Mini 738: The Town of Merrin - Game Over

GIEFF · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:32 am

And I do NOT think the day is ready to end. There is no rush.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:34 am

If Dour flips maf game is over or SL is SK. She can do what the hell she likes...

SensFan · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:34 am

GIEFF wrote:It makes sense to lynch the person more likely to be scum, so we have that information during the night-phase, right? Doesn't B_B's report mean Dourgrim is more likely scum than Sensfan?

This.

Panzer had a point about there not being high odds of an Investiation-Immune GF. There could

very well

be a Kill-Immune Gf, especially if the Town really has a Vig.

GIEFF · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:36 am

B_B and Xtoxm, do you agree with the plan where B_B tracks Xtoxm 100% and Xtoxm docs B_B 90%?

And Panzer, do you agree with the investigation of mykonian?

springlullaby · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:36 am

GIEFF wrote:It makes sense to lynch the person more likely to be scum, so we have that information during the night-phase, right? Doesn't B_B's report mean Dourgrim is more likely scum than Sensfan?

No, BB said something about flavor on Sensfan.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:38 am

BB Please clear up with the mod the confusion with your Sens result.

Like I said, i'll happily lynch Dour.

GIEFF · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:39 am

There is not a kill-immune GF. I would prefer to lynch (rather than vig) maf in case SL is the SK and decides to go rogue. Or in case SL is the vig and decides to go rogue.

springlullaby · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:39 am

SensFan wrote:
GIEFF wrote:It makes sense to lynch the person more likely to be scum, so we have that information during the night-phase, right? Doesn't B_B's report mean Dourgrim is more likely scum than Sensfan?
This.

Panzer had a point about there not being high odds of an Investiation-Immune GF. There could
very well
be a Kill-Immune Gf, especially if the Town really has a Vig.

Yes and that is exactly why I want you lynched over dour.

Because in GIEFF's plan, I get lynched if I fail to kill sensfan, which smells like a rat, because I have no control over night immunity.

Plus dour vote me when he could have voted sensfan, meaning he probably isn't NK immune.

SensFan · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:41 am

For fuck's sake, SL, do you actually have a case against me that isn't either OMGUS or 'You didn't claim Power'?

springlullaby wrote:Plus dour vote me when he could have voted sensfan, meaning he probably isn't NK immune.

My vote is on you, too, dumbass.

GIEFF · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:42 am

I still don't get why B_B thinks that a no-visit result clears anyone. Isn't it true that just one scum actually goes out and does the killing, and so only one scum can be tracked?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:46 am

Yes Gieff. When there is only one scum who can do that kill, it's clearing.

springlullaby · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:46 am

SensFan wrote:For fuck's sake, SL, do you actually have a case against me that isn't either OMGUS or 'You didn't claim Power'?

springlullaby wrote:Plus dour vote me when he could have voted sensfan, meaning he probably isn't NK immune.
My vote is on you, too, dumbass.

1. You don't get to talk to me like that.

2. Dour voted me after the plan about lynching you and vigging him was proposed.

3. I don't get why you are resisting the lynch at all since if you were town it would make no difference to you as I'm vigging you anyway.

SensFan · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:48 am

springlullaby wrote:
SensFan wrote:For fuck's sake, SL, do you actually have a case against me that isn't either OMGUS or 'You didn't claim Power'?

springlullaby wrote:Plus dour vote me when he could have voted sensfan, meaning he probably isn't NK immune.
My vote is on you, too, dumbass.
1. You don't get to talk to me like that.

2. Dour voted me after the plan about lynching you and vigging him was proposed.

3. I don't get why you are resisting the lynch at all since if you were town it would make no difference to you as I'm vigging you anyway.

1. When you reference this game and insult me in another one, yes I do.
2. Exactly my fucking point. That makes him much more likely to be Scum.
3. I can be vigged. I don't know if Dour can be vigged, but I know he can be lynched.

GIEFF · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:57 am

SL, you were very condescending to Sens earlier, so I understand why he is upset. When you play that antagonistically, some people will be able to contain themselves better than others; this can't be the first time somebody blew up at you, if your play in this game is typical.

You are not a dumbass, though, and Sensfan crossed the line that you were skirting.

Send to corner for timeout to think about what he has done: Sensfan

Xtoxm · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:18 pm

Gieff, that's patronising, and not helping. I see nothing wrong...

A lynch would be good.

springlullaby · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:21 pm

SensFan wrote: 3. I don't get why you are resisting the lynch at all since if you were town it would make no difference to you as I'm vigging you anyway.

1. When you reference this game and insult me in another one, yes I do.
2. Exactly my fucking point. That makes him much more likely to be Scum.
3. I can be vigged. I don't know if Dour can be vigged, but I know he can be lynched.[/quote]

1. That was because I was scum and trying to manipulate you over your meta on the off chance you were town so it doesn't count.

2. No, my point was that his voting me after the plan about lynching you then vigging him was discussed makes him less likely to be NK immune if he is scum.

3. So you want to lynch dour now?

springlullaby · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:22 pm

Ebwop fixed tags.

SensFan wrote: 1. When you reference this game and insult me in another one, yes I do.
2. Exactly my fucking point. That makes him much more likely to be Scum.
3. I can be vigged. I don't know if Dour can be vigged, but I know he can be lynched.

1. That was because I was scum and trying to manipulate you over your meta on the off chance you were town so it doesn't count.

2. No, my point was that his voting me after the plan about lynching you then vigging him was discussed makes him less likely to be NK immune if he is scum.

3. So you want to lynch dour now?

Dourgrim · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:40 pm

OK, I see where this is going: if you guys don't lynch me, and I don't die via NK, then I'm the lynch tomorrow. That's bad for the Town because I'm VT.

Lynch me.

The ONLY way that can be bad for the Town is if I'm a Jester (or whatever that retarded role is that wants to be lynched), which I understand is a wildly unpopular role to put in games (and so therefore is unlikely at best).

Seriously. Stop trying to decide

who

to lynch, just worry about what you're going to do with the information you'll gain upon my death.

I'll tell you this, though: SL is likely to be anti-Town, and almost all of you are being assholes to one another, whether it's for pro-Town reasons or not. Stop it. It makes the game not fun.

SensFan · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:44 pm

GIEFF wrote:
Send to corner for timeout to think about what he has done: Sensfan

Be sure to let me know when you want me out of the timeout, then.

GIEFF · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:46 pm

Remove from timeout: SensFan

I echo Dourgrim's plea to stop being assholes. Especially you, B_B. Poopface.

I'd like to hear from B_B and Panzer that they agree with the plan before we lynch Dour. If you are town, thanks for the sacrifice, Dour. Why wouldn't you prefer to lynch Sens, though, for the same reason he prefers to lynch you?

Dourgrim · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:47 pm

Dourgrim wrote:OK, I see where this is going: if you guys don't lynch me, and I don't die via NK, then I'm the lynch tomorrow. That's bad for the Town because I'm VT.

Lynch me.
The ONLY way that can be bad for the Town is if I'm a Jester (or whatever that retarded role is that wants to be lynched), which I understand is a wildly unpopular role to put in games (and so therefore is unlikely at best).

EBWOP: it will also be bad for the Town when I'm lynched because I'm a VT, so you won't be lynching scum. However, since no one's likely to believe that at this point, and since it's a rather obvious statement for any player in my situation to make, it's probably redundant. I just figured I should fully disclose so no one can accuse me of lying.

SensFan · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:48 pm

Just making this VERY clear.

SL, you are to kill me tonight. I know I am Vanilla, so if I do not die, I will be voting you tomorrow, ESPECIALLY if there are 2 deaths.

Dourgrim · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:51 pm

GIEFF wrote:If you are town, thanks for the sacrifice, Dour. Why wouldn't you prefer to lynch Sens, though, for the same reason he prefers to lynch you?

Because I think SL is the SK, because I don't believe the Vig claim. I also believe that, if I am not the lynch choice, I won't get NK'd because it will frame me perfectly and buy SL yet another day to manipulate the Town. I do not believe that SensFan is the SK, so therefore I have voted for the person I believe is most likely anti-Town.

Would you like me to self-vote? I don't want to do so until you guys have had as much civilized discussion as you're capable of and interested in having, but I will do so when you're ready to end the day. However, I will leave my vote on the person I believe strongest is scum until that time.

GIEFF · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:52 pm

I think we should let SL choose who to vig, as it is her neck on the line if her kill doesn't go through. If she is the SK, this aligns her interests with the town's.

Definitely do not self-vote.

SensFan · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:54 pm

GIEFF wrote:I think we should let SL choose who to vig, as it is her neck on the line if her kill doesn't go through. If she is the SK, this aligns her interests with the town's.

No.

I do not want SL being able to get away with killing ANYONE but me. Otherwise, she will 'decide' that someone else looked scummier, and then tomorrow will push for my lynch again, and the Town will have to decide between her and I.