Mini 738: The Town of Merrin - Game Over

[mykonian]

You don't, Cause I'm cop.

isn't this part of your answer, GIEFF?

[mykonian]

I hope the mods choice to get his old avatar back means that things are going to be bloody

(bump)

[SensFan]

Request deadline extension, since I replaced in.

[Zilla]

oy vey, no resposne from Birthday.

unvote: Mykonian
Vote: Beyond Birthday

Despite Mykonian being a better target, IMO, it seems nobody else thinks so, and it's time to move on.

[kloud1516]

Request deadline extension, since I replaced in.

By request of extension, deadline will now be next Sunday, March 15.

[GIEFF]

Awesome, those 5 extra days should help a lot. Birthday should not claim until the other 5 players have had a chance to CC Panzer's cop claim.

[SensFan]

For the purposes of keeping me (and everyone who needs to read everything I write) sane, I'll be making a post after every 10 pages, captivating my feelings at the time.

[SensFan]

Making this post after 5 pages, because there's too much stuff to go until page 10.

GIEFF
*54 is absolutely terrible
*61 contains a ridiculously massive slip. 'Dourscum'?
*83 is absolutely amazing. Would it be possible to share that script? Keep doing these, please.
*92 is back to being bad, attacking Panzer on terrible logic
*96 wouldn't be nearly as bad if it weren't for the fact Dour just voted Panzer
*105 is the worst post yet.
*123 might be worse than 105

mykoinian
*55 is terrible. Why the fuck are you random-voting?
*66 is bad
*78 is bad; way too overdefensive, start hunting Scum
*93, and you're still not contributing at all...

dourgrim
*Looks to be perfectly fine, not sure what GIEFF's problem is.
*95 is pretty bad. If GIEFF's defense of Panzer seems forced or unrealistic, you vote GIEFF, not Panzer.

Birthday
*71 is a perfect textbook example of active lurking
*72 is massive buddying to myko

subgenius
*I really like post 74
*FWIW, I personally use 'Mafia' to mean Mafia, and 'Scum' to mean Mafia/SK/etc...

Goatrevolt
*I like 77
*122 seems to be arguing against what you defended him for earlier. Not good.

springlullaby
*102 is bad, why are you arguing theory when you haven't contributed much?

Panzer
*120 is a good explanation.

***

Panzer very obviously thought mykonian was making a joke post, but let a slip in that post. What the fuck is so hard to understand?

I really liked Dour's pressure on GIEFF early, and it seemed sincere. Then it stopped all of a sudden, and he started agreeing with GIEFF and quickly moved on to Panzer. Why the sudden flip?

GIEFF is by far the scummiest player at this point. He's throwing sand in every which way, and looking to see where it will stick. When him and Dour started working together, they seem to have been able to make some stick on Panzer, and its complete bullshit.

If your name doesn't appear on the list of posts, no posts of yours seemed to be worth mentioning. That is a very bad thing.

[SensFan]

Pages 5-10. And I'm taking a break now.

dourgrim
*128 seems like it could be insincere and forced
*147 is brilliant, it should have included a vote for GIEFF, though...
*178 is iffy. If you think myko's defense of Panzer is bull, it doesn't matter if Panzer flips Town or Scum.
*217 is very good

springlullaby
*129 is good
*211 is bad. If you think someone is scummy, and they aren't at L-1, you vote them.

Panzer
*130 throws out everything good I've said about him
*135 is useless, didn'tyou say you were going to try and be useful?
*161 isn't good, you don't respond to the slip at all
*225 is both bad and good. Calling someone a Townie is a slip.

GIEFF
*140 is awful. Will you stop saying he lied when he didn't?
*144 is also awful. Are you even stopping to consider you were wrong about Panzer having lied?
*160 is actually good, especially the slip from Panzer
*183 is also good
*193 is good, would be better is you voted myko as opposed to FoS
*218 and here we go again...Panzer didn't lie, myko did massively buddy up.
*226 is bad. Take your blinders off and read the thread.
*233 is bad. Take your blinders off and read the thread. "If I were rolefishing, I would be hopping from wagon to wagon until I found one that stuck, using others reasoning to make it look as though I am contributing. I am not rolefishing, I am scumhunting. And you are scum." You did EXACTLY that...

mykonian
*145 is good
*174 is bad. What's wrong with a lynch on page 7?
*179 is awful. Start playing, stop making stupid WIFOM games where you ask people to make you look anti-Town
*191/192 is awful. 'Scum aren't that scummy' is stupid, useless, and bullshit.
*194 is WRONG. ABSOLUTELY WRONG. STOP IT. START PLAYING AND FINDING SCUM.
*247 is also wrong. Why the fuck do you keep assuming everything is random?

Goatrevolt
*149 looks like you're trying to please people

Birthday
*150 was bad. Very bad.
*153 isn't any better. Stop getting in dumb theory discussions, start playing.
*197 is god-awful. You can't possible not have any opinions on what's happening.
*208 is slightly better, but you still aren't playing

Ting
*214 is good

Subgenius
*238 is very good

***

Panzer slipped when he called someone a 'Townie'. That's no semantics, that's a slip.

GIEFF is being as scummy as anyone can be. He even looked really good for a while, when he was willing to look elsewhere than Panzer.

mykonian needs to stop getting in theory discussions, especially when he's always wrong.

[GIEFF]

Panzer really did lie though, SensFan. He's admitted it. He never thought mykonian's vote was random. This is clear based on a close reading of this post.

[Beyond_Birthday]

I like Sensfan's analysis. It is the first sane analysis of my play for most of the game. I am not cop, but I don't buy Panzer's claim at all. Still, my line of thought prevents me from voting for Panzer yet since it is bad play. Thinking...thinking...
Need time to consider the claim. Anyway, I don't think I voted Panzer of put him in my top 3, but I surely would now.

BB's latest post also rubs me the wrong way; just because panzer was accumulating the solid votes, he acts like he has nothing to worry about.

I've never had too much to worry about nor have I really been to concerned about worrying about anything. <--convoluted on purpose. Basically, I don't have anything to worry about, so you statement seems a little skewed...

Still want Zilla lynched because I still see her actions as scummy.

Gieff still look scummy. I would also agree to his lynch.

[springlullaby]

Unvote

Not cop, not totally up to speed as of now but will probably be waiting for BB.
Happy to observe Sens right now.

[mykonian]

Panzer very obviously thought mykonian was making a joke post, but let a slip in that post. What the fuck is so hard to understand

ask Panzer, he doesn't understand himself.

[qwints]

unvote

Panzer now seems credible enough to warrant leaving him alive.

[SensFan]

Pages 11-15

Goat
*257 is very good
*285 is great
*290 is brilliant
*303 is gold, something more people need to realize
*345 is great

Zilla
*259 is absolute shit, you should read the thread before people tell you who you should see as scummy
*261 is trying to justify the shit logic
*273 is the worst yet from her
*288 is even worse. Seriously, you can't justify the fact that you are either lazy or Scum.
*289 calls everyone scummy for not bowing down to her command, terrible
*292 is complete fluff. Have you even read the fucking thread yet?
*297 is even worse. She finally starts playing...and contradicts everything she's said so far.
*324 goes back to saying evewryone should have bowed down to her
*331 is fairly useless, but at least its not bad
*339, I swear if you so much as mention the fact you expect to not read games you replace into ONE MORE TIME...
*344...Just...
*353 is actually not bad. I disagree completely, but it actually looks like it might be legit
*357 is openly going out of her way to make a case on everyone...really?...Need I say more?

Mykonian
*262 shows he isn't as bad at game theory as it appeared
*352 is really good, surprisingly
*355 is also good

Panzer
*265 is really good
*296 is good, though I disagree with the Unvoting of Zilla
*298 is great, back on track
*347 sums up my thoughts

Subgenius
*268 is repetitive, though good
*269 is good
*342 is perfect, and right on track
*374 is the best post I've seen in a long time

Militant
*281 is nice
*308 is good

Birthday
*282 is rather nice, though by then I'm sure BirthdayScum would have known to jump on Zilla so *shrug*
*287 is a bunch of bullshit, with some ribbons to make it look pretty
*340 is more words that mean nothing. And if someone is attacking you with weak logic, you SHOULD tear it to bits

Dourgrim
*286 is rather bad, why bother posting that you like your vote if you admit to only skimming?

GIEFF
*305 is complete garbage. Get over yourself, get over something that happened in the random stage.
*319 is more of the same shit
*327 is...surprise!...more of the same shit. I'm seeing a pattern here...
*330 is...yeah, I think you can figure it out...
*337 is more shit
*343, can you PLEASE take off the 'Panzer is Scum' glasses?
*348 is garbage.
*363 is still posted through the PanzerScum glasses.
*366 gets into dumb theory. If Scum says "I'm voting Y for XXX", he is in fact voting Y for XXX, that's not a fucking lie
*369, get those fucking glasses off. NOW.

***

Zilla, I hope you realize that I expect an absolute full summary of everything that ever happened before I replaced to have been posted by you. I mean, when someone replaces in, its your belief they should get a full and detailed summary, right?

GIEFF, you are tunneling beyond fucking belief. Open your eyes, RTFT.

Goat has been great in these pages.

Myko shows he's not a terrible player, which makes his earlier posts suspect...

[GIEFF]

Post 1079:

Wow, a person about to be lynched claimed cop at deadline. I am shocked, shocked to find PR claiming going on here.

My vote stays.

Post 1087:

Unvote: Vote:Qwints

YOU DO NOT LYNCH A CLAIMED COP REGARDLESS OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

Post 1089:

Do you know how I know you aren't really the cop, Panzer?

You don't, Cause I'm cop.

Post 1102:

Notice how the three people that aren't buying my claim and wanting to lynch a non counterclaimed cop are the 3 closest to the top of my scum list.

Also, Goat, sure but if they claim cop scum has to be pretty good a pulling shit out of their ass. Also, cop is one of the most popular power roles so their is a HUGE risks in claiming it. And on the whole I had too check my role, that clearly was a joke that I was using to illustrate that GIEFF had a good point. It wasn't me saying I seriously had to check my role.

Post 1121:

Dude get you votes of me..if there is a counter claim then you all can string me up, but deadline is coming in rwo days and if I get deadline lynched that'll be BS. Anyone with a vote on me right now is incredibly scummy and is trying to lynch the cop.

Post 1138:

unvote

Panzer now seems credible enough to warrant leaving him alive.

Which of Panzer's posts in between your first statement and your last convinced you he was credible? The part where he called everybody voting for him scummy? Or the part where he called you scummy, specifically?

unvote

vote qwints

[GIEFF]

Sens, why are you analyzing posts made by the player you replaced?

[SensFan]

Sens, why are you analyzing posts made by the player you replaced?

I honestly don't know/remember who I replaced.

[GIEFF]

Wouldn't it help you to know one of the players' alignments you are analyzing?

[SensFan]

Wouldn't it help you to know one of the players' alignments you are analyzing?

Doesn't it help the Town more for me to completely unbiasedly analyze the play of my predecessor?

[GIEFF]

Yes, if you truly are unbaised. But a lot of the things you've said seem a lot more glowing than they should be.


You haven't said a single negative thing about the player you replaced, yet you have at least once about every single other player you've mentioned. I don't think that is a coincidence, and for you to now claim that you don't know who you are replacing is suspect. Do you know your role?

[SensFan]

Yes, if you truly are unbaised. But a lot of the things you've said seem a lot more glowing than they should be.


You haven't said a single negative thing about the player you replaced, yet you have at least once about every single other player you've mentioned. I don't think that is a coincidence, and for you to now claim that you don't know who you are replacing is suspect. Do you know your role?

I know my role, yes. I either forgot or never knew who I replaced.

And I don't think there's anyone I've complimented all that much without having anything bad to say about them...

[kloud1516]

Bump

[GIEFF]

So are militant and ting the only two people left who haven't posted since the cop claim 3 days ago?

[Beyond_Birthday]

I still like Sensfan's analysis. No change since I am waiting to be attacked enough to claim. Also, I don't like Qwints' last post, not for his UNVOTE, but because he just seems to let attacks role off him without even acknowledging them. (who, huh, what? Did the guy who just ignored Goat's attack actually saying that? Oh, wait, never mind. He's just saying Qwints isn't acknowledging attacks against him. [/end making sure point of this post is known.])