MKM II GAME OVER

[populartajo]

-ortolan (5): populartajo, Shadow Knight, AceMarksman, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-Shadow Knight (5): Moratorium, ortolan, Looker, qwints, semioldguy

Mora, you think one of these guys is scum and the other is town?

I haven't ruled it out.

You suggested one wagon was scumdriven, right?

If you are haopoy with your vote, that means that you think ortolan is a scum-driven wagon, right?

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-ortolan (5): populartajo, Shadow Knight, AceMarksman, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-Shadow Knight (5): Moratorium, ortolan, Looker, qwints, semioldguy
-Looker (1): caf19
-Gorrad (1): Empking

Not voting (5): killa seven, WeyounsLastClone, Cream147, ZEEnon, Riceballtail

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch. Deadline: May 4th 2009.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Is Ort right?

I hate self-quoting... What do you mean with this question?

[WeyounsLastClone]

two

That's not what I make it. Either you are scum or misunderstood the question, which is possible because it is slightly open to interpretation. Perhaps this will help: Is the poison shroom one of the 'two' in your answer?

If you're going to ask the questions you should definitely pay more attention and avoid coming up with ambiguous ones. The poison shroom is not one, however if you read the text of the first and second items, the text of the second item implies that this applies to the first item (as well as the last one)

Please can you be more concise and less ambiguous?
Can we ask him another question?

I think Ortolan explained clearly enough what he's talking about. Explaining more concise and less ambigious would give scum more information than necessary. I think the question by caf19 was bad enough for town to start with.

[Moratorium]

-ortolan (5): populartajo, Shadow Knight, AceMarksman, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-Shadow Knight (5): Moratorium, ortolan, Looker, qwints, semioldguy

Mora, you think one of these guys is scum and the other is town?

I haven't ruled it out.

You suggested one wagon was scumdriven, right?

If you are haopoy with your vote, that means that you think ortolan is a scum-driven wagon, right?

Yes, that's what I said here...

When I look at the ortolan wagon, I see three votes from people I'm not confident in.

[caf19]

Regarding vagueness of questions, it's to stop giving too much info to scum. If a townie asks an obvious question and another townie gives the answer, it's easy for scum to work out item mechanics. Even if there is some confusion over question meanings, as there has been, it's usually possible to discern whether the answerer is telling the truth through the way they handle this (which, again, is largely what happened here).

Anyway, I'm not particularly fond of an ortolan lynch today. Can someone sum up the case on Shadow Knight for me? (or link me to a summary, if there is one already and I missed it in all the activity).

[Shadow Knight]

As far as I can tell, the case on me is that a- I'm voting ortolan and b- the vote is based on a gut hunch, not a specific instance of scumminess.

[Empking]

Is Ort right?

I hate self-quoting... What do you mean with this question?

I meant was Ort right.

Unvote

Vote: Ort

[populartajo]

-ortolan (5): populartajo, Shadow Knight, AceMarksman, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-Shadow Knight (5): Moratorium, ortolan, Looker, qwints, semioldguy

Mora, you think one of these guys is scum and the other is town?

I haven't ruled it out.

You suggested one wagon was scumdriven, right?

If you are haopoy with your vote, that means that you think ortolan is a scum-driven wagon, right?

Yes, that's what I said here...

When I look at the ortolan wagon, I see three votes from people I'm not confident in.

I assume SK, zwet and Gorrad?

[populartajo]

Is Ort right?

I hate self-quoting... What do you mean with this question?

I meant was Ort right.

Unvote

Vote: Ort

Wait what?

[ortolan]

If you say that one version of an item cannot be redirected, then this implies that the other version can

Some people very much need grey matter, or need to stop being scum, and unvote me.

[caf19]

If you say that one version of an item cannot be redirected, then this implies that the other version can

That's not the part of your reasoning I found to be wrong...

[populartajo]

If you say that one version of an item cannot be redirected, then this implies that the other version can

Some people very much need grey matter, or need to stop being scum, and unvote me.

No need to be a douchebag.

Unvote

You are going to send me a letter tonight with the value of "x" where "x" is the times the bomb can be passed without triggering. Everyone agrees with this?

[populartajo]

Vote : ShadowKnight

[populartajo]

Also, SK you might consider claiming since we dont know how many votes you REALLY have and you could be close to a lynch.

[caf19]

You are going to send me a letter tonight with the value of "x" where "x" is the times the bomb can be passed without triggering. Everyone agrees with this?

I approve of this product and/or service

[ortolan]

^^ it is blatantly obvious I know what bowser's castle items descriptions are. I have made copious references to them

Both semioldguy and populartajo were in fact amusingly wrong about the bomb question, also, which makes me laugh @ their attempts to confirm people. Neither of their answers were correct.

Which of the following can trigger the Bob-omb:
a. First person you give it to No
b. Number of times given No
c. Triggered by voting No
d. Holding or not holding another item No
e Passing it to certain player(s) No
f. Time elapsed No
g. Number of players passed to Yes
h. Bob-omb cannot be triggered (only used) No
i. None of the above

a. First person you give it to No
b. Number of times given Yes
c. Triggered by voting No
d. Holding or not holding another item No
e Passing it to certain player(s) No
f. Time elapsed Yes
g. Number of players passed to No
h. Bob-omb cannot be triggered (only used) No
i. None of the above

Now, those (previously) voting me need to clarify if it is due to being scum or the aforementioned reason of lacking grey matter. I'd say the split is probably 4/1 or 3/2 at present (how am I a more appealing lynch than ShadowKnight exactly???? Thankfully the redirection of votes to another player, me, for

no

reason makes my read on ShadowKnight even more likely to be correct.)

That's not the part of your reasoning I found to be wrong...

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I will enjoy telling you, why you're wrong, after the game. The answer is two. Read your role pm again.

You are going to send me a letter tonight with the value of "x" where "x" is the times the bomb can be passed without triggering. Everyone agrees with this?

No, I'm not, especially not after this post. Either way I've blatantly proven I have the item descriptions. I'm not indulging incompetent play (not from you specifically).

[populartajo]

I think the correct answer is 3 but I agree that the question is ambiguous.

And, dont be a douchebag, ortolan. Not all the people voting for you are scum or retarded. First, you refused to colaborate with a plan that is improving the town's odds of winning. You thought I was scum for that. How does that work?

Now you joined opur plan to prevent your lynch. You NOW are going to work under our rules.

[ortolan]

No, I'm not, and stop being blatantly scummy and trying to waste my coins when I've proven I have the item descriptions or I'll vote you.

[Shadow Knight]

You want a claim? Fine. I'm a Bubble Goomba.

[populartajo]

Please post a pic.

[ortolan]

what are your abilities/flavour etc?

[populartajo]

No, I'm not, and stop being blatantly scummy and trying to waste my coins when I've proven I have the item descriptions or I'll vote you.

Ill give you a coin if you are worried about coins.
And Im not being scummy, Im just trying to confirm you.
The answers you gave are wrong.

[populartajo]

f. Time elapsed Yes

WTF?

[ortolan]

I don't think I can take this much longer. There are multiple triggers for the bob-omb, one of them relates to in-game "time". I knew you were both wrong without even having to re-check my role pm.

[Shadow Knight]

I'm a goomba in a bubble. If my bubble is popped by an invader, I act like a normal goomba. I'm assuming that means I might gain abilities after I've been nightkilled once, but it might mean nothing.

I don't know how to post a picture.