MKM II GAME OVER

[pacman281292]

pacman, your b) is the only legit reason for not item claiming. Is there an item that won't ruin the game for us (and to answer caf, because I can't buy items,

I don't know what they do either

)

WE RECEIVE WHAT THE ITEMS DO.

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-zwetschenwasser (4): populartajo, pacman281292, AceMarksman, Shinnen_no_Me
-AceMarksman (3): caf19, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-populartajo (2): qwints, ortolan
-Shinnen_no_Me (2): Riceballtail, Surye
-Dubya (1): Shadow Knight
-Gorrad (1): Empking

Not voting (4): killa seven, Moratorium, Dubya, Cream147

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[AceMarksman]

Not characters that can't buy items.

[pacman281292]

Not characters that can't buy items.

??????
why u softclaim?

[Shinnen_no_Me]

The item idea seems good. However, there are some points we should consider it first. Wouldn't doing that give more information to the already-informed minority? And, what about players like Ace (not that I fully believe him, but that's a possibility) that don't know about the items? Or the third party players? Also, what gives us the security that the mafia doesn't know how our items operate?

I want us to consider these, and others I haven't pointed out, issues about the item claim, because we might end up giving more aid than problems to scum.

[Gorrad]

he didn't recognise his role, supposedly, as a Mario baddy. Personally, I find that nigh-impossible unless he has a named villain

So if he *had* a named bad guy role, for example "Bowser", you'd believe that he didn't recognize it? I don't know if this is just craplogic or straight up being confused about what you meant to say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_and_ ... Characters

Cackletta. A villain only found in one game. If he had this role, then I wouldn't expect him to recall it on the fly. Named villains that show up in only one game are mush harder to recall than, say, 'Bullet Bill".

As for the other two, my role PM specifically states that Bowser is dead. I assume the other MKMI deaths carry over as well.

I'm fine with item claims to reduce the pool somewhat. However, as I too cannot purchase items (and therefore do not know what they do), I'm willing to

Unvote: Ace

. I don't think that scum would know that there were roles that had that particular twist.

[Cream147]

Not characters that can't buy items.

??????
why u softclaim?

He already claimed he couldn't see the possible items.

This item questioning idea is interesting. However, it is not going to be able to 100% confirm someone's alignment, so whilst it may be worth doing it, we shouldn't use it and only it to determine what we're going to do.

[killa seven]

Hey just noticed this thread.
sup people.

[qwints]

unvote, vote killa seven

Policy lynch.

[Empking]

The flavor is posted on page one. How could anyone not know it?

Someone who hasnt read it before checking his PM, like me?

It was in the sign up thread as well.

I'd rather we dropped the item discussion.

[AceMarksman]

Oh, and why is that, empking?

[Shinnen_no_Me]

unvote, vote killa seven

Policy lynch.

Policy lynch? At this point when we have some discussion going? Or, you don't have anything to say?

[caf19]

OP says:

The information of the items you can buy will appear in your role pm

So people who can't buy items probably wouldn't get the info.

Unvote

Shin, why does tajo's question make you consider him anti-town? Is it not possible that he was asking the question purposefully to gauge people's reactions due to the unexpected alignment? Also I don't think you answered my question in 147.

[zwetschenwasser]

The flavor is posted on page one. How could anyone not know it?

Someone who hasnt read it before checking his PM, like me?

It was in the sign up thread as well.

I'd rather we dropped the item discussion.

Aha! He's nervously trying to jitterbug his way out of a scumcatching situation!

Unvote; Vote: Empking

[Empking]

The flavor is posted on page one. How could anyone not know it?

Someone who hasnt read it before checking his PM, like me?

It was in the sign up thread as well.

I'd rather we dropped the item discussion.

Aha! He's nervously trying to jitterbug his way out of a scumcatching situation!

Unvote; Vote: Empking

It won't out scum but it will out another group and actual mermbers of the town know tht.

[zwetschenwasser]

Please enlighten us as to why the item quizzing wouldn't help confirm town or catch scum?

[Shadow Knight]

Actually, I did answer. I said we could probably confirm 4 people. I disagree with item quizzing as all it does is out our power roles (or potential power roles).

[zwetschenwasser]

*facepalm* the items we would quiz on would be the ones publicly revealed in the rules in the first post, SK.

[Shadow Knight]

@zwet- and the only people who know what they do are the people

who are able to buy them

@Gorrad- my bad, I wasn't thinking of minor named characters. In that, I can see where you're coming from.

[zwetschenwasser]

Sigh. You're quite right, SK. I retract my statement.

[AceMarksman]

Do power roles have different items?

[Shadow Knight]

vote AceMarksman

Rolefishing is bad, m'kay?

[AceMarksman]

How was that rolefishing? I honestly don't know because I CAN'T BUY ITEMS. I figured law might've told the people that can buy items *shrug*

[Shadow Knight]

And if any of them step forward, the scum know who to target.

[AceMarksman]

Oh yeah, didn't think about that.

[zwetschenwasser]

Liar. Excellent rolefishing find, SK.