caf19 (991) wrote:I'm not really a fan of the tajo wagon, he's too much of an easy target. (and so is zwet, you might respond, except that nobody is going after zwet...)
I strongly disagree that tajo is an easy target. He is getting nowhere near the number of votes I'd like for exactly the same reason SK got lynched.
He is continually saying things to the effect of:
tajo (998) wrote:Ortolan just feels off and Im pretty sure he is scum.
I know for a fact he doesn't use such poor (well actually, non-existent) reasoning when town and therefore I still see a strong indication he is scum. I'm also entirely sure he's familiar with the mafia dictum that saying you have an opinion on someone solely because of "gut" is brazenly scummy because it prevents you having to justify exactly why you find someone scummy, thereby avoiding accountability for your actions.
Mora (1005) wrote:A flipped scum attempted to paint four particular players as scum very early on in the game, just as a passing comment. As there's little reason to bus so many scumbuddies that early, I would tend to believe those four players are more townie on average, based on that statement.
Which post was this and who did he point to?
I am thinking I may have been somewhat tunnelly towards Gorrad. I too would definitely like some contribution from sirdanilot. The act of insisting sirdanilot tell us why he's here is itself not scummy (I think I reacted to the vote moreso). As Kast points out, he may have a bit of a kooky meta.
tajo (1019) wrote:I agree it failed to confim townies but it didnt fail to catch scum, ya know?
It only caught scum insofar as it created an atmosphere of general town-fail where SK thought he could slip in and vote me for bad reasons. Unfortunately, it backfired. The actual thing that caught scum was the bandwagon against him started by Moratorium and boosted by me and all the other wagoners.
zwet's argument that SK deliberately claimed not to have the item descriptions, then get lynched in order to validate tajo's plan is clearly retarded. For a start tajo didn't even want to get the scumbag lynched, he wanted to get me lynched (then Looker LuL). Just because this argument is crap though does not preclude zwet being correct in that tajo is scum.
zwet clearly did try to cite an ongoing game which was disallowed by the mod. I think articulacy is holding him back here, hence having to rely on Mora's portrayal of his case. I do not think he is scum. ~Argh as of the last page I am revisiting this due to the retarded-even-for-zwet claim that tajo is scum for describing the Wario role to him. More on zwet later.
Kast (1057) wrote:I'm getting a mixed but mostly pro-town read on Tajo.
Please elucidate on this.
tajo (1058) wrote: Look, ort is off, relaly off and Im not sure why some people are missing this. I hope that as the game progresses, people are going to realize this.
Here he goes again. Compare to SK's "Hehe I got a bit of gut-read on ortolan here, but nothing I can put my finger on", or words to that effect. Do you notice any similarities between tajo and the already flipped scummy-wummy?
I think WeyounsLastClone may also be trying to signpost the fact he himself is scum in 1064.
WeyounsLastClone (1064) wrote:At first I found Gorrad a bit overanxious to hear from sirdan, but now his silence is a bit awkward (not that I have posted much, but I think it's different from someone who joined from outside the game). Still, I find Gorrad's reactions a bit off.
Nice equivocating and trying to paint both of them as scummy simultaneously.
WeyounsLastClone (1064) wrote:I don't think tajo is from the Mushroom Kingdom, and I don't really like his wagon. Somehow I suspect him to be Wario or something.
You suspect he is a third party...yet you don't like his wagon???
WeyounsLastClone (1064) wrote:caf19 wrote:I know about his meta and the shallow waters blah blah, but seriously, zwet is scummy. Now that he's not 'confirmed' anymore , I can't help but note that he is 'playing up' to his meta. He is tunneling with woefully inadequate reasoning, purposefully exaggerating the aggressiveness and dumbness of his posts in order that people will go 'oh, it's just zwet being zwet'. And it seems to be working - a decent wagon is building up on tajo. I'm not really a fan of the tajo wagon, he's too much of an easy target. (and so is zwet, you might respond, except that nobody is going after zwet...)
Feels a bit like if tajo pops up town, he can say 'i told you so', and then go after zwet. He rubbed me wrong day 1 too, but I can't pinpoint exactly what. Hope to do a reread this weekend.
I simply disagreed with caf19 but I don't at all see this interpretation here. Opposing a wagon in lieu of another one does not mean you're "relying on the former flipping town in order to line up the second one as a lynch". This part of WLC's post is not as scummy as it is bizarre.
His 989 also struck me as useless.
WeyounsLastClone (989) wrote:populartajo wrote:A weak attack coming for zwet is understandable but a weak attack coming for a player I respect only means one thing.
I will answer every accusation you brought to the table, ort. Until you eat your words.
Unvote Vote : ortolan.
OMGUS much? I agree that the votes on you are kind of unwarranted, but immediately switching to ortolan after he votes you feels a bit childish.
Childish = childish scum or childish town, or are you just active lurking?
WeyounsLastClone- who would you like to lynch today?
1071 by tajo is illogical.
caf19's 1080 very town.
At present I am waiting for sirdanilot's response to Gorrad, I am hoping tajo will perhaps try to moderate his scumminess by presenting an argument against me that amounts to more than gut, I am hoping zwet will stop being so scummy and (possibly) distracting from the real scum, and I am hoping that WeyounsLastClone will stop equivocating and generally being scum; or else we can just lynch him.
If that's setting myself up for an 'i told you so', then so be it. It's not what my intention is, but in any case I don't see what's inherently scummy about that, unless you are implying that it's because I'm scum who knows tajo is town already. If so, what's the basis?
