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Which is more demeaning?

Being told you're beautiful
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Being told you're downright unnatractive
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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:21 pm

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populartajo wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:Alpacas can't be racist. There animals!
Actually my dog is a racist.
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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:i cant?
no you can but i was wondering why you did
i have no idea.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:22 pm

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populartajo wrote:Dahill, you like black women?
i am attracted to women of all types of races, nice try trolling me though. I DON'T appreciate trolls.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:23 pm

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No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:23 pm

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<<dies laughing

preference =/= racism

I like big butts and I can not lie.

Does liking Coke make me an anti-pepsi, ha ha lawl.

Everybody is a little racist or steriotypical, just don't go crazy KKK about it. Them peeps are trash.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:24 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:Dahill, you like black women?
i am attracted to women of all types of races, nice try trolling me though. I DON'T appreciate trolls.
Fail. You always have preferences.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:24 pm

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populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:25 pm

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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:Dahill, you like black women?
i am attracted to women of all types of races, nice try trolling me though. I DON'T appreciate trolls.
Fail. You always have preferences.
i prefer women over men. why do you feel the need to categorize me as liking one particular race?
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:25 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
Prob but I cant remember it exactly.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:26 pm

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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:27 pm

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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
Prob but I cant remember it exactly.
You are jew, right?
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:27 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:Dahill, you like black women?
i am attracted to women of all types of races, nice try trolling me though. I DON'T appreciate trolls.
Fail. You always have preferences.
i prefer women over men. why do you feel the need to categorize me as liking one particular race?
YOU ALWAYS HAVE PREFERENCES IN WOMEN, YOU LAZY TROLL.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:28 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
Prob but I cant remember it exactly.
You are jew, right?
Mods, please ban this troll
Hahaha, wondered how much it would take.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:28 pm

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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:Dahill, you like black women?
i am attracted to women of all types of races, nice try trolling me though. I DON'T appreciate trolls.
Fail. You always have preferences.
i prefer women over men. why do you feel the need to categorize me as liking one particular race?
YOU ALWAYS HAVE PREFERENCES IN WOMEN, YOU LAZY TROLL.
yeah everyone's "always" straight
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:28 pm

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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
Prob but I cant remember it exactly.
You are jew, right?
Mods, please ban this troll
Hahaha, wondered how much it would take.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:30 pm

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populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
populartajo wrote:No, really. Now that I think about it, I have no idea why I asked that. Could be due to the fact that unconsciously I would be more careful if you were black but I am not sure.
well you obviously had a reason when asking it
Prob but I cant remember it exactly.
You are jew, right?
Mods, please ban this troll
Hahaha, wondered how much it would take.
GG.
Way to admit to being a troll
Mr. Flay, mith, whoever: PLEASE talk to or reprimand populartajo for using my religion as a basis to insult me.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:52 am

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I hate to engage in this thread again, but I think dahill is completely justified in his reaction here. populartajo, you don't have to be "a racist" in order to do or say racist things. And "I prefer white women" is a racist thing to say. If society were perfect, maybe not, but it certainly isn't yet. There is still a lot of disparity in treatment of people based on gender, race, sexuality. Look at films, and the media as a whole, for evidence. How many films have a black woman in the lead? How many have a white guy in the lead? Does this match the actual proportion of these people in society? If not, why not? How about the way the black women who are biggest celebrities, and who you name as attractive (Beyonce, Angelina Jolie, Rihanna) have much lighter skin than average. Society treats light skin as more attractive (and therefore acceptable), and this is reinforced by the media, which in turn reinforces society.

Same for gender. How many female characters can you count in films who are not romantically linked to any other characters? And how many male characters? Stories, and people, assume that the "default" person is male, and a character will only be female if it is necessary. Don't stories and adventures happen to women too?

And sexuality. Do I need to keep asking these questions?

For what it's worth, I find shaft.ed's talking about his asian fetish disconcerting as well, since asian women have a history of being objectified and sexualized in western media.

And I don't exactly think that you are bad people for doing it, but I do think you don't realise. By stating your preferences, (and I don't know what you are honestly trying to achieve by doing so), you are reinforcing these injustices in society.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:57 am

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On a more light-hearted note, I did find it funny that shaft.ed's asian-o-meter had a zero point for "non asian" and then
came out the other side
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:58 am

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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:28 am

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Cybele wrote:Yeah, but are sexual preferences in the same field as racism or sexism? I mean, If I prefer hazel eyes, or long brown hair, or men does that mean I'm prejudiced to people who don't fit those? I think the whims of your libido are generally so irrational that to say that someone who is more turned on by white people is not racist, just as some one who is either homosexual or heterosexual is not sexist.
This is pretty much what I wanted to say.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:39 am

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also, those of us that don't sleep with alpacas are guilty of species bias.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:42 am

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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:47 am

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Korts wrote:
Cybele wrote:Yeah, but are sexual preferences in the same field as racism or sexism? I mean, If I prefer hazel eyes, or long brown hair, or men does that mean I'm prejudiced to people who don't fit those? I think the whims of your libido are generally so irrational that to say that someone who is more turned on by white people is not racist, just as some one who is either homosexual or heterosexual is not sexist.
This is pretty much what I wanted to say.
Yes. I don't see how personal romantic/sexual preferences have anything to do with society as a whole. Person A might not be sexually attracted to Person B, but that doesn't mean he or she will treat Person B any worse than anyone else. Fenchurch, I'm also sure there's a specific category of people you are not attracted to. Doesn't have to be deliniated by race, gender, ethnicity, nationality etc, but there are probably things that turn you off.

Edit: I was also unaware that Angelina Jolie was black.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:31 am

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Cybele wrote:I think the whims of your libido are generally so irrational
Eh, I disagree. I think sexual preferences are, like all of our thoughts and opinions, tempered by what is considered fashionable, popular, normal, unusual, in society.
Cybele wrote:some one who is either homosexual or heterosexual is not sexist.
I wasn't saying they were. Apologies if I'm misreading you.
Mirth wrote:I was also unaware that Angelina Jolie was black.
Angelina Jolie is mixed race, I guess I included her as she was chosen to play a black character in "Wanted." I'm pretty sure this reinforces the pale-skinned-"black"-women-are-preferred-in-mainstream media rule.
Mirth wrote:I'm also sure there's a specific category of people you are not attracted to.
If there is I am unaware of it, and if I was I would not go around touting "I'm prefer X social group" because I can't see what positive effect that achieves. Especially if the group is question is the dominant one in current society. Lastly, if I was, I would question what societal stereotypes and assumptions it was based on, as I try to do for most things.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:45 am

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Fenchurch wrote:If there is I am unaware of it, and if I was I would not go around touting "I'm prefer X social group" because I can't see what positive effect that achieves
Why does there need to be a positive effect? Stating your own opinion/preference is mostly for its own sake and not others' anyway, and since conversation started moving in that direction I didn't find pop's comment out of place or inappropriate at all.
Fenchurch wrote:Lastly, if I was, I would question what societal stereotypes and assumptions it was based on, as I try to do for most things.
Why? Also, why do you assume that these preferences are based on societal stereotypes rather than your personal sense of aesthetics?
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:51 am

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Fenchurch wrote:
Mirth wrote:I was also unaware that Angelina Jolie was black.
Angelina Jolie is mixed race, I guess I included her as she was chosen to play a black character in "Wanted." I'm pretty sure this reinforces the pale-skinned-"black"-women-are-preferred-in-mainstream media rule.
Um, since when? Last I checked, both Jon Voight and Marcheline Bertrand were white.
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Mirth wrote:I'm also sure there's a specific category of people you are not attracted to.
If there is I am unaware of it, and if I was I would not go around touting "I'm prefer X social group" because I can't see what positive effect that achieves. Especially if the group is question is the dominant one in current society. Lastly, if I was, I would question what societal stereotypes and assumptions it was based on, as I try to do for most things.
You are missing my point. It doesn't have to be a social group, it could be something as simple as "I prefer taller people" or "I tend to prefer X hair color" or "I'm not interested in people who engage in X activity." The point is there is always some kind of exclusionary characteristic. It doesn't need to be racial or socially enforced.

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