Mini 746: Speed Dating - I've Had The Time Of My Life (Over)

[Caboose]

No, but not voting for townies doesn't clear you.

There's a difference between something being a "towntell" and being "cleared". If you want to think I'm scum that's up to you, but for myself I'm going to suggest we look heavily at voting records and suggest to others to do the same.

Not being on town wagons is not even a towntell.
In fact, it's a very very very very mild scumtell.

Stop trying to declare yourself town because you didn't vote for zwet. It's kind of scummy.

I didn't declare myself town, I was defending myself against people who were calling me out without any reasoning. And explain to me how refusing to vote off townies is a scumtell.

They usually don't want to have anything to do with a townie lynch.

[MonkeyMan576]

No, but not voting for townies doesn't clear you.

There's a difference between something being a "towntell" and being "cleared". If you want to think I'm scum that's up to you, but for myself I'm going to suggest we look heavily at voting records and suggest to others to do the same.

Not being on town wagons is not even a towntell.
In fact, it's a very very very very mild scumtell.

Stop trying to declare yourself town because you didn't vote for zwet. It's kind of scummy.

I didn't declare myself town, I was defending myself against people who were calling me out without any reasoning. And explain to me how refusing to vote off townies is a scumtell.

They usually don't want to have anything to do with a townie lynch.

Well, that's obviously not true if the scum vote is needed to get the townie lynched.

[Nightfall]

KMD I can agree with your read on the count in 392,
but want to ask when you ranked Jebus in that post did
you take into account his back peddling after the lynch?
(Which happened before the lynched players' roles were revealed).

[Kmd4390]

KMD I can agree with your read on the count in 392,
but want to ask when you ranked Jebus in that post did
you take into account his back peddling after the lynch?
(Which happened before the lynched players' roles were revealed).

No, I didn't. Do you think Jebus is scum?

[Nightfall]

I was just curious as you were the one who originally called him on it.

Unvoting Zwet was a waste of my time.

vote: zwet

So Zwet, you've just chosen to be lynched in the name of laziness?

What a waste of a lynch, imo.

Why the backpedaling AFTER the lynch has already happened?

To answer your question, early on I found Jebus scummy, and (as I believe I pointed out earlier) he started to act more town like as day one went on. But, I do think his back peddling was kind of scummy. I found it a little off that you didn't address it in your list.

[The Count]

unvote, vote: Monkeyman

Painfully obvious scum. His last few comments, like "I agree with all you points, and his partner, BSG, could be scum too, so a double scum lynch would be great."

-Bandwagoning
-Miming what KMD said
-Offering no other reasonings, except:

- "BSG could be scum too"
- "Double scum lynch
- "Great"

Translation: "I am scum. I know they both are town. A double mislynch would be great. KMD looks like a town, so I am going to mime him! I wasn't on the town wagon so I MUST be town. LOOK! LOOK! I am town! I am town!"

I would do a better analysis, but I don't really want to waste the time, considering you can all see for yourselfs what his post lacks - substance.

[MonkeyMan576]

unvote, vote: Monkeyman

Painfully obvious scum. His last few comments, like "I agree with all you points, and his partner, BSG, could be scum too, so a double scum lynch would be great."

-Bandwagoning
-Miming what KMD said
-Offering no other reasonings, except:

- "BSG could be scum too"
- "Double scum lynch
- "Great"

Translation: "I am scum. I know they both are town. A double mislynch would be great. KMD looks like a town, so I am going to mime him! I wasn't on the town wagon so I MUST be town. LOOK! LOOK! I am town! I am town!"

I would do a better analysis, but I don't really want to waste the time, considering you can all see for yourselfs what his post lacks - substance.

You don't want to "waste time" doing a better analysis, and you accuse me of lacking substance. If you would take the time to read my whole record rather than nitpicking you'd see your vote is a mistake. Agreeing with someone is not a scumtell.

[Kmd4390]

Monkey, what made you switch from voting me to agreeing with me?

Nightfall, TBH, I forgot about all of that. Jebus looked townie with what I looked at, which was the vote itself. The backpedaling was pretty scummy though, and like I said, the lynch wagon was a place to start, not the only thing we should look at.

The Count, do you have a defense?

[Max]

I'm just going to say that it appears discussion is lagging at the moment, (I know I need to replace Roffman), so, I will impose measurements if discussion doesn't pick up

[MonkeyMan576]

Monkey, what made you switch from voting me to agreeing with me?

Nightfall, TBH, I forgot about all of that. Jebus looked townie with what I looked at, which was the vote itself. The backpedaling was pretty scummy though, and like I said, the lynch wagon was a place to start, not the only thing we should look at.

The Count, do you have a defense?

I thought your analysis made sense.

[The Count]

unvote, vote: Monkeyman

Painfully obvious scum. His last few comments, like "I agree with all you points, and his partner, BSG, could be scum too, so a double scum lynch would be great."

-Bandwagoning
-Miming what KMD said
-Offering no other reasonings, except:

- "BSG could be scum too"
- "Double scum lynch
- "Great"

Translation: "I am scum. I know they both are town. A double mislynch would be great. KMD looks like a town, so I am going to mime him! I wasn't on the town wagon so I MUST be town. LOOK! LOOK! I am town! I am town!"

I would do a better analysis, but I don't really want to waste the time, considering you can all see for yourselfs what his post lacks - substance.

You don't want to "waste time" doing a better analysis, and you accuse me of lacking substance. If you would take the time to read my whole record rather than nitpicking you'd see your vote is a mistake. Agreeing with someone is not a scumtell.

I think analysis' in general are a waste of time, at least when I do them.

I have read all your posts...or "record". I am pretty sure it wasn't mistake. You

are

Monkeyman, right? Agreeing with someone isn't a scum tell, but sheeping is. You're a sheep. You offered nothing new. You were jumping on a bandwagon (or what could've emerged as one) after a pretty pro-town looking player started it.

[MonkeyMan576]

unvote, vote: Monkeyman

Painfully obvious scum. His last few comments, like "I agree with all you points, and his partner, BSG, could be scum too, so a double scum lynch would be great."

-Bandwagoning
-Miming what KMD said
-Offering no other reasonings, except:

- "BSG could be scum too"
- "Double scum lynch
- "Great"

Translation: "I am scum. I know they both are town. A double mislynch would be great. KMD looks like a town, so I am going to mime him! I wasn't on the town wagon so I MUST be town. LOOK! LOOK! I am town! I am town!"

I would do a better analysis, but I don't really want to waste the time, considering you can all see for yourselfs what his post lacks - substance.

You don't want to "waste time" doing a better analysis, and you accuse me of lacking substance. If you would take the time to read my whole record rather than nitpicking you'd see your vote is a mistake. Agreeing with someone is not a scumtell.

I think analysis' in general are a waste of time, at least when I do them.

I have read all your posts...or "record". I am pretty sure it wasn't mistake. You

are

Monkeyman, right? Agreeing with someone isn't a scum tell, but sheeping is. You're a sheep. You offered nothing new. You were jumping on a bandwagon (or what could've emerged as one) after a pretty pro-town looking player started it.

Well, that's a lie. I've advocated lookiing at voting records when a lot of people have spoken out against it. I unvoted on the day 1 lynch when most other people voted for it. So I think you could say the last thing I am is a sheep.

[molestargazer]

I don't think he's saying you're a sheep in trying to advocate looking at vote counts - but you are when followed Kmd in voting for him.

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't think he's saying you're a sheep in trying to advocate looking at vote counts - but you are when followed Kmd in voting for him.

Yeah well, that doesn't make me scum, unless you think the person I'm voting with is scum.

[Max]

I think I've also got to get one for BSG

[Caboose]

Well, that's obviously not true if the scum vote is needed to get the townie lynched.

How do you know this?

Again, not being on a townwagon is mostly a nulltell. Stop acting like it's a towntell.

[Kmd4390]

I don't think he's saying you're a sheep in trying to advocate looking at vote counts - but you are when followed Kmd in voting for him.

Yeah well, that doesn't make me scum, unless you think the person I'm voting with is scum.

So if a townie makes a case, only town will place the second vote?

Crap logic.

[MonkeyMan576]

Well, that's obviously not true if the scum vote is needed to get the townie lynched.

How do you know this?

Again, not being on a townwagon is mostly a nulltell. Stop acting like it's a towntell.

Well, I disagree. Like I said before. I advocate looking at voting records.

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't think he's saying you're a sheep in trying to advocate looking at vote counts - but you are when followed Kmd in voting for him.

Yeah well, that doesn't make me scum, unless you think the person I'm voting with is scum.

So if a townie makes a case, only town will place the second vote?

Crap logic.

If a townie makes a pro-town case, then scum are less likely to promote it. Scum aren't going to want to see their side lynched. Good logic.

[molestargazer]

Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%

against scum

? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.

Since we don't know, we can't be sure the alignment of those who jump on.

[MonkeyMan576]

Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%

against scum

? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.

Since we don't know, we can't be sure the alignment of those who jump on.

No, we don't know for sure, but when building a case for someone or against someone, surely you would want to avoid lynchking those who are consistantly voting town and lynch those who are consistantly voting scum, is my thinking.

[Caboose]

Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%

against scum

? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.

Since we don't know, we can't be sure the alignment of those who jump on.

No, we don't know for sure, but when building a case for someone or against someone, surely you would want to avoid lynchking those who are consistantly voting town and lynch those who are consistantly voting scum, is my thinking.

Apparently, you've never heard of bussing.

[MonkeyMan576]

Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%

against scum

? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.

Since we don't know, we can't be sure the alignment of those who jump on.

No, we don't know for sure, but when building a case for someone or against someone, surely you would want to avoid lynchking those who are consistantly voting town and lynch those who are consistantly voting scum, is my thinking.

Apparently, you've never heard of bussing.

I certainly have heard of it, but you don't want to base a strategy on something that's the exception rather than the rule. More often than not, townies vote town and scum vote scum.

[Caboose]

Monkey - surely that only applies if the case made is actually 100%

against scum

? It could be an amazing case, but scum could still jump on it, promote its wisdom, and lynch a townie.

Since we don't know, we can't be sure the alignment of those who jump on.

No, we don't know for sure, but when building a case for someone or against someone, surely you would want to avoid lynchking those who are consistantly voting town and lynch those who are consistantly voting scum, is my thinking.

Apparently, you've never heard of bussing.

I certainly have heard of it, but you don't want to base a strategy on something that's the exception rather than the rule. More often than not, townies vote town and scum vote scum.

Well, then. Shouldn't we be looking at people

not

on the zwet wagon by your logic?

[Kmd4390]

See my sig.

Will catch up next week.