Monty Python Quest for the holy grail, GAME OVER!!!

[Dragon Slayer]

If it wasn't a group effort then I think there would have been a lot of other things we'd notice up until now because they each would have been annoying a seperate person.

-DS

[Saigon]

It doesn't seem like this going anywhere

As I see it we only have two choices now. Either people start voicing their suspicions, or we start random voting again... on day 4

Even though I don't like it, I think I'll random vote someone if I don't see anyone voicing any reasonable suspicions within a day or two. As it is, this game is going nowhere.

[mathcam]

I too would like to hear specifics of how the Knights work, though this is of course a judgment call on their behalf. As long as we're not endangering the usefuless of any of their abilities, anything we can do to find out more about how this game works is good.

Cam

[Night Stalker]

I'm not convinced the Knights who say Ni are totally pro-town either. Then again, they haven't been kiling people off every night.

Sorry I vanished for the better part of a week. I just read through the last four pages praying I wasn't going to be lynched for being inactive.

[mathcam]

Are you suggesting some kind of other win condition? I'm not sure how likely it is that Macros would put something like that in his game.

Cam

[Night Stalker]

Maybe they have to find a shrubbery?

[Fishbulb]

Roger the Shrubber... He arranges, designs, and sells shrubberies.

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can 'Ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history."

[Dragon Slayer]

"Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can 'Ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history."

I love this game.

[massive]

unvote bane 221
vote Night Stalker

Three reasons:

(1) tried to push forth the idea that a second Mafia (the three-headed giant specifically) was ridiculous (before God was killed);

(2) refused to jump on either bandwagon (one of which was God) despite the impending threat of deadline on Day One (page 6);

(3) attempted to push suspicion onto the Knights Who Say Ni as an anti-town possibility.

[mathcam]

Wow, reasons on a bandwagon. That's new. I like it.

Unvote: bane221, Vote: Night Stalker

Cam

[Werebear]

Re: The Nights of Noo! (er, Ni!) I highly doubt their finding Roger would end the game. Maybe it will give them abilities, pro-town, anti-town, I don't know.

[Dragon Slayer]

Yeah those are reasons, but personally I don't find them very implicating. If he were really scum then I'd think he would have put his votes on the previous bandwagons towards the end of the deadline because he'd want to
1) try to pretend he wasn't affiliated with the scum that was about to get lynched or
2) Say "Well I guess so, since there since to be a consensus" and therefore help lynch an innocent without getting blamed for it.

As for saying that the Nights who say Ni are bad for good, I don't see how this makes him evil. I thought we were debating this topic. Maybe he knows something we don't or simply that he has his own opinion on it.

Finally, when he opposed the idea of having a second mafia, although I think it's strange to think that he would think this couldn't be possible, I don't see it as a move a scum would make.

I just don't see any good reason in those reasons as to why we should bandwagon him. It's just not convincing enough.

-DS

[massive]

Well, no one else seemed to have any good ideas ... that's where I was at. Take it for what it's worth.

Also, and this wasn't included - more often than not, NS's posts are nothing to look at, just looking to say "I'm here" more than anything ... page 7, "nothing of substance to add" ... page 12, "[nothing] worthwhile to say" ... then nothing until the "villainous" comment about the Knights of Ni on page 15 ... then again nothing until he re-iterates his beliefs on the Knights on this page.

It just smells anti-helpful to me, and that usually means "I'm hiding out hoping no one will notice." Maybe someone who has played with NS and has some idea of his usual style can speak up.

[Fishbulb]

I don't know, massive. In most games I would agree, but this one has been vacant of any real discussions most of the time. The majority of the people here are doing just what you are saying, but it's not because of scumminess, it's just because no one is giving up any info.

[Werebear]

If noone else posts anything, I'm going after a quiet one.

[Saigon]

I don't know, massive. In most games I would agree, but this one has been vacant of any real discussions most of the time. The majority of the people here are doing just what you are saying, but it's not because of scumminess, it's just because no one is giving up any info.

yep, That's why I'm gonna *rolls dice*

randomvote: Dragon Slayer

Congratulations DS you're the lucky winner

What has the world come to? Being forced to place a random vote on day 4, tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Orbiting]

I'll play the bandwagon game, in absence of info on Night Stalker -

unvote: God, vote: Night Stalker

[mathcam]

DS is still second in line at the top of my supsicious list, and now he's defending the person who has recently wrestled away his title? Sounds pretty good to me. My vote stays.

Cam

[Dragon Slayer]

OMGUS FOS

Saigon

- there's no way that vote was random. And even so- you don't random vote now. That's total crap.

[Saigon]

Believe me Dragon Slayer, I promise that was a completely random vote.

At this point I thought that people have nothing to come with and we have to randomvote, or maybe it would get people to talk. I guess I'll change my vote to Night Stalker if he gets one more vote. As I see it I only have 4 choices.

1. Vote Nightstalker, and we might just get another innocent to roleclaim.

2. Vote Mathcam, and nothing would happen because nobody seems to agree with my reasons for suspecting him. (I don't think he's very suspicios, but neither are the rest of you, so he's topping MY suspicious list)

3. Not vote, and nothing would happen, atleast nothing I contributed to.

4. Random vote, and maybe we get someone to defend themselves in a scummy way or whatever, atleast something happens.

But like I said I'll change my vote to Nightstalker if he gets another vote, atleast we'll keep the game moving, and I don't find him any less suspicious than any one else either so I guess it can't be worse than a random vote.

The problem is that there isn't really a right thing to do. I'm at a complete loss, but I don't want the game to stagnate

[Loose Cannon]

Vote: Night Stalker

Let's put a little pressure on. Actually, I'm just voting for him so that this game keeps moving (and the fact that there are reasons for the bandwagon).

[bane221]

I'd like to hear something from Night Stalker if we are going to mount anything against him and/or her. Timer started (insert incessant ticking sound)

[Macros]

4 Night Stalker (Massive, Mathcam, Orbiting, Loose Cannon)
1 Dragon Slayer (Saigon)
1 Wacky (DB)
1 Orbiting (God)

[mathcam]

But like I said I'll change my vote to Nightstalker if he gets another vote

How odd...you don't want to put the 4th vote on Night Stalker, but you'll put the 5th? Basically, you'll continue the bandwagon only if it's inevitable? If Night Stalker's evil, I'm going to be looking pretty hard in your direction. Oh, and in DS's. Good thing I have two eyes.

Cam

[Night Stalker]

I know we're grasping at straws here in general, but the "evidence" against me isn't much evidence at all. Most of it either either misreading my posts, or contradicts each other.

(1) tried to push forth the idea that a second Mafia (the three-headed giant specifically) was ridiculous (before God was killed);

Wrong. Read my post again:

I'm betting the Knights who say Nee! are a mason group. Or maybe even a cult. We have at least 3 killing roles already (if the Black Knight is around - and how could he not be - he might be a killing role too). A second mafia is just pushing it...

I'm not saying that the giant isn't evil - I counted him (them?) as a killing group! I was saying that the Knights who say Ni probably weren't a mafia too.

(2) refused to jump on either bandwagon (one of which was God) despite the impending threat of deadline on Day One (page 6);

So I'm probably mafia for not trying to kill people? That makes sense how? For that matter, if I was in cahoots with god, I would have just voted for the other bandwagon. (For that matter, the counterbandwagon might be a good place to look for the other heads.)

And once again, you seem to be either missing (or deliberately misrepresenting) a crucial point. On page 6, where I said I dislike first day bandwagons - there was no deadline yet! There was no deadline until page 8, 7 realtime days later!

(3) attempted to push suspicion onto the Knights Who Say Ni as an anti-town possibility.

Ok, so in (1) I'm suspect for saying the Knights who say Ni may not neccesarily be evil - and now I'm suspect for saying that they may not neccesarily be good either? I can't win by you, massive, can I?

More often than not, NS's posts are nothing to look at, just looking to say "I'm here" more than anything ... page 7, "nothing of substance to add" ... page 12, "[nothing] worthwhile to say" ... then nothing until the "villainous" comment about the Knights of Ni on page 15 ... then again nothing until he re-iterates his beliefs on the Knights on this page.

So now either I'm suspicious for putting forward ideas - or I'm suspicious for not putting forward ideas. What ever I do, I must be guilty in your book.

I know I'm not the only one who feels like there's not much to go on. Heck, you've alluded to as much yourself. Admitting that fact makes me scum?

Want to see my typical style? Checkout mini 50, or Mafia 8 over at Brunchma - I tend not to post unless I have something worthwhile to say, (like now), unless people start calling me 'inactive' - since I am reading and paying attention. I'm also very hesitant to vote for people unless I'm pretty convinced they're anti-town (aside from OMGUS), and I try to avoid mindless and near mindless bandwagons.

Now, I'm tempted to OMGUS vote massive for repeatedly misrepresenting me and contradicting himself, but he's obviously done at least a bit of research, and I'm hesitant to kill someone who's willing to take the effort to comb through old posts. But the "evidence" against me is no evidence at all.