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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:58 am

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farside22 wrote:Why would you role block a cop? He should give up something if he has info or he most likely will be killed by scum. I don't like the claim. Something feels wrong but I'm going to see if he comes up with anything as proff first. Why do you want him to not get results?
Someone missed the point...

What I saying is that I hope hascows isn't scum and he'll just claim to be "roleblocked" at the beginning of each day in order to put off having to prove his role.

Also, are you seriously asking why a mafia roleblocker would role block a cop?
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:05 am

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...and stark is going to disappear again.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:10 am

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hasdgfas wrote:hey zwet, got any flavor backing for being a martyr/bodyguard?
I assume you were looking for a name claim with this post?
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:26 am

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So, can someone explain to me why hasdgfas' claim makes him town? Because I personally don't see it. Rolecops are very scum-fishy.[/img][/hr]
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:30 am

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Caboose wrote:
farside22 wrote:Why would you role block a cop? He should give up something if he has info or he most likely will be killed by scum. I don't like the claim. Something feels wrong but I'm going to see if he comes up with anything as proff first. Why do you want him to not get results?
Someone missed the point...

What I saying is that I hope hascows isn't scum and he'll just claim to be "roleblocked" at the beginning of each day in order to put off having to prove his role.

Also, are you seriously asking why a mafia roleblocker would role block a cop?
Your asking him to be blocked are you telling the scum to block him for a reason? I don't get why? I was a role cop and town once. It was quiet helpful even if the scum (cough another game with DGB) tried to make me look scummy for the role so don't mind be for giving him a shot.
Hascow can confirm town with that role. Did you miss that? I think you believe he is going to lie and with that you are giving him an out. Seriously we dont' know (execpt scum) if there is a scum role blocker but I would hope if we have a town role blocker they won't block cow.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:33 am

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sam.samhorn wrote:So, can someone explain to me why hasdgfas' claim makes him town? Because I personally don't see it. Rolecops are very scum-fishy.[/img][/hr]
You don't lynch a claimed info role day 1. Ever.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:36 am

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sam.samhorn wrote:So, can someone explain to me why hasdgfas' claim makes him town? Because I personally don't see it. Rolecops are very scum-fishy.[/img][/hr]
Name cops are different from role cops. If he can confirm it, it seems like a role that would be useless for scum.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:13 am

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Quick reminder:
OhGodMyLife wrote: 7. A lynch suffers the requirement of a simple majority. If there is no majority at deadline, there will be no lynch.

Which means everyone needs to get in here and vote someone, now; we don't have much time left, and need a real majority.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:13 am

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Caboose wrote:While flavor meta does suck, your role having to do with the Spanish Inquisition doesn't help convince me you're town.
I see your point. But the relationship between my own role name, and actual role, is quite a stretch.
I am in the same boat. I read the wiki article on my person, and it is a pretty giant stretch from my role to person. So I'm a little bit hesitant on Hascow's ability.


Has, can you investigate me tonight? We can test it that way.

Can I have a brief explanation for the cay wagon?
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:14 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote: Not Voting: 3 (stark, Korejora, Rogueben)
The three of you need to vote, ASAP.
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:16 am

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I'm here all night if we need an extra vote before deadline.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:17 am

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Vote: Crywolf
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:17 am

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Stark:
crywolf20084 wrote:Strangely i have to agree with Caboose here. The Spanish Inquisitor could be either town or scum. I may change my mind and vote cow.
This post looks scummy to me, for one. Voting someone on flavor is bad, and saying she "may change her mind" and vote cow because the flavor "could be either town or scum" just seems very wishy-washy and oppertunistic; if the flavor could be either town or scum, and he just claimed an info role, why would that make her want to vote him?
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:25 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:Stark:
crywolf20084 wrote:Strangely i have to agree with Caboose here. The Spanish Inquisitor could be either town or scum. I may change my mind and vote cow.
This post looks scummy to me, for one. Voting someone on flavor is bad, and saying she "may change her mind" and vote cow because the flavor "could be either town or scum" just seems very wishy-washy and oppertunistic; if the flavor could be either town or scum, and he just claimed an info role, why would that make her want to vote him?
Exactly this. Now I undestand why I agree with Yosarian2 is famous.
I suggest all has voters switch inmediately to crywolf. WE CAN DO IT.
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:46 am

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stark wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Caboose wrote:While flavor meta does suck, your role having to do with the Spanish Inquisition doesn't help convince me you're town.
I see your point. But the relationship between my own role name, and actual role, is quite a stretch.
I am in the same boat. I read the wiki article on my person, and it is a pretty giant stretch from my role to person. So I'm a little bit hesitant on Hascow's ability.
If you follow the logic, you should be believe hascow's claim more, not less. You want us short of a power role, scum?
stark wrote:Has, can you investigate me tonight? We can test it that way.
Has will pick whoever he feels is worthy, scum.
stark wrote:Can I have a brief explanation for the cay wagon?
You're looking for an excuse to wagon, scum?
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:51 am

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Hey look, a minute of free time!

Crywolf is scummy.
Camn is scummy.
Qwints's inactivity after his wagon derailed is increasingl scummy.
Xyl is goddamn unreadable.

Unvote, Vote: Crywolf20084
(If she's confirmable, then I'd guess that scum are trying lynch-control instead of IIoA - that would be a MAJOR point against Xyl, btw.)
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:52 am

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*good posting*
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:53 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
stark wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Caboose wrote:While flavor meta does suck, your role having to do with the Spanish Inquisition doesn't help convince me you're town.
I see your point. But the relationship between my own role name, and actual role, is quite a stretch.
I am in the same boat. I read the wiki article on my person, and it is a pretty giant stretch from my role to person. So I'm a little bit hesitant on Hascow's ability.
If you follow the logic, you should be believe hascow's claim more, not less. You want us short of a power role, scum?
stark wrote:Has, can you investigate me tonight? We can test it that way.
Has will pick whoever he feels is worthy, scum.
stark wrote:Can I have a brief explanation for the cay wagon?
You're looking for an excuse to wagon, scum?
1. You've missed the point again, as usual. The distance between history and role is not my concern in disbelieving Hascow's claim. it is my concern because of the distance that this information is not useful, and is not a likely role.

2. That's silly, because if has is scum, he can "investigate" one of his partners, without having that ability. This way, if the town knows who he's targetting, that situation is avoided.

3. Yes, because you said I wasn't voting anyone, so now I am. Thanks.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:55 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:Hey look, a minute of free time!

Crywolf is scummy.
Camn is scummy.
Qwints's inactivity after his wagon derailed is increasingl scummy.
Xyl is goddamn unreadable.

Unvote, Vote: Crywolf20084
(If she's confirmable, then I'd guess that scum are trying lynch-control instead of IIoA - that would be a MAJOR point against Xyl, btw.)
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:56 am

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Vote Count:
9 to lynch

crywolf20084: 5 (populartajo, Caboose, Yosarian2, stark, Tarhalindur)
qwints: 4 (Kmd4390, hasdgfas, camn, crywolf20084)
hasdgfas: 3 (scotmany12, sam.samhorn, qwints)
stark: 3 (DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, farside22)

Not Voting: 2 (Korejora, Rogueben)

DEADLINE: Tuesday March 3rd, 10:00 PM EST
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:58 am

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Note that I'm still here and willing to vote Crywolf before deadline if needed.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:01 am

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So, 29 hours until deadline. Hope we hear a response from crywolf about her wagon soon, especally since she's currently the leading wagon.
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:03 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:So, 29 hours until deadline. Hope we hear a response from crywolf about her wagon soon, especally since she's currently the leading wagon.
Wow and I was sitting here thinking it was 5 hours until deadline. My bad.

So anyway. Crywolf. I could agree with lynching her, but I'd prefer Qwints. She's probably second best of the 4 major wagons. I'd even put Xyl as scummier than Crywolf though. So basically, consider Crywolf my number 3 choice.
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:31 am

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Yeah, either crywolf or quints is fine. I'm curious about why you suspect Xyl.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:38 am

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farside22 wrote:Your asking him to be blocked are you telling the scum to block him for a reason?
No, I didn't ask for cow to be blocked.
farside wrote:Hascow can confirm town with that role.
No he can't. He can only find scum lying about their name.
farside wrote:I think you believe he is going to lie and with that you are giving him an out.
:?:
I'm not the first one to think of this. The first newbie game I played, scum claimed cop D2 and then got "roleblocked" for the rest of the game.
farside wrote:Seriously we dont' know (execpt scum) if there is a scum role blocker
It's a really common role. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume the existence of a scum roleblocker.
farside wrote:but I would hope if we have a town role blocker they won't block cow.
Niether do I.

Clarification to my worry about the cow claim:


What I DON'T want to happen is this.

Dawn of D2

Somebody: So, cow, what's your result.
Cow: I got roleblocked.
Dawn of D3

Somebody: Cow, any result?
Cow: Nope, roleblocked again.
Dawn of D4

Somebody: Should I bother asking?
Cow: Nope
...and so on

My point is that while lynching a claimed info role D1 is just bad play, continued scummy behavior from cow shouldn't make him unlynchable in the future just on the basis of his claim.

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