Mini 738: The Town of Merrin - Game Over

[Beyond_Birthday]

Game solved:
Day 3
BB Tracker
Xtoxm Doctor
mykonian Deputy
Panzerjager Cop
springlullaby Vigilante
SensFan VT
GIEFF VT
Dour VT <--Lynch

Night 3
BB Tracker Tracks a VT (Gieff in example)
Xtoxm Doctor Protects Cop
mykonian Deputy (is shot, dies)
Panzerjager Cop (investigates vig)
springlullaby Vigilante shoots mykonian
SensFan VT
GIEFF VT is tracked

Day 4

Possibility one:
Doc is killed:

Remaining:

Tracker
Cop
Vig
Vt
Vt

Vig is cleared, one VT is condemned/cleared, thus the obvious is:
Lynch uncleared VT, vig shoots cop. (Assumes tracker is town. However, I think that when the people who I've said went no where actually went no where, I can say that I'm cleared... *laughs* seriously though, to me this is won.)

Possibility 2: Tracker dies

Doc
Cop
Vig
VT
VT (lynched, unless vig is guilty by cop. If cop lies, we win as cop is mafia)
--> Night 4:
Doc protects Cop, Cop investigates VT, vig does nothing, and game is won. Whoever mafia kills is either vig or the doc. If Cop dies, doc is mafia. If vig dies, most likely, cop will hav necessary guilty on "VT" to win game, or innocent to prove the doc is lying.

Also, mafia can't just do nothing because then town will do nothing and gain investigations as cop slowly clears people or finds the guilty. If cop is mafia and we lose two peole to tomorrow (myk and Dour) we have 6 people, thus Cop cannot be mafia finding a false guilty without losing. Game's over in my book.

[GIEFF]

Why would the cop investigate the vig? He already did, and got an "innocent."

[mykonian]

He has the vig as confirmed, while that is exactly the role that is the hardest to confirm...

This game would be easy without investigation immunity, but SK's usually are, and it doesn't seem that unnatural that godfathers are it too...

[PJ.]

Godfathers are normally. SKs are not.

[SensFan]

Godfathers are normally. SKs are not.

I disagree.

[PJ.]

I Digress

[GIEFF]

The point is that B_B's plan is not optimal, because it has Panzer re-checking spring. That's a waste of a PR.

[springlullaby]

SL, why are you so concerned about us rushing into Night, when the soundness of our plan may very well decide whether or not we win?

Because incompetent ineptitude makes me bloody fucking irate.

It doesn't take a maths genus to see that there is no fail proof plan. Yet the chance of town losing are very low so WHAT ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT

If you have a relevant suggestion to make, make it, in meantime, your pointlessness is directly credited to your failscum account.

[GIEFF]

Xtoxm, tell me what the difference is between SL shooting herself followed by the town lynching Player A and SL shooting player A, followed by the town lynching SL. Even better, tell me why the second is better than the first.

Here are two reasons why I think the first is better than the second. Either explain why you disagree, or come up with reasons why your strategy is better.

1. It avoids the possibility that SL is the actual vig, tries to kill a NK-immune, and we lynch her for this, keeping the NK-immune alive.
   
2. It allows us to make the decision on the third town-kill with information from B_B's tracker report, Panzer's cop report, spring's alignment, and Dourgrim's alignment. If we decide who spring should NK right now, we don't get to use any of that information to make that decision.

Waiting, Xtoxm.

And waiting for B_B to come up with a plan that doesn't involve the cop investigating the same person twice.

[SensFan]

Just letting everyone know, I don't plan on responding to any post made by SLScum/SLDumbass.

[GIEFF]

1) This is a game. Please try to act in a respectful manner towards everyone.

Very first rule, SL. Knock it off.

[Beyond_Birthday]

Same plan except night 1, Cop investigates me. That's a faster and more secure win. (Also, when I made it, it was on a white board without reference to who Panzer had cleared.)

[Xtoxm]

HuH> what u ewaitn for, girdfF? I pPRONMISE I'M A docoter <3

[Dourgrim]

I know I said I wasn't posting anymore, but this is too much:

1) This is a game. Please try to act in a respectful manner towards everyone.

Very first rule, SL. Knock it off.

Interesting how this rule is selectively applied, wouldn't you say? Why don't you point this out when other players violate it, GIEFF?

[PJ.]

Lol Well, since Dour isn't posting anymore we might as well lynch him.(Pot. Kettle. Ect.)

Anyway PLAN

SL Shoots Self
Watcher Watches Gieff
Xtoxm Docs ME
Me cops Mykonian

[mykonian]

watcher already saw GIEFF, I thought. Plus that I think we should never pin the doc, and the tracker is probably more valuable, in case he is not scum.

[Xtoxm]

Panz, there's no point playing on the assumption SL will shoot herself. Do me or BB.

[PJ.]

Then have her shoot Gieff...and I'll cop mykonian and BB with track sens again.

[springlullaby]

Do this quick.

I'm VLA 6 to 17th april.

[SensFan]

Then have her shoot Gieff...and I'll cop mykonian and BB with track sens again.

Why should I be tracked again, out of curiosity? Isn't it a waste of a role?

[mykonian]

Panzer, you should let BB do the tracking of people he hasn't yet tracked, in case of investigation immunity. BB could investigate me, I guess. SL should kill herself, or else she is the SK.

[SensFan]

SL should kill herself, or else she is the SK.

SL has already shown that she is too egotistical to put the Town's goals ahead of her own, even if she's Town.

And to be honest, I would bet that even if the plan calls to shoot someone else, she'll kill me overnight if she's Town.

[mykonian]

then she would not be playing to win. She can see too that she'll win if she is not the SK, and that we are best of having her confirmed. Don't be so negative.

[springlullaby]

SL should kill herself, or else she is the SK.

SL has already shown that she is too egotistical to put the Town's goals ahead of her own, even if she's Town.

And to be honest, I would bet that even if the plan calls to shoot someone else, she'll kill me overnight if she's Town.

Oh, and you know me so well.

Scum.

[GIEFF]

Panz, there's no point playing on the assumption SL will shoot herself. Do me or BB.

Would you please answer my question, and explain why you refuse to see why SL shooting herself is the best possible plan?