Hey guys. Back a little early, finished my project before deadline! Hurrah for no procrastinating...sort of...anyway, re-read the posts, and here are my views on a couple of them:
Gateway wrote:I've retired from the army here long before some of you were even born, and I still keep a few connections up high. By ten o'clock (night phase) I get a list of two possible people one possible scum. I can choose to pass that along in the morning... or ask my connections in the police force to deal with the one I think is it.
Ok, as you know, this is the original claim by Gateway. I just want to point out some major discrepencies between this and what he's saying now/flavor discrepencies/interesting points/doubtful points:
"I've retired from the army..."
-Later, when pressed for a specific title, he says he's a retired hitman. Hitmen, to my knowledge, are not typically in the army (unless they're some special ops stuff, and that's even a little extreme). Hitmen are normally underworld for-hire killers.
"...and I still keep my connections up high..." vs. "...connections in the police force..."
-Maybe I'm just nitpicky, but here's another possible flavor slip- assuming you're a retired armyman, policemen wouldn't be "connections up high."
"...by ten o'clock (night phase)..."
-I see nothing particularly revealing or
scummy
, as much as I find this interesting. I wonder if that's a random bit of information with no bearing, or if our nights in this game have some sort of timing structure.
"...or
ask
my connections in the
police force
to
deal with
the one I think it is..."
-"Ask" implies a request, not an order. This seems to all hinge on whoever the cop is to accept such a request.
-"Police force." Thinking logically "police"=cop=investigating. Not killing. Most games that I've participated in has a cop who
investigates
, not kills.
-"Deal with..." Very, very ambiguous.
-Notice that as the game goes on, Gateway phases the cops out of this at all. Now, it seems (and as Jazz pointed out), that it will be HIM [Gateway] doing the killing directly.
All in all, I'm 90% sure the claim is untrue- it has too many holes. If it does (doubt it) turn out to be true, then it may hold some interesting info.
Anyway,
Gateway wrote:I already said I can kill one of the two people if I want so yes.
An example of Gateway leaving the cops out of the picture.
Gateway wrote:
Basically lynching me on a hunch day 1, or wait and lynch me day two with a 100% facts if I don't supply two names that fit the towns satisfaction. Which is better?
Ok, the plan that is currently being considered for Gateway is all fine and dandy, but consider this- IF we were to leave him be, and he IS mafia, this is worst case scenario:
-We lynch town today
-Tonight, mob NKs, Gateway prepares phony list with two townies, and "chose to present them to us."
-Day: lynch one on the list, turns up town.
-Night again, mob NKs again
-Next day, we lynch other townie on "list." Turns up town, we know Gateway is mob.
-Mob NKs that night
-Day, we lynch Gateway, turns up mafia.
TOWN BODY COUNT: 6
MAFIA BODY COUNT: 1
Is that really worth it? If we're going to let Gateway live, we better be damn sure that we don't mess up one step of the way. If he is scum, we're trusting a lot in his hands.
Gateway wrote:Unless Panzerjager comes up with a good excuse for their false claim, Panzerjager is scum.
Scum because they said they had experience with you? Doubt it, but I suppose it's poooossible. But you're overreacting QUITE a bit here.
sekinj wrote:well, in that case, i completely believe gateway!!! who knows was other very powerful role the bad guys have!
...
In any case, let it be noted that sekinj is heavily and wholeheartedly defending Gateway.
sekinj wrote:I find it believeable because I don't think gateway could come up with it on his own.
Possible. But, if my theory is correct, that the claim is fake because of all of the holes, it could fit with your "excuse" for sekinj. You find it hard to believe that he came up on his own due to inexperience or inattentiveness? Well, with all of the descrepencies, maybe it could only be him who came up with it.
sekinj wrote:
i think gateway just skims and does see everything.
I think you mean "doesn't." And this post, among others of yours, remind me of a mother defending her son, frivolously and unnecessarily. It strikes me as odd that sekinj defends not Gateway's gameplay, but his
reading skills.
Noted.
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Nah. I'm 5'8", which is rather tall for a 15-year-old American girl.
