Mini 757 - South Park Mafia (Game Over)

[Wall-E]

Why again are we lynching the claimed and uncontested role-blocker?

I simply require a lot more convincing, sorry. Empking's very hard for me to 'read.'

[Empking]

My opinion: I'm not convinced by Emp's claim in isolation. That he would have blocked me is somewhat unlikely, and his explanation (that I looked more town D2 than D1) is not backed up by his previous posts. When he was asked about his opinion of me, he didn't mention it all and just mentioned in a general sense that I looked town. There isn't really anything in his posts to make me believe him.

mykonian's opinion makes me pause for thought though, I hadn't really considered that. If dej was roleblocked as Zazie implies, however, it means that either

a) Emp is a town RB, and there is a separate scum RB who blocked Dej. (and then he got killed anyway)
b) Emp is lying scum.

While a) is possible, it seems a lot less likely than b). Emp is a good lynch today. He's probably better than Zazie as a lynch anyway - if Zazie is scum lying about her info, we can catch her in the lie tomorrow.

Vote Empking

L-1.

No need for Zazie to fullclaim for now.

There is when you're voting me due to Zaz's absurd claim.

Caf, do you agree that your early day 2 posting were different from your late day one posting.

[ZazieR]

I don't want you to claim anything you feel you shouldn't. Stop trying to make us play for you! The comment about grammar was supposed to be directed at myconian. My vote for you is NOT rolefishing. If you read the posts I've made you'll see the reason for my vote.

There are players who want to know more. And I'm of the opinion that it's not needed. That's why I'll only tell IF majority wants me to. I don't tink it's good for me to claim, but there are many players 'insisting' that I do.

[ZazieR]

Power roles don't know why they can perform their action, and making sweet-loving towards children?! How can anyone believe this claim?

The power roles in this game do.

No, they don't.

[ZazieR]

yes, this is completely fishing, and in the most obvious way. Nice omgus BTW. You claimed to know something, crumbed that a bit. So now we know that you know, but don't know what you know. It is a bit annoying.

Thanks for admitting that you're fishing.
Anyway, I've told what I know. Dejkha did not use his action last night. What exactly do you want to know? I might tell you if possible and/or if I think it's good for others to know.

[ZazieR]

Why again are we lynching the claimed and uncontested role-blocker?

I simply require a lot more convincing, sorry. Empking's very hard for me to 'read.'

Because he's lying. Besides, scum can have a roleblocker, while town doesn't.

[Empking]

Why again are we lynching the claimed and uncontested role-blocker?

I simply require a lot more convincing, sorry. Empking's very hard for me to 'read.'

Because he's lying. Besides, scum can have a roleblocker, while town doesn't.

Wow what role do you have where you can tell who's roleblocked and what factions have a roleblock.

Unvote
Vote: Zaz

The role she's half claiming is ridiculous and she refuses to claim further.

[ZazieR]

^^Misrep (or misunderstanding what ever it may be)
Never said that Dejkha got roleblocked, and I said that scum can have a roleblocker as scum roleblockers exist.

I didn't want to claim, because I don't support claims that are made before L-1. But as I'm now at L-1, I'm Mr. Garrison. I may target a player during the night to find out if that player used a night action. I targeted Dejkha night 1 and learned that he did not perform an action.

Can we now lynch Empking?

[Empking]

So Zaz you deny making this post?

while town doesn't.

Zaz, what's your role name (Cop, Doc ect)?

[ZazieR]

In that post, I'm saying that it's possible that in set-ups that town doesn't have a roleblocker, while scum does. It was a general statement.

Due to that question, I know for certain that you're scum. Because my role PM does not have a role name in it. Let's lynch this liar already.

[Empking]

In that post, I'm saying that it's possible that in set-ups that town doesn't have a roleblocker, while scum does. It was a general statement.

Because he's lying. Besides, scum can have a roleblocker, while town doesn't.

That's the full post, you're saying that scum can have a roleblocker but town doesn't. That's not talking in general.

That's saying you apperently have information proving that town doesn't have a roleblocker.

Due to that question, I know for certain that you're scum. Because my role PM does not have a role name in it. Let's lynch this liar already.

Nor does mine. I want to know your role.

[ZazieR]

Can somebody please explain to me how I'm saying here that scum in this set-up have a roleblocker, while town doesn't:

Because he's lying. Besides, scum can have a roleblocker, while town doesn't.

Because I'm clearly not saying that.

Nor does mine. I want to know your role.

I may target a player during the night to find out if that player used a night action. I targeted Dejkha night 1 and learned that he did not perform an action.

If you're not asking this, then what are you asking?

[Empking]

Can somebody please explain to me how I'm saying here that scum in this set-up have a roleblocker, while town doesn't:

Because he's lying. Besides, scum can have a roleblocker, while town doesn't.

Because I'm clearly not saying that.

When did anyone say you said scum have a roleblocker?

Nor does mine. I want to know your role.

I may target a player during the night to find out if that player used a night action. I targeted Dejkha night 1 and learned that he did not perform an action.

If you're not asking this, then what are you asking?

Role names are less ambiguous.

Zaz; Why did you target Dej?

[ZazieR]

Wow what role do you have where you can tell who's roleblocked and what factions have a roleblock.

You perhaps didn't say that I said that scum have a roleblocker, but as I said that it's possible that town doesn't have one, I assume that you're saying that I know that scum have a roleblocker.

Role names are less ambiguous.

Why are you saying this?

Zaz; Why did you target Dej?

Because he was the only one of which I was certain that he had a powerrole at that time. Besides, due to the question DDD and Spolium had asked about his role, I was thinking that scum might try to get him killed, while giving the impression that he used his action.

[Empking]

Wow what role do you have where you can tell who's roleblocked and what factions have a roleblock.

You perhaps didn't say that I said that scum have a roleblocker, but as I said that it's possible that town doesn't have one, I assume that you're saying that I know that scum have a roleblocker.

That's a lie.

You said scum doesn't have a roleblocker.

Role names are less ambiguous.

Why are you saying this?

To work out what role you have.

Zaz; Why did you target Dej?

Because he was the only one of which I was certain that he had a powerrole at that time. Besides, due to the question DDD and Spolium had asked about his role, I was thinking that scum might try to get him killed, while giving the impression that he used his action.

Why would thery do that?

[ZazieR]

That's a lie.

You said scum doesn't have a roleblocker.

ORLY? Where?

To work out what role you have.

How?

Why would thery do that?

Look at your QT and afterwards you can tell me.

[Empking]

That's a lie.

You said scum doesn't have a roleblocker.

ORLY? Where?

Sorry my mistake. You said town.

To work out what role you have.

How?

By you telling it to me.

Why would thery do that?

Look at your QT and afterwards you can tell me.

You tell me.

[mykonian]

My opinion: I'm not convinced by Emp's claim in isolation. That he would have blocked me is somewhat unlikely, and his explanation (that I looked more town D2 than D1) is not backed up by his previous posts. When he was asked about his opinion of me, he didn't mention it all and just mentioned in a general sense that I looked town. There isn't really anything in his posts to make me believe him.

mykonian's opinion makes me pause for thought though, I hadn't really considered that. If dej was roleblocked as Zazie implies, however, it means that either

a) Emp is a town RB, and there is a separate scum RB who blocked Dej. (and then he got killed anyway)
b) Emp is lying scum.

While a) is possible, it seems a lot less likely than b). Emp is a good lynch today. He's probably better than Zazie as a lynch anyway - if Zazie is scum lying about her info, we can catch her in the lie tomorrow.

Vote Empking

L-1.

No need for Zazie to fullclaim for now.

You DID read why empking was most likely not scum roleblocker, and just like Wall-e said, do you really try to get a town PR lynched by something zazie IMPLYED? No way...

unvote vote Caf19

[ZazieR]

Sorry my mistake. You said town.

I said that it's possible that town doesn't have a roleblocker, while scum does.

By you telling it to me.

I've already said what my role is. I can't tell you the name, as it isn't given which is something you should know when looking at your claim.

You tell me.

Not possible as you already know.

[ZazieR]

You DID read why empking was most likely not scum roleblocker, and just like Wall-e said, do you really try to get a town PR lynched by something zazie IMPLYED? No way...

unvote vote Caf19

Bad posting. Today's lynch is either me or Empking.

[mykonian]

and this is a weird pr claim from zazie... of course, it fits very well.

or it solves her problems...

[Empking]

Sorry my mistake. You said town.

I said that it's possible that town doesn't have a roleblocker, while scum does.

No you said town doesn't.

By you telling it to me.

I've already said what my role is. I can't tell you the name, as it isn't given which is something you should know when looking at your claim.

If you actually had the role you claimed you wouldn't need the role name given to you.

You tell me.

Not possible as you already know.

No you supposedly picked Dejhka for a reason. I want to know why you thought the reason was likely.

[mykonian]

Zazie, I'm not going to be blind for totally bad actions from scum around that.

On this moment, Empking has very little against him, because his claim makes little sense as scum roleblocker. Your claim is... well, I don't want to lynch you for it yet.

and there is caf, who puts someone, who he knows the reasoning that that person is most likely not scum, at L-1, because someone implied something...

That is as scummy as it gets. No hard prove, just: she said something like that, and now we are going to lynch a PR.

[ZazieR]

No you said town doesn't.

I said that it's possible for town not to have a roleblocker in a set-up, while scum have one. What don't you understand about this?
Can you also tell me, if this is important to you? If so why?

If you actually had the role you claimed you wouldn't need the role name given to you.

The role PM doesn't have a role name. You know this. Slip?

No you supposedly picked Dejhka for a reason. I want to know why you thought the reason was likely.

A claimed powerrole who can protect everyone for one night, while sacrificing himself. If he could choose when to use this, wouldn't he be a threat to the scum? That's why it's likely.

[ZazieR]

On this moment, Empking has very little against him, because his claim makes little sense as scum roleblocker. Your claim is... well, I don't want to lynch you for it yet.

He's lying as I've already pointed out, and I don't think he'd tell the truth if he's the scum roleblocker.
From the looks of the discussion between me and Empking, you should be able to figure out that both of us can't have a town powerrole. So one of us is lying. Caf may have had a stupid reason to you, but one of me and Empking is scum. This means that we can have one scum lynched for sure in two days. If caf is town, and if me and Empking resume this tomorrow, it will only cause trouble for town. So pick!