The Werewolves of Millers Hollow (Game Over)

[Firestarter]

Firestarter: If we can please get away from theory discussion for a bit, I'd still like you to answer this question.

VOTE 4 LYNCH: Dingoatemybaby
Enough info for me.

Why?

Originally, because you pissed me off....
It seemed certain players were refusing to see my angle, and not actually trying to help it along.

In fairness, there may have been OMGUS present in my vote for you.
But I tried hard to make this method as transparent as possible, and I came up against a brick wall.
However, with zwet's recent posts, Ive retracted that vote now.

[Firestarter]

EBWOP..

@ Yos...

Replace you with Dingo in my last post.

[zwetschenwasser]

Me? Parroting? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[MikeSC6]

What exactly have you found to be scummy in Zwet's posts?

I still don't support the "vote scum for mayor" plan-

- It would be leaving our suspicions open for a few days. We'd remain unsure of someone's scumminess for far longer than we need to, we'd have to spend the time assuming scenarios of guilt and innocence at one and the same time. We'd essentially be playing two games at once.

- We'd be committed to lynching the person we elect later on anyway to find out if what we suspected them for is true- and they'd know it. We may as well just lynch them ASAP and get what information we can sooner rather than later.

- When they do die, we'd focus too much on who they elect. It would just be pure WIFOM, whether they agree with the town choice or disagree. It would be easier for scum to implicate townies from this position.

And you voted for Dingo because he annoyed you? What did you mean by "enough info" then? You voted without having any reason to? How is this any different now that your vote's on Zwet?

[zwetschenwasser]

Exactly. He's now a psychopathic OMGUSer.

[Shadow Knight]

unvote, vote for lynch: Firestarter

After reading the scum as mayor plan, my only thoughts are:

1- WTF?
2- WTF is he smoking?
3- He must be joking.
4- Holy crap, he's not joking.
5- WTF?
6- See the first line of this post.

@firestarter- Here is a crazy idea... If

you

we find someone scummy, we'll just *lynch* them, instead of giving them more power. What the hell is wrong with you? Did you really think the town would *buy* this load of craplogic?

[zwetschenwasser]

WTF is my favorite phrase now.

[dingoatemybaby]

Well, you look scummy from a 'voting for game theory disagreement' perspective. But the countervote does look weak.

Please explain. I think it is overly simplistic to say I voted for him for "game theory disagreement". I voted for him because pushing an anti-town plan is scummy.

[dingoatemybaby]

Originally, because you pissed me off....
It seemed certain players were refusing to see my angle, and not actually trying to help it along.

In fairness, there may have been OMGUS present in my vote for you.
But I tried hard to make this method as transparent as possible, and I came up against a brick wall.
However, with zwet's recent posts, Ive retracted that vote now.

Do you actually find Zwet and/or me scummy?

[MikeSC6]

Well, Xtoxm's active in another game...

Any more information for us, Xtoxm?

[zwetschenwasser]

Rolefishing, Mike?

[Xtoxm]

No

[Yosarian2]

No

Ok then, if you're not going to tell us anything else, or play the game, or have an opinion on anything, I guess we just have to lynch you and see what happens. Looks like that's the only way we're going to get any info on you...

Vote to lynch:Xtoxm

[Yosarian2]

Note that even if you can survive a lynch, Xtoxm, you refusing to tell the town anything like this or do anything, and thus forcing us to use a lynch on you is quite anti-town.

[zwetschenwasser]

He's not forcing anything, Yos. Opportunistic much?

[Yosarian2]

He's not forcing anything, Yos. Opportunistic much?

(shrug) He claimed just enough to hurt the town, and yet is refusing to clarify, or claim flavor, or actually play the game. So, yeah, I think we pretty much are forced to lynch him unless he changes his behavior. Do you disagree?

[zwetschenwasser]

Yes.

[MikeSC6]

Rolefishing, Mike?

I was after anything he had to say- just a comment is nice... I suppose. I don't see what harm a roleclaim could do- considering he's already told us that he's unlynchable. If he really is pro-town, then that's all the scum need to know.

We've had lots of discussion about Xtoxm earlier on- where do you stand on this issue Zwet?

[zwetschenwasser]

I've said it at least three times already: DON'T LYNCH XTOXM YET

[The Fonz]

Well, you look scummy from a 'voting for game theory disagreement' perspective. But the countervote does look weak.

Please explain. I think it is overly simplistic to say I voted for him for "game theory disagreement". I voted for him because pushing an anti-town plan is scummy.

He obviously doesn't agree that the plan is antitown...

Yes.

Zwet is useless and antitown, so therefore naturally thinks that lynching useless and antitown players is a bad idea.

[zwetschenwasser]

Well, you look scummy from a 'voting for game theory disagreement' perspective. But the countervote does look weak.

Please explain. I think it is overly simplistic to say I voted for him for "game theory disagreement". I voted for him because pushing an anti-town plan is scummy.

He obviously doesn't agree that the plan is antitown...

Yes.

Zwet is useless and antitown, so therefore naturally thinks that lynching useless and antitown players is a bad idea.

Vague ignorant generalizations FTW!

[Yosarian2]

I've said it at least three times already: DON'T LYNCH XTOXM YET

Why, you'd rather let him lurk a while longer first?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

unvote for Mayor, vote Yos for Mayor

I've played a fair few games with him and he feels like town-Yos enough that I'm willing to give him the double vote, since I generally trust his instincts. It doesn't hurt that he's not stupidly opposed to an Xtoxm lynch like some peeople. I just don'ty see the agrument for not lynching him. He's made a vague claim and refuses tio give more information, he's not playing the game at all and he's generally entirely useless to us alive. At least dead, we get his role info, which will help our understanding of the set-up.

[The Fonz]

Posts which add absolutely nothing to the game ftl!

(In fairness, Zwet, you're actually contributing pretty well here. That point was somewhat tongue-in-cheek).

Btw, your claimed thought process still seems to include the notion that if the mayor is scum, we won't lynch him soon enough, whilst if he's town, we'll lynch him too soon, for basically the same behaviour.

[MikeSC6]

I've said it at least three times already: DON'T LYNCH XTOXM YET

Do you have

any

reasons at all? We can't just take your word for it.