Open 135 - Polygamist Mafia, Incomplete/Mod Error before 775

[mykonian]

Wall-e was a doctor in that game I only have meta on doc-Wall-e. And he was not that strong as doc in that game.

[Wall-E]

hah

[zwetschenwasser]

hoh

[mykonian]

What is wrong?

[zwetschenwasser]

ji

[Archon]

-snip of super long post-

I'm always erratic. you can check my history for that confirmation.

I voted for zwet because everyone else was random voting people too. I wanted to separate myself from zwet for some reason. He's a troll, of course, and I didn't... I don;t know. I just voted for him because I wanted to. Not quite sure actually...

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that there can be no busing, and that separating ones-self from another would not be a good tactic for mafia in this setup.

[Archon]

If I had my druthers we'd kill Archon/zwets today.

Damn you! I had to go look up what druthers meant! forcing me to go and click a single mouse button... damn you.. [/sarcasm]

[Seraphim]

Vote Count:

Tenchi(1)

- Archon

zwetschenwasser(3)

- Tenchi, Jazzmyn, Wall-E

mikek(1)

- PieIsPopcorn

Archon(1)

- AceMarksman

Not Voting(6)

- Looker, Gregory, mykonian, mikek, ortolan, zwetschenwasser

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Prodding ortolan and PieIsPopcorn

Current Deadline:

April 29th, 20:00 Central Time

[AceMarksman]

What's your point?

Yes ace, what is the point. That is just subjectively pushing a case. I want clear points, not this feelings stuff.

To both of you: My point is that he is just as likely to be a lover with archon as he is a polygamist with him. Personally, I'm leaning towards the latter.

[Tenchi]

Archon PBPA:

4: Fluff on flavor; votes Zwet for some joke on Pie
5: Says he hasn't played with Zwet. And more fluff on puppies
6: Agrees to claiming.
7: Did this already:

1. Self-meta or some empty comment on sekinj, which doesn't really justify you being actively lurking on this thread.

2. More fluff

3. An unvote, which relieves pressure from zwet.

4. Fluff for Jazz

5. And more excuse to lurk.

8: Gives his schedule to defend himself on the Active Lurker accusation.

9: Reacts to AtE accusation of Zwet. No explanation.

10: Explains 9.

11: Votes for me because "I hurt him". No elaboration given

12: Tells us to wait and not to vote for Zwet.

13: Tells Ace that he's an idiot for not understanding that I'm accusing Archon of Lurking

14: Calls me and Zwet an idiot. Calls Wall-E as somebody who wants to be in the game, and that I'm in the way.

15: Ignores GregoryN saying "I didn;t even know you were in this game...". Calls me an idiot again.

16: Typo fix.

17: Fluff on Looker

18: Softclaims Lovers with "a gay troll"

19: Justifies his hostility by saying: "Did you not notice that he (Tenchi) attacked me for lurking at 12 in the morning, on a Sunday night?"

20: Admits he's scared, paired with zwet.

21: Three dots

22: Calls zwet an idiot

23: Calls himself erratic as part of his meta. Explains his Zwet vote. Notes that there could not be bussing and distancing is not viable tactics for scum at this point.

24: Fluff.

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Note these things:

1. He agreed for the mass-claim. Did not even explain why.

2. Fluffing constantly. Gives him the activity he needs to avoid being prodded and suspected of being absent-minded from the game.

3. OMGUSing me.

4. WIFOM on scum tactics: See post 23. I do believe bussing/distancing is a viable tactic in a game of association. The trick here for town is pushing bounderies to see where true alliances lie.

5. Lack of scum-hunting/voicing his suspicions. See PBPA above. Aside from calling several people idiots, and his OMGUS on me, who are his suspects?

6. Lack of association with Zwet to validate claim. I feel that as his lover, seeing Zwet under heavy suspicion, that he should have (subtly) saved him, instead of outright claiming.

7:

See Page 7.

Also an elaboration on the point above: Archon shouldn't have been shocked/confused/calling him an idiot on Zwet since they can talk about it via PM. I SMELL DISTANCING.

GUYS VOTE ARCHON

VOTE: Archon

I smell other people as the polygamists. And it's not Wall-E, Ace and Mikek.

[Tenchi]

@Tenchi: Why didn't you ask the mod to prod PieIsPopcorn? What do you think about your earlier claim Archon + zwet cannot be buddies together, now?

1. On Pie: I forgot. It was midnight here and I haven't slept for a while. :\

2. On Archon/Zwet Claim: See my previous post. I think distancing is a very viable tactic, and that's how I see Page 7 upon rereading it.

[AceMarksman]

o.O wow, that was a big wall that I never thought would come from Tenchi. + townpoints

[Tenchi]

BTW: For reference. This post (and the discussion onwards) changed my stance on distancing/bussing:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 33#1614633

[AceMarksman]

why do you not think Wall-e, mikek and I aren't polygamists

[Tenchi]

why do you not think Wall-e, mikek and I aren't polygamists

I'm rethinking that actually but they are at the bottom of my list. Wall-E for his activity. MikeK for his latest post.

[Tenchi]

You know what, I'm not going to rule out anybody entirely. I have to do more reviews.

I still stand by my Archon case above.

[Wall-E]

I read Archon town.

Unvote: Vote Tenchi

Good odds he's scum, and he's pushing a case I totally disagree with.

[Tenchi]

Which parts do you disagree with Wall-E? Elaborate.

What gives you a pro-town Archon read? Elaborate.

(Note guys I will piss off two other people we don't know if Archon is scum)

[Archon]

Archon PBPA:

4: Fluff on flavor; votes Zwet for some joke on Pie
5: Says he hasn't played with Zwet. And more fluff on puppies
6: Agrees to claiming.
7: Did this already:

1. Self-meta or some empty comment on sekinj, which doesn't really justify you being actively lurking on this thread.

2. More fluff

3. An unvote, which relieves pressure from zwet.

4. Fluff for Jazz

5. And more excuse to lurk.

You accuse me of lurking multiple times, and get all bent out of shape the moment I make an argument. you evil maniacal son of your mother.

8: Gives his schedule to defend himself on the Active Lurker accusation.

How else was I suposed to save myself!? You wanted an answer, I gave you one.

9: Reacts to AtE accusation of Zwet. No explanation.

I didn't need to explain anything because I had nothing to explain

10: Explains 9.

11: Votes for me because "I hurt him". No elaboration given

Your reasonings. You stated on the post quoted inside this one that "I could have used the time posting to help the game" whilst you were the one who attacked me in teh first place for lurking in the middle of the night. also, that schedule was the entire weekend. not friday.

12: Tells us to wait and not to vote for Zwet.

13: Tells Ace that he's an idiot for not understanding that I'm accusing Archon of Lurking

Of course he's being dumb. YOU ATTACKED ME FOR LURKING AT 12AM ON A SUNDAY NIGHT! anyone who can't understand that I was asleep is out of their mind!

14: Calls me and Zwet an idiot. Calls Wall-E as somebody who wants to be in the game, and that I'm in the way.

15: Ignores GregoryN saying "I didn;t even know you were in this game...". Calls me an idiot again.

And yet you completley cut out me answering your post right here.

16: Typo fix.

17: Fluff on Looker

18: Softclaims Lovers with "a gay troll"

19: Justifies his hostility by saying: "Did you not notice that he (Tenchi) attacked me for lurking at 12 in the morning, on a Sunday night?"

20: Admits he's scared, paired with zwet.

OF COURSE I AM! I'm pared with a troll that makes everyone want to vote him!

21: Three dots

22: Calls zwet an idiot

23: Calls himself erratic as part of his meta. Explains his Zwet vote. Notes that there could not be bussing and distancing is not viable tactics for scum at this point.

24: Fluff.

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Note these things:

1. He agreed for the mass-claim. Did not even explain why.

Aparently everyhting must be spelt out to you. I am in for claiming because it will tell us who is with whom, thus saying that when we lynch one person, we will know who the other person who will die will be.

2. Fluffing constantly. Gives him the activity he needs to avoid being prodded and suspected of being absent-minded from the game.

How dare I act human!

3. OMGUSing me.

An OMGUS driven attack, with points, mind you.

4. WIFOM on scum tactics: See post 23. I do believe bussing/distancing is a viable tactic in a game of association. The trick here for town is pushing bounderies to see where true alliances lie.

5. Lack of scum-hunting/voicing his suspicions. See PBPA above. Aside from calling several people idiots, and his OMGUS on me, who are his suspects?

I'm scum hunting you, idiot!

6. Lack of association with Zwet to validate claim. I feel that as his lover, seeing Zwet under heavy suspicion, that he should have (subtly) saved him, instead of outright claiming.

Nothing I do is orthodox.

7:

See Page 7.

Also an elaboration on the point above: Archon shouldn't have been shocked/confused/calling him an idiot on Zwet since they can talk about it via PM. I SMELL DISTANCING.

I have used pillow talk once. I'm not a big fan of it, and I have nothing to say.

GUYS VOTE ARCHON

A blantant try to attack a person with a good record has failed. see Wall-E's post.

VOTE: Archon

I smell other people as the polygamists. And it's not Wall-E, Ace and Mikek.

Big things jump at me from this post. The first of which is that Techni is trying to put his foot on the ceiling, and get it to stay. He can't find a case for me, and completely ignores the answers to the questions he poses at me.

He is also attempting to get a bandwagon going on minimal evidence. Also, he can't understand the meaning of "busy," as well as the fact that I have for multiple times tried to explain both the meaning and why I am so.

Techni is the scummiest person I have ever felt vibes from, to the point that I even have begun to scum hunt and investigate.

Read my posts, and you will se that I never, ever scum hunt.

Techni needs to die

And just in case,

unvote
vote techni

[Archon]

Now would be a good time to claim, Techni.

[Archon]

According to Techni, I should be lynched because "2. Fluffing constantly. Gives him the activity he needs to avoid being prodded and suspected of being absent-minded from the game."

Lets look at Techni, shall we?

POST 4; Fluff about orgies and confirm
POST 31; Fluff about california
POST 32; EBWOP
POST 58; acknowledges, with fluffy emotion, a vote casted for him, which is quite unneeded
POST 63; Asks a question, argues against claiming, fluffs.
POST 70; Random votes pie
POST 74-77; Fluff about emotion, AGAIN acknowledges another vote against him, multi posts four times, with none of the posts exceeding 10 words, prods someone.
POST 84; tries to say that everything was a plot of some sorts, refuses to respond to Zwet.
POST 88; I have no idea what he is saying...
POST 98; Grabs attention, complains of slow game speed, randomly votes Zwet. [Even on Page four, he is trying to extend the random voting stage.]
POST 103; Grabs attention saying "NO CLAIMING PLEASE K THX!" and follows it with no reasons.
POST 105-108; Re-votes Zwet, asks about Sekinj, Fluff.


I'm stopping here.

Has anyone noticed that the same stuff he is atacking me for, OMGUS voting, lack of scum hunting and fluffing he has been doing too?

Techni is a hypocrite. a terrible, scummy hypocrite.

[mykonian]

-snip of super long post-

I'm always erratic. you can check my history for that confirmation.

I hate this kind of defence

I voted for zwet because everyone else was random voting people too. I wanted to separate myself from zwet for some reason. He's a troll, of course, and I didn't... I don;t know. I just voted for him because I wanted to. Not quite sure actually...

okay... why would town distance? You know he is town! it is just as bad as a selfvote

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that there can be no busing, and that separating ones-self from another would not be a good tactic for mafia in this setup.

Town wouldn't do it either, wouldn't even think about it.

vote Archon

This post is as scummy as it gets. I would like Looker to say something about it too, if he wants.

[Tenchi]

Before I say anything else, I want all people to respond to my proposal.

Also, NO CLAIMING until everyone responds.

[mikek]

Archon made a lousy case on me. I deemed his reasons worthless precisely because he's my lover pair.

I voted for zwet because everyone else was random voting people too.

I wanted to separate myself from zwet for some reason

. He's a troll, of course, and I didn't... I don;t know. I just voted for him because I wanted to. Not quite sure actually...

What I don't understand is, if you are a lover pair, why you would want to distance or make cases on one another at all? You have both claimed that bussing and distancing are not good mafia tactics in this set-up. However it seems to me that scum would want to be distanced from (two of) their scum partners. Isn't that so?

Can you explain why a lover pair would want to distance from one another? Who is more likely to distance: a lover pair, or two of the scum?

GUYS VOTE ARCHON

I don't think rushing to lynch is pro-town. We have only been playing a week, and have two weeks until deadline.

On Archon/Zwet Claim: See my previous post. I think distancing is a very viable tactic, and that's how I see Page 7 upon rereading it.

Maybe.

I read Archon town.

Unvote: Vote Tenchi

Good odds he's scum, and he's pushing a case I totally disagree with.

Why good odds? Reasons please.

You've totally cleared Archon/zwet in your mind? Why? Please give your reasons.

(Note guys I will piss off two other people we don't know if Archon is scum)

Are you telling us to be suspicious of people defending Archon/zwet being their scum partners? Well, maybe, but this is confirmation bias somewhat, isn't it? Also slightly OMGUS-y as you just got voted by such a person.

Big things jump at me from this post. The first of which is that Techni is trying to put his foot on the ceiling, and get it to stay. He can't find a case for me, and completely ignores the answers to the questions he poses at me.

I think there is a case on you, but it's not yet convincing enough for me to vote for you. However, dismissing the case as totally baseless is not working in your favor, in my eyes. The opposite, in fact.

Techni needs to die

Again, don't try and rush us here. We have plenty of time to deliberate. Trying to convince people it's imperative that we lynch right now is not pro-town.

Now would be a good time to claim, Techni.

No, it wouldn't! Claiming after one week, when nobody is in immediate danger of being lynched, is NOT good for town!

Before I say anything else, I want all people to respond to my proposal.

Which proposal?

[zwetschenwasser]

I can't really comment on the Archon case besides it being a total misrep.