Mini 686 - Chess Mafia (Done)

[sirdanilot]

let's post people

[veerus]

my vote is in..

fyi, see sig

[Lawrencelot]

I prefer Qb3. It puts pressure on several pawns.

Plus it also gives us the option to play Bf3 which develops the white squared bishop while prompting another chance at an exchange.

I don't get this.

[sirdanilot]

Don't listen to him; he's scum!

[Indigo Heron]

I stare and I stare...but I don't see Qb3 being as good as Qe3.

move: Qe3

[veerus]

I prefer Qb3. It puts pressure on several pawns.

Plus it also gives us the option to play Bf3 which develops the white squared bishop while prompting another chance at an exchange.

I don't get this.

Sorry, I meant Bd3.

[sirdanilot]

oh the silence...

qe3 is better anyway. explain to me

why

exactly Bd3 has any merit whatsoever. How exactly does it pressure any black pawn on the board. It doesn't and I explained why on the previous page. Don't listen to veerus-scum.

[Max]

Vote: Qe3

[MafiaSSK]

Mass prod anyone?

[Lawrencelot]

Qb3 attacks the b4 and d5 pawn. Sure they're protected, but that means the defenders of those pawns can't move. I don't see what Qe3 should accomplish, it's not like that knight is gonna panic and say 'oh if I move away that Queen can attack our bishop, I'll guess I'll stay here'

[Indigo Heron]

I have my analysis to share, but I currently have time constraints, so just bear with me, eh?

[Abstract Actuary]

Still here, nothing has changed for me. I still think Qb3 is slightly better than Qe3.

[sirdanilot]

nothing has changed for me either.

guys we're starting to stall...

[Abstract Actuary]

Anyone who doesn't have a vote on a move needs to make one or generate discussion.

[Goatrevolt]

Qb3 still looks better to me, but I'm curious about Indigo's assertion that Qe3 is better.

Max, why Qe3?

[MafiaSSK]

Kay. Massprodding.

[Lawrencelot]

Move: Qb3

[Max]

I played a friend from a position exactly like this today, when I say exactly like this I thought, "god now I've got to decide which one to do, Qb3 or Qe3. Then I did Qb3 and lost, though I suppose this time I probably would see what was coming. Just I feel the space may be jinxed

[sirdanilot]

nothing changes for me, which is annoying since I would definitely like to post something more constructive, but I can't since nothing is happening.

[Max]

I will be gone From Monday-Friday, possibly Saturday too, I have a funeral to go to. Sorry Guys, feel free to replace me.

[MafiaSSK]

Deadline in a week.

[Indigo Heron]

In a nutshell...

e4 c5 Nc3 Nc6 f4 e6 Nf3 f5 exf5 exf5 Qe2 Be7 Nd5 Nb4 Nxb4 cxb4 d4 Nf6 Qc4 a6 Bd2 b5 Qd3 O-O Qxf5 d5 Qd3 Ne4 g3 Bf5 Qe3

Making the move...

e4 c5 Nc3 Nc6 f4 e6 Nf3 f5 exf5 exf5 Qe2 Be7 Nd5 Nb4 Nxb4 cxb4 d4 Nf6 Qc4 a6 Bd2 b5 Qd3 O-O Qxf5 d5 Qd3 Ne4 g3 Bf5 Qe3 Nd6 Bxb4 Nc4 Bxc4 Bxb4 c3 dxc4 cxb4 Re8 Ne5 Qd6 O-O

The inevitable position as far as Qe3 is concerned. We currently have a potentially winning pawn combination in the centre, and are well-placed to halt (in my opinion) any kind of attack Black can muster without sacrificing tempo.

[Max]

I don't see why the knight would go to N3.

I personally can see several moves in your list that the mafia would never make

Vote: Indigo Heron

Unvote:Qe3

Vote: Qb3

[Indigo Heron]

Your alternatives are Qb6, Rc8, Bd6 and Bxd2.

I haven't looked into it, but Qe3 followed by Qb6 follows the obvious Bd3. Ne5 is another viable alternative.

Going after the pawn, which is what Rc8 does, simply means that White still plays Bd3.

Bd6 also means that Bd3 and Ne5 are viable candidates.

I know that you think that Nxd2 is the best move here. To me, it doesn't really matter. Kxf2 in view to the king's rook threatening Black's queen is just as viable. Same as Qxf2.

Besides, playing Qb3 means that the queen has brought herself away from the centre of the board. Black can force the queen to commit to that flank via Rc8.

[veerus]

Hi guys, I'm back from vacation. Looking over the recent comments, I'm not convinced that Qe3 is the better option.

Qb3 with c3 as the potential follow-up is the best way to simplify the position somewhat.