Mini 746: Speed Dating - I've Had The Time Of My Life (Over)

[Nightfall]

Yes KMD has contributed a lot, but I'm not so sure he's exchange with Caboose in
post 333 is that pro town looking. I don't see how it would have hurt to ask EGL to
confirm his role with the mod, especially since you/KMD already made it clear that
you didn't think he was what he was claiming to be.

Because by doing so, I'd be basically claiming. I didn't want to do that.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something here, which could be a real possibility, but didn't you say it was just for flavour in your situation and NOT your actual role? Couldn't you have said that certain flavour in your role pm lead you to believe that you were a role you werent and it would be a good idea for EGL to inguire about the same thing? You wouldn't have had to point out that your info was also PHD related.

[Kmd4390]

Actually, it's not PHD related.

But anyway. If I had said, "My role isn't what I thought it was. It's just flavor. EGL should check his.", it would show more about my own role than I was willing to give up.

[MonkeyMan576]

This game is way too easy. Caboose and Monkey are the scum so can we wait with lynching them until they are paired together?

I am not scum. You should be looking at the people who were in on the double townie lynch yesterday.

[Caboose]

This game is way too easy. Caboose and Monkey are the scum so can we wait with lynching them until they are paired together?

Usually when someone makes a post like this, I type up a really angry post that I end up not posting anyway. So, I'll try to be really nice this time.

Dear BSG and penguins

I am writing you with regards to your lovely two-sentence

complete bullsh*t attack

post. However, I find it very difficult to defend myself against such

crap attacks

vague statements as you have made and it would be much appreciated if you could give some reasoning so that we may clear up some misunderstanding.

I speculate

chainsaw defense

some comraderie between you and Jebus given that your drastic change of heart comes after I post a case for Jebus being married. But if you post something that we can all read, maybe we will understand your reasoning behind your suspicions.

Also, it would be much appreciated if you would stop acting

arrogant

so confident. While I like aggressive play, there is quite a thin line between aggressiveness and

trying to fling accusations around in the form of nonsense

unsubstantiated suspicions.

Sincerely,

Caboose

[Jebus]

Thought - because Zwet and EGL left without a married person in the group, haven't they succeeded in their win condition? Or am I reading it wrong?


By the way, I'm a priest. Does this help quell your already weak case?

[Caboose]

No, it doesn't.
It doesn't explain a thing that I addressed in my case.

Read it.

[The Count]

Alas, the Caboose is the scum! I stand beside you, BSG, 100%. I understand completely.

vote: Caboose

Read it.

[MonkeyMan576]

It's really weird that two people are claiming to "know" who is scum without offering any explanation or reasoning. Townies don't know for sure who is scum unless they are cops, and I know BSG is not a cop.

[roffman]

Reasons for voting KMD:

He hammered Zwet early on in day 1. I found this action scummy in general, but even more so in a game where a single vote can kill 2 people.

Ok. I have reason to believe EGL probably is NOT a doc. I'm not claiming doc here, but based on my role, I don't think he is the doc. I'm not going to say more than that though.

This post just annoys me. He is trying to get a potential scum lynched, however, he won't post any actual reasons for it. He has admitted his role is just for flavor, yet he denied to tell us this yesterday when the knowledge might have actually stopped us lynching a potential doc.

Exactly? You are saying that town loses by leaving with scum. I do NOT see that in my Role PM at all.

This was a big one. Unless you have a different win condition to nearly everyone else, your PM should be pretty explicit to what happens if you leave with scum. I also know the mod said that analysing win conditions is pointless, but I still find it interesting.

[MonkeyMan576]

My PM says nothing about leaving with scum and my win condition is fairly simple. Take of that what you will.

[molestargazer]

I am not scum. You should be looking at the people who were in on the double townie lynch yesterday.

Are you suggesting that people who weren't on the wagon should be discounted? Sounds like it, and that's not on.

This game is way too easy. Caboose and Monkey are the scum so can we wait with lynching them until they are paired together?

Yeah, sure, I'll follow your lead without any evidence or suspcisions posted whatsoever!

(If you needed to read this to realise that was sarcasm... *sigh*)

chainsaw defense

Could you please explain what this is? Can't find it on the wiki.

So, I'll try to cross out what I really mean to make it seem a bit nicer.

Fixed.

Thought - because Zwet and EGL left without a married person in the group, haven't they succeeded in their win condition? Or am I reading it wrong?

They will win only if all the married people leave the game now, I guess. Might be wrong (As I have been before).

By the way, I'm a priest. Does this help quell your already weak case?

I hope you're not trying to do what EGL did. Chances are priest is just flavour, and if it isn't, I don't see why you would claim like that now.

Alas, the Caboose is the scum! I stand beside you, BSG, 100%. I understand completely.

vote: Caboose

Is there something in yours and the countess' role PM that says you should never explain anything or something?

This post just annoys me. He is trying to get a potential scum lynched, however, he won't post any actual reasons for it. He has admitted his role is just for flavor, yet he denied to tell us this yesterday when the knowledge might have actually stopped us lynching a potential doc.

If he had come out with the information, then I think we would have assumed EGL's was flavour - but still lynched zwet for being scummy anyway. So... yes and no.

I also know the mod said that analysing win conditions is pointless, but I still find it interesting

The mod says it's pointless, which means it is, which means it shouldn't form part of a case against someone. So I'm going to discount that. Same to what Monkey said.

[MonkeyMan576]

I am not scum. You should be looking at the people who were in on the double townie lynch yesterday.

Are you suggesting that people who weren't on the wagon should be discounted? Sounds like it, and that's not on.

I'm saying that people on the wagon should be considered first, and that people off the wagon should be given the benefit of the doubt, especially when accusers give no reasoning for their accusations.

[Kmd4390]

He hammered Zwet early on in day 1. I found this action scummy in general, but even more so in a game where a single vote can kill 2 people.

Dropping the hammer is NOT a scumtell.

This post just annoys me. He is trying to get a potential scum lynched, however, he won't post any actual reasons for it. He has admitted his role is just for flavor, yet he denied to tell us this yesterday when the knowledge might have actually stopped us lynching a potential doc.

Zwet was the one who I thought was scum, not EGL. How would the fact that my role was just flavor STOP the lynch on "a potential doc". If anything, it would speed up the lynch on a less likely doc.

This was a big one. Unless you have a different win condition to nearly everyone else, your PM should be pretty explicit to what happens if you leave with scum. I also know the mod said that analysing win conditions is pointless, but I still find it interesting.

Yeah, mine says I win when the scum are gone, not that I win if I leave without scum. Not sure what else to say about that. It says what it says.

Could you please explain what this is? Can't find it on the wiki.

A attacks B. C attacks A. B and C are scumbuddies. Basically, OMGUS on behalf of others.

[roffman]

@Kmd: Dropping a hammer is not in and of itself, always a scum tell. Dropping the hammer early, in game where there is still extreme doubt about the mechanics, and you knowingly kill 2 people at once, is.

[Kmd4390]

@Kmd: Dropping a hammer is not in and of itself, always a scum tell. Dropping the hammer early, in game where there is still extreme doubt about the mechanics, and you knowingly kill 2 people at once, is.

Fair enough.

I personally feel that I explained it well enough. I was pretty sure Zwet was scum. And even if EGL was a doc, he'd have been dead that night anyway. I can't stop you from feeling differently though.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

[MonkeyMan576]

Correction: Zwet, not KMD.

[Kmd4390]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about

KMD

(

Zwet?

) being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Are townies never wrong?

[Caboose]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Don't like the ad hom here.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about

KMD

(

Zwet?

) being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Are townies never wrong?

Sure, but your voting record is a scum tell as much as anything, and as far as I am concerned the burdon of proof is on you at this point.

[Kmd4390]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Don't like the ad hom here.

What ad hom? And even if it is, what does it matter?

Sure, but your voting record is a scum tell as much as anything, and as far as I am concerned the burdon of proof is on you at this point.

So again, the case on me is voting for a townie, right?

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Don't like the ad hom here.

What ad hom? And even if it is, what does it matter?

Sure, but your voting record is a scum tell as much as anything, and as far as I am concerned the burdon of proof is on you at this point.

So again, the case on me is voting for a townie, right?

Voting for two townies, and from what i understand, you hammered.

[Kmd4390]

Vote: KMD

You were obviously wrong about KMD being scum, so why should we believe you about you being town?

Don't like the ad hom here.

What ad hom? And even if it is, what does it matter?

Sure, but your voting record is a scum tell as much as anything, and as far as I am concerned the burdon of proof is on you at this point.

So again, the case on me is voting for a townie, right?

Voting for two townies, and from what i understand, you hammered.

Ok, voting two townies on a single lynch is the case on me then.

And Caboose actually hammered.

[MonkeyMan576]

FOS: Caboose

then

[Kmd4390]

FOS: Caboose

then

For dropping a hammer?