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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:55 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Main headline: stark is rolefishing scum that refuses to fake hunt for buddies and should die.

In other news, scotmany is town.
Strongly inclined to concur.

Bigger problem: Given that our revealed Mafiosos had the role names Prince John and Vlad the Impaler (aka obvscum names) and poptajo seems to be hinting that he is a role name cop... we're ruling out the possibility that Slicey (claimed Torquemada, aka "obvscum name") is mafia role name cop why, exactly?

I need to check the D1 hasdgfas wagon again.
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:04 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote:
Vote Count:
9 to lynch

hasdgfas: 7 (
scotmany12
, sam.samhorn,
qwints
,
farside22
,
populartajo
,
Caboose
,
Tarhalindur
)
qwints: 5 (
Kmd4390
,
Yosarian2
, hasdgfas,
camn
,
crywolf20084
)
stark: 2 (
DrippingGoofball
,
Xylthixlm
)

Not Voting: 3 (stark, Korejora, Rogueben)

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Hmm. Possibilities:

- haswagon was town-driven and qwints wagon was moderately scum-driven (has probably scum)
- haswagon was moderately scum-driven and qwints-wagon was largely town-driven (requires probably sam.samhorn + 1 falsecleared {scotmany, farside} be scum)
- BOTH wagons were town-driven and scum were explicitly staying on the sidelines (really like this option, since both Stark and Rogueben weren't voting).

Conclusions: has wagon looks town-driven to me, but I'm not sure if scum were on a competing wagon or avoiding both. The former says has (Slicey) more likely scum, the latter says both were town wagons.

Likely scenarios:
- Stark + Korejora scum
- Stark + sam.samhorn scum
- has + ??? scum(?)

DGB, your thoughts?
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:05 am

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EBWOP: Olive is players I'm inclined to believe are town given rolebased or claim.
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:08 am

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Also, camn should be olive instead of green. Silly me.
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:08 am

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There's got to be a scumbag on has' wagon, regardless of has' alignment.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:17 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:There's got to be a scumbag on has' wagon, regardless of has' alignment.
That logic says sam.samhorn is almost certainly scum.

Let's make sure he doesn't survive the day. shall we? We've got the lynch, and unless I'm much mistaken our friend Robin Hood has one last arrow left in his quiver.

That pretty much says that Stark and sam.samhorn will be dead before the end of the day.

Now, the question is: how much were are scum avoiding wagons D1? I'm inclined to say heavily (again, reminding me of Mafia 87 - two D1 wagons, both town*), but I'd like a second opinion.

* - Hmm. Should go analyze those now. Might be informative.
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:17 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:There's got to be a scumbag on has' wagon, regardless of has' alignment.
Sam or scot is your best bet.
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:30 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:Now, the question is: how much were are scum avoiding wagons D1?
They did not avoid wagoning in the least, they were like circus clowns cramming in a Volkswagen on the zwet wagon. Kmd remarked that the zwet wagon was scum-driven. I believe he was setting up WIFOM so that we'd think the contrary if he flipped scum. I bet the zwet wagon had at least 3 scum on it.
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:34 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Tarhalindur wrote:Now, the question is: how much were are scum avoiding wagons D1?
They did not avoid wagoning in the least, they were like circus clowns cramming in a Volkswagen on the zwet wagon. Kmd remarked that the zwet wagon was scum-driven. I believe he was setting up WIFOM so that we'd think the contrary if he flipped scum. I bet the zwet wagon had at least 3 scum on it.
Zwet wagon had Kmd, TSQ, and sam.samhorn on it, so I think you're right about zwet being scum-driven.

Problem is the end of day wagons (crywolf, hasdgfas, qwints). If there were two scum not voting during has/qwints wagons, Stark can be scum. Otherwise, farside22 pretty much has to be scum given minimum-1-scum-per-wagon logic.

(Mafia 87 and 78 both say 2 scum on largest D1 town wagon, btw.)
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:36 am

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zwetschenwasser: 6 (hasdgfas,
Thestatusquo(SCUM)
,
Yosarian2(TOWN)
, scotmany12, sam.samhorn,
Kmd4390(SCUM)
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:01 am

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==================
KMD Basically confirmed

hasdgfas/Slicey - Torquemada rolecop
Xyl-TOWN

Kmd


ROGUE Close to confirmed town

DGB-TOWN
Xyl-TOWN

hasdgfas/Slicey - Torquemada rolecop
==================
KMD Town Read:

DGB -TOWN

Rogue


ROGUE Townish

Yos2 -TOWN
camn -TOWN
Tarhalindur -TOWN

==================
KMD Slightly Scummy to Neutral (scummiest on bottom):

sam
Tar -TOWN

farside
Stark
Scot
Kore

ROGUE Neutral

Scotmany12
Poptartajo -TOWN

Kmd4390

==================
KMD Scummiest:

Yosarian2- TOWN

camn -TOWN

populartajo -TOWN


ROGUE Scummyish

Korejora
Stark
sam.samhorn
farside22
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:05 am

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Why did hascow ask for replacement? He continues to be super-active in all his other games.

I STRONGLY SUSPECT SCUMBUDDY IN-FIGHTING.
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:20 am

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crywolf20084
: 9 (
populartajo
,
Caboose, Yosarian2
,
stark
,
Tarhalindur
,
farside22
,
camn, DrippingGoofball, qwints
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:21 am

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hasdgfas: 7 (scotmany12, sam.samhorn,
qwints
, farside22,
populartajo, Caboose, Tarhalindur
)

Not enough known-alignment players on this wagon to be conclusive.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:23 am

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stark
: 6 (
Caboose, Tarhalindur, DrippingGoofball, populartajo, camn, Xylthixlm
)
qwints: 4 (
Kmd4390
,
osarian2, crywolf20084
, hasdgfas)
hasdgfas: 4 (scotmany12, sam.samhorn,
qwints
, farside22)

Not Voting: 3 (stark, Korejora,
Rogueben
)
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:50 am

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I am not a role cop, Tar.
I thought scotmany was 3rd party but his role name is not necessarily indicating that.
Maybe we should mass claim or maybe we should name claim. Im still pondering it.
Also I wouldnt analyze wagons that have already 1 proven scum in it. The odds of finding scum in that wagons are lower.
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:57 am

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Vote Count:
9 to lynch

qwints
: 7 (
Kmd4390
,
Yosarian2, crywolf20084, camn, DrippingGoofball,
hasdgfas,
Xylthixlm
)
hasdgfas: 4 (scotmany12,
populartajo
, sam.samhorn,
qwints
)
stark: 2 (
Caboose, Tarhalindur
)

Not Voting: 4 (stark, Korejora,
Rogueben
, farside22
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:59 am

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I think what is most striking is how stark wagons never have any scum on them.

In light of the dwindling likelihood that we have a cop, a mafia framer immune role seems increasingly absurd.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:44 am

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scotmany12 wrote:I am Saint Thomas Aquinas, philosopher and priest of the Roman Catholic Church. Simply a town vanilla.
No,
I
am
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Aquinas!

... Seriously, though. That's my role.
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:36 am

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Korejora wrote:
scotmany12 wrote:I am Saint Thomas Aquinas, philosopher and priest of the Roman Catholic Church. Simply a town vanilla.
No,
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Aquinas!

... Seriously, though. That's my role.
You are counterclaiming Aquinas?

And when can we expect you to hunt scum and making cases so that we can evaluate your alignment?
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:05 am

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Unvote, Vote: Kore
. She and farside are the remaining scum.
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:21 am

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@scot

We still need samhorn's claim, and Kore's confirmation that she's counterclaiming Aquinas.

After that, all hell will break loose.
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:42 am

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so, look. To all townies:

Unless some serious changes happen... This is how it is going to go:

Today, Stark and Scot will die.
If scot flips town, Korejora will die tonight.
If scot flips scum, farside dies tonight.

If that doesnt end the game, then Tar will almost certainly die by Mafia-kill.
After that, we will proceed to lynch Kore(or farside), Pop, then Slicey until all scum are dead.

Anyone who fails to comply with this plan is scum.
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:52 am

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oops... I forgot Sam. He dies before Pop!
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:51 am

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Hey guys, stark and scot are the last two scum.
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