Mini 708 - Cheat Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Axelrod]

It is unbelievable to me that GW has completely ignored multiple requests to post his test answers, and you guys are letting him get away with it.

1.B
2.B
3.D
4.C
5.C
6.D
7.B
8.B
9.D
10. C
11. A
12.D
13.C
14.B
15.C

My answers are the same as MR but I have 14 as "B" I do not recall at this moment why I have 14 as B, but I'm fairly sure it's something someone said previously.

I'll No Lynch, but I want GW to post what he submitted last Night and the Night before.

[sirdanilot]

Oh yes, sorry about that.

GW post your answers then you may hammer as far as I'm concerned.

I had 14 B too, probably from you. But now I decided to use MRs answer. But I'm not sure yet, I can always change back. What answer should I use.

MR how did you get 14D?

[Master Ruck]

I don't know, actually. I've looked back through the topic and my inbox and I can't find anything that may have made me change. All I can think of is maybe I put it in wrong as this was the list I sent to iLord. I'll put it back to B tonight and see what happens.

[sirdanilot]

I'll change it back too.

[GhostWriter]

From:

1. B
2. B
3. D
4. C
5. A
6. D
7. A
8. B
9. D
11. C
12. B
13. C
14. B
15. C

To:

1. B
2. B
3. D
4. C
5. A
6. D
7. A
8. B
9. D
12. B
13. C
14. B
15. C

Notice something? That's right. No profound change. Know why? Because with the small amount of players we have, it doesn't matter too much to me which of you my ability lands one, odds are that I'll still see something important, like how I apparently saw (after having the mod clarify this) that Sirdan did not perform a kill last night. Unlike the rest of you, apparently, I don't need to earn another ability, since mine isn't one-shot. I didn't worry too much about altering my test. I had something useful enough, and didn't feel like looking through the game to find ways of fixing it up, and I stopped cheating after I first got and used my ability, and all of them had already been added in.

Now

Vote: No Lynch

.

[iLord]

To Come! (Day 5)

Flavor to come, maybe.

Vote Count the First (Day 5)

No Lynch (3): Master Ruck, Sirdanilot, Ghostwriter

With 4 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

No lynch has been made.

It is now Twilight 5. You should have 24 hours to update your cheat sheets, but just turn them in as soon as possible.

[iLord]

To Come! (Twilight 5)

Flavor to come, maybe.

No lynch has been made.

It is now Night 5. Get in your actions as soon as possible.

[iLord]

The World is Quiet Here (Day 6)

Flavor to come, maybe.

No one died.

It is not Day 6. With 4 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

[Master Ruck]

Well, this is interesting. Let's try this again. What did everyone do last night and what were they told happened when they tried it?

[sirdanilot]

k. got something interesting

Axelrod please fully claim what you did to whom first thank you

[Axelrod]

All right. I had some debate, but ultimately I decided to Doc protect Master Ruck last Night.

Ghostwriter?

[GhostWriter]

Alright, using those answers given yesterday, I apparently took apart my little doodad, and fixed it using parts from the band room. So it works just the way I want it to. I watched Master Ruck, and Axel did target him, and Master Ruck himself targeted me.

[Master Ruck]

Now, I

think

I have it, but let's hear sird next as I wanna confirm it.

[sirdanilot]

claim:

Axel targeted Master Ruck AND Ghostwriter.

So we have
Axel: targets master ruck (3 claims), targets ghostwriter (one claim)
Axel claims doctor.
Nobody died.

Hypothesis: GW tried to kill Master Ruck, Axel protected him, GW tries to cover it up by claiming he tracked AND watched him.

Question: Axel why did you lie. What did you do with GhostWriter? Are you scum? GW why are you not scum?

This time, I think we

can

solve the puzzle, but our mod gave us all a plethora of powers which makes things pretty damn confusing.

[GhostWriter]

Why am I not scum? Well, had I been scum, I'd have used the pm that Ruck sent me about who was going to target who, and why I should target him. Had I been scum, my report would not have said that he had targeted me, it would have said that he had targeted you, like he told me he would.

[iLord]

I'll be gone for the next two days. If you guy reach a consensus, enjoy the extra long twilight

[Master Ruck]

I

did

aim for sird last night, but I was redirected. I wasn't told who to, only that whoever I watched Axel targetted them. I'm gonna guess I ended up watching ghost. What I want to know is why Axel decided to use his doc power in the end. He told me that he was thinking of not using it as a 3-man end would make things easier to solve and that if there was no death, it would be one among whatever number of possibilities as to why a kill didn't go through. If he had all this logic, then why did he go ahead and use it?

[sirdanilot]

interesting

[Axelrod]

SirD, I did not lie, and I have never lied this entire game. You asked me what I did "first" which is what I answered. I've learned that sometimes not spilling everything you have all at once is the best course of action in this game. Right now, for example, it tells me that you probably did, in fact, "Track" me, and therefore, were probably not out trying to kill someone else.

I've gained one other power which is completely irrelevant at this stage of the game, but I targeted GW with it anyway. It's a "peeking" power which let's me look at someone else's test even if they have alerts set up. Whoopie. I can do that plus another power in the same night though.

What I want to know is why Axel decided to use his doc power in the end. He told me that he was thinking of not using it as a 3-man end would make things easier to solve and that if there was no death, it would be one among whatever number of possibilities as to why a kill didn't go through. If he had all this logic, then why did he go ahead and use it?

I was thinking of not using it. And I was thinking of using it on SirD. And I was thinking a lot of other things besides.

Ultimately

I came to the conclusion that (1) assuming GW was scum, which was my assumption, then (2) YOU were his only logical target. And frankly, if I could stop a kill and have 3 townies living today, that would be significantly better than getting into a 3-man endgame where one mis-vote = lose, and SirD already expressing "suspicions" about me.

I'm now completely satisfied in my own mind that it's GW. The "I fixed my device and now I saw both who targeted MR and who he targeted" sounds like complete bunk. There's just no other possibility.

[Master Ruck]

Well, this is a problem. Jahudo had the same power a while ago, yet he is now dead so he can't confirm whether he would be allowed to use that and another power in the same night.

Mod: Can a player use more than one power in a single night?

[GhostWriter]

How is there no other possibility? How the heck would I know that Master Ruck deviated from the target he said he was aiming for if I was too busy trying to kill him, as opposed to seeing what he was doing last night, exactly as I said I did?

[sirdanilot]

Hypothesis: GW tried to kill Master Ruck, Axel protected him, GW tries to cover it up by claiming he tracked AND watched him.

Prove to me that this can't be true

[GhostWriter]

Because I knew that Ruck's target wasn't who he A) said he would target and B) did target. I've said this before. I would have said that he had targeted you, Sirdan, not me, because that's who he told me he would target. He even said so here in the game that he attempted to target you, and got redirected. I wouldn't know that unless *gasp* I tracked and watched him. Well, at least one, but the point is that I did both. I've explained this. Prove to me this didn't happen, and I'll check it when I get back late tonight.

[Master Ruck]

Ghost, there is another possible explanation you haven't mentioned. You could also know that if you were the one who redirected me and, seeing as you would know that, you could make an accurate fake reading and look correct the following day.

[iLord]

I'm back. No votes yet.

Only 1 normal ability (including cheating) may be done each night.