Newbie 764 - Game Over

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

You awaken to the hustle and bustle of your home town’s daily activity. Little did you know that the peaceful quiet of your normal, everyday life would come crashing down today. It seems that one of your fellow citizens has angered the Mob, and has paid for it with his life! What are you going to do? Why, you’re going to get your peaceful, little town back, that’s what…

Your job, fair citizens of the town’s Ruling Council, is to discover who among you belong to the Mafia and summarily lynch them. Two of your fellow Council members are working for the Mafia - find them before they take over the Council and the town!

Living Players (1)

-

Confirmed players are in bold.

Ojanen

*

indicates

IC

player.

The ICs are here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.

Dead Players (8)

Japles

,

Mafia Goon

, lynched Day 1

Chaos40

,

Townie

, killed Night 1

Kairyuu *

,

Townie

, lynched Day 2

Sando

(replaced iMuse77 during confirmation),

Townie

, killed Night 2

Starbuck

(replaced Millar13, Bekkatha, Taranski during confirmation),

Townie

, lynched Day 3

Infinis

,

Townie

, killed Night 3

semioldguy

(replaced Josh Lyman),

Townie

, lynched Day 4

Korts *

,

Townie

, killed in Endgame

Ojanen

won the game for the

Mafia

team!!

Game Links

Day 1 Lynch | Day 2 Lynch | Day 3 Lynch | Day 4 Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Game Rules:

General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
   
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
   
3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
   
4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
   
5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
   
6. In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
7. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.

Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:

1. A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
   
2. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.
   
3. Please submit votes as:
   Vote: PlayerName
   .
   Votes will NOT be counted otherwise!
   
   
4. Please submit vote revocations as either
   UnVote: PlayerName
   or
   Unvote
   . Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
   
5. You may
   Vote: No Lynch
   - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
   
6. At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.
   There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.
   
   
7. Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; the lynched player may not post during twilight but all other living players may continue to post.
   
8. Once you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post.

Miscellaneous/Mechanics:

1. Red
   or
   Purple
   text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed.
   
2. Votecounts will be posted once per page or once per day, whichever is less.
   
3. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
   
4. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
   
5. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
   
   
6. Prods of missing players will be issued upon request or after 4 days of no activity. A prodded player has 48 hours to respond or risks replacement. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to replacement without further notice.
   
7. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity, up to and including a Modkill. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night.
   
8. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
   Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.

The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game.

Helpful Links:

• Main Wiki Page
  
• Newbie Guide
  
• Frequently Asked Questions
  
• Commonly Used Abbreviations
  
• Mafia Theory

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

The F11 setup is the current game format used in Newbie games. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen from one of four possible setups as detailed below:

• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Sane Doctor, 5 Townies
  
• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies
  
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies
  
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Doctor, 6 Townies

If either of the first two setups are in play, and the situation occurs where the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will still be able to submit both night kills and roleblocks (roleblocking is a function of the Roleblocker; night kills are a function of the scum team as a whole).

These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:

Mafia-Aligned players:

Mafia Goon:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,

name

. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.

• During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  
• During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  
• You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  
• You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Mafia Roleblocker:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,

name

. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.

• During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  
• As a Roleblocker, you have the ability to distract any player throughout the night, effectively negating their night ability, if they have one.
  
• Send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to block. If they have a Night action, it will have no effect. You will not be informed as to whether your roleblock worked or not.
  
• During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  
• You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  
• You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Town-Aligned players:

Townie:

You are a normal townsperson, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.

• You have no abilities at Night other than getting a good night's rest.
  
• Although you do not have any special abilities, your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Cop:

You are the local law enforcement, and can tell the good guys from the bad.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate.
  
• The Moderator will inform you as to that person’s guilt or innocence.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, you will always get a correct result (no sanity issues).
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Doctor:

You are the local physician, and can protect people from harm.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to protect.
  
• If someone attempts to kill that player during the Night, they will be spared.
  
• You may not protect yourself.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, your protection target will always live through the night (no quacks).
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Getting replacements for iMuse77 and Taranski from the Queue. Everyone else may get started.

NOTE: This game has fixed 3-week deadlines. Use the time wisely!

Game on!

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

/confirm

Off to work, will post later tonight, but wont be for at least 12+ hours.

p.s. am i meant to confirm as a replacement?

It's a confirmation replacement. Effectively you're starting this game from scratch so technically it's not a replacement in the traditional sense.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Josh Lyman - 1 (Ojanen)
Chaos40 - 1 (Kairyuu)

Kairyuu - 2 (Korts, Infinis)

Ojanen - 1 (Josh Lyman)
Korts - 1 (Japles)
Japles - 1 (Chaos40)

Not Voting - 2 (Bekkatha, Sando)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Josh Lyman - 1 (Ojanen)
Ojanen - 1 (Josh Lyman)

Sando - 3 (Kairyuu, Chaos40, Korts)

Kairyuu - 1 (Sando)

Not Voting - 3 (Bekkatha, Infinis, Japles)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Josh Lyman - 1 (Ojanen)
Ojanen - 1 (Josh Lyman)

Sando - 3 (Kairyuu, Chaos40, Korts)

Kairyuu - 1 (Sando)

Not Voting - 3 (Bekkatha, Infinis, Japles)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Ojanen - 1 (Josh Lyman)

Sando - 3 (Chaos40, Korts, Japles)

Kairyuu - 1 (Sando)

Not Voting - 4 (Bekkatha, Infinis, Kairyuu, Ojanen)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

The silent trio needs to wake up.

Requesting prod for Bekkatha

, her last post was Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:28 pm.
Josh Lyman said she was away until Tuesday morning, well it's Saturday afternoon in my time zone now so I think she should be prodded too.
Infinis posted two days ago, but I want him to butt in on stuff, come on tell us what you think of all this?

I'm gonna try to get my thoughts collected and post properly later today.

Bekkatha was prodded on the 4th and picked up that prod. Josh was prodded on the 3rd and has responded to that prod.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Replacing Bekkatha due to inactivity.

Millar13 replaces Bekkatha.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Sando - 2 (Chaos40, Korts)

Kairyuu - 1 (Sando)
Infinis - 1 (Kairyuu)
Korts - 1 (Infinis)
Japles - 1 (Ojanen)

Not Voting - 3 (Japles, Josh Lyman, Millar13)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

1 Week to Deadline

Vote Count

Sando - 2 (Chaos40, Korts)

Infinis - 1 (Kairyuu)
Korts - 1 (Infinis)
Japles - 2 (Ojanen, Sando)

Not Voting - 3 (Japles, Josh Lyman, Millar13)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

6 Days to Deadline

Vote Count

Sando - 2 (Chaos40, Korts)

Infinis - 1 (Kairyuu)
Korts - 1 (Infinis)
Japles - 2 (Ojanen, Sando)

Not Voting - 3 (Japles, Josh Lyman, Millar13)

5 to Lynch (

Deadline Lynch

)

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Final Day 1 Vote Count

Sando - 1 (Korts)
Korts - 1 (Infinis)

Japles - 5 (Ojanen, Sando, Chaos40, Millar13, Kairyuu)

Not Voting - 2 (Japles, Josh Lyman)

5 to Lynch

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Japles is aggregiously quiet, even as the mob leads him to the gallows. No final words, not a sound as he is hanged. Fearing the worst, you search his person and discover a small pistol! Apparently Japles was working for the Mob!!!

Japles,

Mafia Goon

, lynched Day 1

Night has begun. Those of you with night actions must submit your choices before Saturday, April 18th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Chaos' long years of service to your town has left him with nothing more than an ignominious death, shot dead by the Mafia as he slept.

Chaos40,

Townie

, killed Night 1

Day 2 has begun. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is the end of Saturday, May 9th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Infinis - 1 (Kairyuu)

Not Voting - 6 (Infinis, Josh Lyman, Korts, Millar13, Ojanen, Sando)

4 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Saturday, May 9th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

mod: if the mafia doesn't send in anything during a night phase, is their kill randomized?

Only if they're absent during the Night phase (due to V/LA or replacement search). Otherwise...

Game Rules:

General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
   
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
   
3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
   
   
4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
   
5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
   
6. In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
7. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.

This keeps you dirty buggers guessing so you're not tempted to try to meta the game state.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

@Mod:

This keeps you dirty buggers guessing so you're not tempted to try to meta the game state.

So, when exactly was the last time Josh was prodded/responded to a prod. I figure that asking direct questions about the game state is much more helpful than trying to meta it.

Both Josh and Ojanen have until tomorrow morning to post something before being prodded, considering we just came out of a Night phase.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Infinis - 1 (Kairyuu)

Kairyuu - 1 (Infinis)

Not Voting - 5 (Korts, Millar13, Ojanen, Sando, semioldguy)

4 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Saturday, May 9th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Replacing Josh Lyman for failing to respond to a prod.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

semioldguy replaces Josh Lyman.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Infinis - 2 (Kairyuu, Millar13)

Kairyuu - 1 (semioldguy)

Not Voting - 4 (Infinis, Korts, Ojanen, Sando)

4 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Saturday, May 9th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Infinis - 2 (Kairyuu, Starbuck)

Kairyuu - 2 (semioldguy, Sando)

Not Voting - 3 (Infinis, Korts, Ojanen)

4 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Saturday, May 9th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Starbuck replaces Millar13.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Final Day 2 Vote Count

Infinis - 2 (Kairyuu, Starbuck)

Kairyuu - 4 (semioldguy, Sando, Ojanen, Korts)

Not Voting - 1 (Infinis)

4 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Saturday, May 9th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Kairyuu's fight attempting to get the remaining Council Members to listen to him goes very badly. As he is led to the gallows, the rest of you have a bad feeling. Well, not all of you have a bad feeling...

Kairyuu,

Townie

, lynched Day 2

Night has begun. Those of you with night actions must submit your choices before Thursday, April 30.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Sando is found dead the next day, the latest victim of the Mafia. The Town Council is in dire straits, and control of the town seems to be slipping fast.

Sando,

Townie

, killed Night 2

Day 3 has begun. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is the end of Wednesday, May 20th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Final Day 3 Vote Count

Starbuck - 3 (semioldguy, Korts, Ojanen)

semioldguy - 1 (Starbuck)

Not Voting - 1 (Infinis)

3 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Wednesday, May 20th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

The day seems to fly by as you quickly decide that Starbuck is the most likely remaining member of the Mafia. The town drags her off to the gallows, but her innocence is soon painfully discovered.

Starbuck,

Townie

, lynched Day 3

Night has begun. Those of you with night actions must submit your choices before Tuesday, May 5th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Infinis worked hard as the Chief of Police for this town, and his loss, while not entirely unexpected, is still painful.

Infinis,

Cop

, killed Night 3

Day 4 has begun. With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. Deadline is the end of Monday, May 25th.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

NOTE: My dissertation defense is tomorrow, so don't expect me to see me until Thursday. If a lynch occurs before I get back feel free to chit-chat.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Ojanen - 1 (semioldguy)
semioldguy - 1 (Ojanen)

Not Voting - 1 (Korts)

2 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Wednesday, May 27th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Ojanen - 1 (semioldguy)

semioldguy - 1 (Ojanen, Korts)

Not Voting - 0 ()

2 to Lynch.

Deadline

is the end of Wednesday, May 27th (Eastern, GMT - 4).

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Korts is left as the deciding vote, the fate of the Town hanging in the balance. Unfortunately, the fight between his head and his heart is a losing one, and the Mafia rejoice at the capture of another town.

semioldguy,

Townie

, Lynched Day 4

Ojanen

wins the game for the

Mafia

team!!

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Role Reveal:

Chaos40 [col]Townie Sando (iMuse77) [col]Townie Infinis [col]Cop Japles [col]Mafia Goon semioldguy (Josh Lyman)[col] Townie Kairyuu * [col]Townie Korts * [col] Townie Ojanen [col]Mafia Goon Starbuck (Taranski, Bekkatha, Millar13 ^)[col]Townie

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Night Actions:

Night 1:

Infinis investigates Korts.
Ojanen NKs Chaos40.

Night 2:

Infinis investigates Sando.
Ojanen NKs Sando.

Night 3:

Infinis investigates Ojanen.
Ojanen NKs Infinis.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Everyone should use this time to post thoughts and observations about the game. Ask questions and try to figure out what went wrong (and right) with your play and how you can learn from it and improve. Be polite in pointing out mistakes made by others! Conversely, if someone points something out, learn from it – don’t get offended!!

My Observations

:

I would like to propose a counter-argument to the "replacements lost the game for the Town" theory. This quote by Korts sums it up in a nutshell:

Very good point about Infinis' Day 2 play, Ojanen. With that,

I'm convinced of Ojanen being town as well; scum wouldn't validate a cop-claim with citations of previous play.

So the scum, it seems, is one of semioldguy and Starbuck.

Why not? Apparently that's exactly what he did. You effectively WIFOM'd yourself into declaring Ojanen Town, and by giving him a free pass there, you completely ruled him out for Day 4. That's why you switched to semi at the last minute, because your "gut" feeling was tainted by that one thought. Even with the bad case he brought against semi, you were effectively blind because of the free pass you gave him.

NO ONE should get a free pass unless they are confirmed innocent. It's probably the hardest endgame skill to develop, but when one vote means losing, you're best served by developing the ability to think critically and without any emotional bias about the cases. Sometimes your gut is 100% spot on, but sometimes you contaminate your gut by making bad assumptions and it follows through, maybe not consciously, but it does have an effect. That's exactly what happened here.

When I saw Korts make that statement, I knew the game was over.

Not taking anything away from Ojanen, he did a fantastic job. But a town win was definitely possible.

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Thank you for the observant modding, VRK! I hope your doctoral dissertation defence went well.

Well I have to rewrite an entire chapter, but I passed!

Thanks Ojanen!

And that's Dr. VRK to the rest of you bitches!!

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

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