your last few posts. I

did

skim through your posts, singling you out even, and I really had a hard time finding much about SSK. I really don't think it's too much to ask for a refresher on why you think he's scum so that we know you're not just "hopping on the hottest new wagon," to use your words.

You've accused SSK of not scumhunting and you've voted him. That's about all I can find. The rest of your posts mostly deal with empking, but then you switched back to ssk without really explaining why you think ssk is scummier than emp. Since you think I'm just making things up (which is speculation isn't it? Is that the same kind of speculation you're accusing me of?), I'd be glad if you could prove me wrong.

[Shanba]

OP's response to neko's post was incredibly OMGUSsy. His response to SSK was not nearly as bad, tbh.

[shaft.ed]

"Please don't make me without my sister," Geraldine requested with no emotion in her plea.

Vote Count:

orangepenguin

(4) Shanba, neko2086, MafiaSSK

Empking

(2) hohum, farside22

MafiaSSK

(2) orangepenguin, Korts

hohum

(1) Empking

Not Voting

: Oman, Tanarin

With 10 alive it's 6 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch.

[orangepenguin]

*sigh* Pretty much everyone, with the exception of Oman, who seems to be the only smart person this game, seem to think I am scum. I am good as dead.

Right now, I think the scum team are neko/Emkping/MafiaSSK. I would be fine with lynching any of the three. Korts has been dropped, I am afraid.

@Empking: No new information? Uh, yes there was. How about the fast wagon on me that MafiaSSK quickly sprung upon, which was the basis for my vote?

It's not the fact that MafiaSSK is voting ME, but it is the way he quickly joined a wagon (which just happened to be my own) with very poor reasoning, putting the person at L-2 and everything, mixed in with his entire performance this game. If you just look at his posts in isolation, you'll see how little he has contributed to this game. He's active lurking. Those are scumtells.

It's hilarious seeing MafiaSSK's scumbuddies being quick to defend him though. Very telling.

@farside: I HAVE been playing the game. I was just playing it poorly day 1. I would like to think that I have improved day 2, personally, but there seems to be a wagon randomly on myself. I have gave my reasons.

@Shanba: You would think that, considering you're voting me too. I don't really see the point of a one liner - I wasn't being omgusy towards neko, but whatever I say won't convince you anyways, so it's just a wifom mess.

I would REALLY be interested in why I am scummy and a case on myself. I think I have addressed almost everything against me, and most of the "case" against me is just mere speculation.

[farside22]

Well OP you haven't really given a good reason why you chose to JK, empking.
Also I haven't seen much as far as reason's for your votes.
Plus day 1 when you voted emp as you did really reminded of that game where you were scum and emp and I were town. Things like that tend to stick with people.

[orangepenguin]

Well OP you haven't really given a good reason why you chose to JK, empking.
Also I haven't seen much as far as reason's for your votes.
Plus day 1 when you voted emp as you did really reminded of that game where you were scum and emp and I were town. Things like that tend to stick with people.

I gave my reasons for choosing to JK. They were really good reasons, and I admit that I should've thought it through a bit more.

That game was terrible from my POV. It would probably be on the bottom of my list of games, on the enjoyment scale. Lucky for you guys that game, I was scum. I've played many other games with you though - Open 81 (we were scumbuddies), Lovers Mafia (I replaced in as a Werewolf..I think you were town?), Reality mafia (both town), Mish Mash Mafia (both town), Trendy and Suversive (the game you referred to, which I hardly even played, compared to this one), PR Mafia (ongoing), Unclean (I was doc, you were town), and this one. I've probably played with you more than any other person..except maybe armlx..Heh. So you know my weaknesses more than anybody. What are you trying to say? I am scum and you two are town? Then why are you voting him and not me? I don't understand. The game really didn't stick with me though. It wasn't really a significant part of my mafia playing career. I tend to play better in the ones I enjoy. You don't know until you start playing them though. I am really starting to like this game though.

[farside22]

It's hard to explain OP. I know about the games your talking about. What's funny is I read you as town for Unclean when others questioned you. Reality mafia was very forgetable. I think its just the way you reacted to Emp knowing his play style that just bugged me. I wish I could explain it better.
I'm not voting for you at this time because I still have lots to think about.

[Korts]

The case on MafiaSSK is not just the vote to L-1 on OP--that is a big point, but there is also the talk about a non-existent case when he had barely accused OP ever.

So please get a lynch together people.

[hohum]

I really think Emp is town and Farside is scum pushing for an easy wagon right now.

No an easy wagon is voting for you as most feel you are not playing and typically should be voted out day 1 for being that type of player.

He's not the only person in this game that should have been voted out D1. I'm still surprised Empking is being allowed to get away with coasting for this long as well.

[farside22]

I do find it entertaining when I see MafiaSSK saying I'm looking for an easy wagon in empking but after that he votes OP on little to nothing

[Oman]

Just posting to say I haven't been reading the last 24hrs or so and need to read this whole OP thing.

[Empking]

Re-reading, Korts does seem to have a very good point with post 896.

Whose FL? Farside?

[neko2086]

I am good as dead.

Appeals to emotion aren't helpful.

It's hilarious seeing MafiaSSK's scumbuddies being quick to defend him though. Very telling.

Wild guess... am I included in the assumed scumbuddy group? Can you post instances of me defending SSK?

I wasn't being omgusy towards neko

Really? Cuz you kinda just threw me into your scumlist after I started making a case against you, deciding that things I did were scummy in retrospect.

there is also the talk about a non-existent case when he had barely accused OP ever.

And then there's you with a non-existent case on hohum. So it'd be nice if we could get that.

SSK, the pbpa on me would be nice, as well as reasoning for voting OP. Since he's obviously scum to you, surely you've got something tangible to say about it.

[farside22]

Kort where is that hohum case. I'm going to keep bringing it up.

[Shanba]

*sigh* Pretty much everyone, with the exception of Oman, who seems to be the only smart person this game, seem to think I am scum. I am good as dead.

Quit whingeing. I'm serious, here. If people think you're mafia, it might be (a) because of you are or (b) because of your god awful useless play thus far. What, exactly, have you

done?

And you have the gall to complain about SSK?

@Shanba: You would think that, considering you're voting me too. I don't really see the point of a one liner - I wasn't being omgusy towards neko, but whatever I say won't convince you anyways, so it's just a wifom mess.

My one liner communicated plenty of relevant information in a timely and concise way. Now, as to why I dislike your reaction to neko, and not your reaction to SSK:

SSK's vote came out of nowhere, and is legitimately scummy. You are perfectly justified in calling him out, and from a psychological perspective it makes sense that you would notice stuff that happens to you (despite the fact that you have paid so little attention to other stuff this game). Neko, however, is justified in questioning you about how one action can change your mind so drastically about the guy you have been calling scum for over a day - was your case on empking really that weak, or was ssk's action really that scummy? I don't think either is true.

However, what you said to him was "I've suddenly decided that a whole lot of stuff that you did which I didn't originally find scummy is scummy after all, noy you're attacking me." I'm exaggerating a little, but can you see my point? Whether you are town or scum you are overreacting and panicking (which I'm not certain is a good indicator of alignment - depends on meta).

I would REALLY be interested in why I am scummy and a case on myself. I think I have addressed almost everything against me, and most of the "case" against me is just mere speculation.

I don't really have a case on you, just a whole load of gut feelings. Right now any read I might legitimately have on you is swamped by my own emotions (read: I'm pissed off) so

unvote

until I can digest the new stuff that is happening in a slightly less biased way.

KORTS: HOHUM CASE. NOW!

[Tanarin]

The case on MafiaSSK is not just the vote to L-1 on OP--that is a big point, but there is also the talk about a non-existent case when he had barely accused OP ever.

So please get a lynch together people.

Why does his comment strike me as him not caring who gets lynched, just as long as someone gets lynched?

[MafiaSSK]

I do find it entertaining when I see MafiaSSK saying I'm looking for an easy wagon in empking but after that he votes OP on little to nothing

Tan and I did some talking Day 1 about OP. Sorry I forgot I hadn't posted anything in-thread about it

[hohum]

I do find it entertaining when I see MafiaSSK saying I'm looking for an easy wagon in empking but after that he votes OP on little to nothing

Tan and I did some talking Day 1 about OP. Sorry I forgot I hadn't posted anything in-thread about it

I don't understand what you're saying here. You were daytalking with someone about an ongoing game, outside of the game thread?

[neko2086]

Uh... they were masons yesterday.


SSK, mind sharing your D1 thoughts on OP?

[orangepenguin]

I do find it entertaining when I see MafiaSSK saying I'm looking for an easy wagon in empking but after that he votes OP on little to nothing

Tan and I did some talking Day 1 about OP. Sorry I forgot I hadn't posted anything in-thread about it

Why didn't you? If you guys thought I was soooooooo scummy Day 1, you could've brought it up then. I don't get why neither of you mentioned it till now.

The only reason I am probably a major target is because I am just a mason today. Which I get, the mason is not really important, especially when neither of the masons are using it (!!!!) making it useless. There are definitely more important roles. That's for sure.

Is me being mason a major factor for anybody?

[Oman]

Unvote Vote Neko

I want to revisit this.