Open 135 - Polygamist Mafia, Incomplete/Mod Error before 775
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zwetschenwasser Doktor der Musik
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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Correct, but I detest random bandwagons and the RVS in general. I feel what I stated in my above post, that the bandwagon, that seems to be based on nothing in particular, will do little good besides Tenchi claiming a Lover (He could fakeclaim, of course, but we would have little evidence of such to begin with), which I don't believe would be particularly beneficial to the town. I fail to see any benefit that a random wagon gives us in this game, simply because we'll have no way of knowing if Polygamists are fakeclaiming lovers, or if we have legitimate lover claims. It may also put pressure on Techi, but at the moment he has absolutely nothing to defend against, so the pressure will be weak at best. I'd prefer to wait until I see something legitimately scummy to vote, and potentially for a bandwagon to form.Wall-E wrote:Not really. Any reason for the unvote? He wasn't in any immediate danger.-
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zwetschenwasser Doktor der Musik
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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zwetschenwasser wrote:Seraphim revealed that Tenchi has a gun...
It was rather obviously part of a joke. I was random-voting, unaware that you had already voted him, and that Wall-E would follow my vote.Seraphim wrote: Disclaimer: flavor has absolutely no indicators of anything. Just for shits and giggles.-
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zwetschenwasser Doktor der Musik
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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How am I lying?zwetschenwasser wrote:Liar.Unvote; Vote: PieIsPopcorn
I spent some time typing up my post, and then posted it, unaware that there had been a few posts since my initial one, and that you had already voted Tenchi.PieIsPopcorn wrote:... Woah, that's what I get for not hitting the preview button.-
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zwetschenwasser Doktor der Musik
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Seraphim she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Tenchi Mafia Scum
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Archon Goon
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This made me laugh so hard.Seraphim wrote:It began simply.Twelve persons of questionable integrity and sexual standingstood upon a small hill as the sun rose. At first, they merely stared each other, frightened that any move might motivate the mob...that they may be lynched unjustly and lose their only love...or that they might be lynched rightly...
Wait... are you seriously asking that?zwetschenwasser wrote:Why is Pie still alive?
unvote, Vote zwetNow modding Vengeful Mafia
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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sekinj Mafia Scum
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pie seems a little nervous...
@Pie - have YOU played with zwet before?
Zwet is like a harmless little puppy... with a loaded gun...Show-sekinj
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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Really? I don't see where that interpretation comes from, and I'm pretty good at reading the tone of my posts. I'm a tad confused, but not nervous.sekinj wrote:pie seems a little nervous...
I am currently playing with zwet in an ongoing game, and seeing more or less the exact same behavior. The sample may be tainted however.sekinj wrote:@Pie - have YOU played with zwet before?
That's not a horrible analogy, but I still feel that zwet shouldn't be allowed to make claims and then not be pressed to back them up, even in the early stages of the game. I stand by this-sekinj wrote:Zwet is like a harmless little puppy... with a loaded gun...
And that is impossible if players like zwet don't provide logic and reasoning to go with their votes. I don't feel that it's particularly scummy for zwet, so I'm not voting him for it. However it's still frustrating behavior, in my opinion.PieIsPopcorn wrote: Keeping an eye on wagons and the reasoning for votes should be a main priority throughout.-
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Tenchi Mafia Scum
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Isn't this an open setup? Polygamists can ONLY claim lovers right?PieIsPopcorn wrote:
I fail to see any benefit that a random wagon gives us in this game, simply because we'll have no way of knowing if Polygamists are fakeclaiming lovers,Wall-E wrote:Not really. Any reason for the unvote? He wasn't in any immediate danger.
Most of us have legitimate lover claims. And it can be cross confirmed. The thing is, the polygamists will surely find some pairing for the four of them to claim, but we all know those four like doing it together behind our backs...... or if we have legitimate lover claims.Yes. That same Tenchi.
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Archon Goon
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No, but it was like... what?PieIsPopcorn wrote:
Explain to me where I lied zwet, and we can discuss it. This accomplishes nothing.zwetschenwasser wrote:Why is Pie still alive?
Have you played with zwet before Archon?Archon wrote:
Wait... are you seriously asking that?zwetschenwasser wrote:Why is Pie still alive?
unvote, Vote zwet
http://www.rrrrthats5rs.com/games/dont-shoot-the-puppy/sekinj wrote:pie seems a little nervous...
@Pie - have YOU played with zwet before?
Zwet is like a harmless little puppy... with a loaded gun...Now modding Vengeful Mafia
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PieIsPopcorn Townie
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I should have said it more clearly. They won't fakeclaim lovers persay, they'll claim lover pairs. So yeah, they'll claim lovers. However we won't be able to tell, through a random bandwagon, whether or not such a lover claim is legitimate, and it would therefore not be particularly useful to the town.Tenchi wrote:
Isn't this an open setup? Polygamists can ONLY claim lovers right?PieIsPopcorn wrote:
I fail to see any benefit that a random wagon gives us in this game, simply because we'll have no way of knowing if Polygamists are fakeclaiming lovers,Wall-E wrote:Not really. Any reason for the unvote? He wasn't in any immediate danger.
... or if we have legitimate lover claims.
Well, if the polygamists do the logical pairing, cross-confirming won't be an issue. In the same way, everybody in the game has a "legitimate" lover claim. Just replace "legitimate' with "pro-town", and it would be a more accurate summation.Tenchi wrote:Most of us have legitimate lover claims. And it can be cross confirmed. The thing is, the polygamists will surely find some pairing for the four of them to claim, but we all know those four like doing it together behind our backs...-
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mikek Townie
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So, what's the deal with zwet? He only posts one-line posts? Seems anti-town but if that's his usual style it's a null tell and we can't afford a policy lynch here.
Pie seems very twitchy. There's no need to flip out when someone gets to three random votes. It's seven to lynch. This was pretty funny:
Nervous, much?PieIsPopcorn wrote:
Really? I don't see where that interpretation comes from, and I'm pretty good at reading the tone of my posts. I'm a tad confused, but not nervous.sekinj wrote:pie seems a little nervous...
By the way, I'm pretty sure that we're going to massloverclaim before this day is up. This will provide us with useful info---it greatly reduces the number of possible combinations of players that could be polygamists, which makes it easier to analyse votes and such. I don't think it gets the polygamists much, either.everything under the sun is in tune
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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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zwetschenwasser Doktor der Musik
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Tenchi Mafia Scum
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AceMarksman Mafia Scum
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The hell we are. What would be the advantage for a mass claim, eh? Everyone has a viable claim partner (including the polygamists), so it would only tell the polygamists who their best kill would be.mikek wrote:
By the way, I'm pretty sure that we're going to massloverclaim before this day is up.
Vote: mikekShow"either he's scum and yay 1 less scum, or he's town and yay 1 less zwetschenwasser. " ~Moratorium
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Wall-E Mafia Scum
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Four of us have three friends who won't let one of their own die. Under any circumstances. Your fear of the Tenchi wagon (bussing in the RVS?) is noted. Having strong emotions about a particular course of events in mafia is anti-town, because every scenario is helpful in different ways, so hating RVS bandwagons is both irrational and counterproductive.PieIsPopcorn wrote:
Correct, but I detest random bandwagons and the RVS in general. I feel what I stated in my above post, that the bandwagon, that seems to be based on nothing in particular, will do little good besides Tenchi claiming a Lover (He could fakeclaim, of course, but we would have little evidence of such to begin with), which I don't believe would be particularly beneficial to the town. I fail to see any benefit that a random wagon gives us in this game, simply because we'll have no way of knowing if Polygamists are fakeclaiming lovers, or if we have legitimate lover claims. It may also put pressure on Techi, but at the moment he has absolutely nothing to defend against, so the pressure will be weak at best. I'd prefer to wait until I see something legitimately scummy to vote, and potentially for a bandwagon to form.Wall-E wrote:Not really. Any reason for the unvote? He wasn't in any immediate danger.[url=http://s45creations.wordpress.com]I own a design studio[/url] :)-
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Personally I don't see Pie as jumpy, just upset at the speed with which the bandwagon formed on Tenchi. As for me, I tend to err on the side of risky plays, so I like a good early-game wagon, but certainly I know that not everyone is like me and Pie's caution is therefore justified (even if faked to cover jumpiness).
I'd also like to point out that it's possible Pie was bussing his partner to keep the scum off his trail? He seems to be the only one who was concerned with Tenchi's life.
Tenchi's vote on him would suggest otherwise, though, and if they are not partners I don't think Pie is scum. Tenchi wouldn't have pushed the distancing further with his vote.
Unvote: Vote: Tenchi
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