Mini 164: Rock Paper Scissors Mafia - Game Over

[vikingfan]

I have a good hunch who is telling the truth between them, but I want to wait for Coron's result, if he has one.

I think I'm going to go with the Rock team. No offense, but when everything is equal, I have to think: "who do I trust more?" Given Locus's wild insistence to vote anything and everything paper, I just feel that I trust Rock more to hold up their end of their bargain.

As far as coming in second, it's not guaranteed. One of these teams HAS to make a deal with us in order to try to win. Scissors can now go after either Rock or Paper and hope for the best. Do you have any objection to hooking up with Rock, Narn?

I'm going to hold off on a vote until we decide which route we're taking for lynching.

[DarkLight140]

Well, unless Narninian changes the collective mind of Paper, I guess it's time for the public Scissors to start making plots against the lot of you. I'll start plotting and get back to you all at a later time.

[Narninian]

You could make plots against Rock, since its the only way they wont win.

[DarkLight140]

Not strictly true. They could not win if, say, you allied with us instead. Or if we hatch a plot so overwhelmingly successful we somehow triumph against the combined might of the five of you.

...which I'm still trying to come up with. Was that a "Sure, vikingfan, let's ally Rock" on your part? Just making sure.

[Fuldu]

Vote Count:
Locus Cosecant - 1 (Coron)

Not Voting: DarkLight140, Locus Cosecant, Mr. Flay, Narninian, Save The Dragons, StrykkerVerde, vikingfan

With 8 alive, 5 to lynch

Discussion is still at good levels, so I don't intend to set a deadline any time soon.

[Narninian]

Well I'd say we lynch who we think the faker is, and if we are wrong, we go with scissors, if we are right we go with rock (basically ally with the opposite side of who we lynch) - so we should set up an exact plan with scissors in case we are wrong.

[Mr. Flay]

Even if Coron doesn't have a definitive answer, I think I have another way to verify who is lying. Not sure why I didn't think of it sooner *facepalm*

StrykkerVerde and Save The Dragons, will you each give all of your night actions, and the results? I'm particularly interested in last night, but having all of them to check against mine and Coron's will be helpful.

Obviously, for the real Rock, this is very much in your self-interest (and ours). It may yield nothing, but it's worth a shot.

[Mr. Flay]

Even if Coron doesn't have a definitive answer, I think I have another way to verify who is lying. Not sure why I didn't think of it sooner *facepalm*

StrykkerVerde and Save The Dragons, will you each give all of your night actions, and the results? I'm particularly interested in last night, but having all of them to check against mine and Coron's will be helpful.

Obviously, for the real Rock, this is very much in your self-interest (and ours). It may yield nothing, but it's worth a shot.

[StrykkerVerde]

I'll be honest, night 1 I do not remember what I did and I deleted my PM already, however since we started with night 1 and I had no real information for which to base my decision I don't think it matters too much what my night 1 choice was.

Night 2 I targeted DMI since the discussion during the day showed me that he was not Rock mafia. I ended up with a cop investigation letting me know that he was in fact the North American Sissor.

Night 3 I targeted Locus Coescant because I thought he was Rock and was trying to protect him. This also gave me a cop investigation verifying that Locus is the South American Sissor. This helped me to figure out that my information was not as accurate as I thought it was. Fortunately I didn't protect him.

Night 4 I Targeted Narninian because I was positive he was paper. I successfully protected him from harm.

Looks like I made some bad nightchoices, the last of which being the only one that really screwed anything up. In any case there you go.

[Narninian]

So basically us paper get to choose who wins the game(but cant choose ourselves). If Rock/Scissors protect their own, there is no way for paper to win unless the opposing scissors/rock decide to double team one person.

I guess there are other ways, but nothing obvious comes to me.

[Save The Dragons]

Day one-Mr. Flay: I protected you. It looks like Narninian and I both targeted you.

Day two-MGM: Found he was the South American Rock.

Day three-Coron: He's the North American Rock dude. But we all know that now.

Day four-Narninian: Since it looks like Scissors and Rock both targeted him, he was protected.

[Mr. Flay]

Day two-MGM: Found he was the South American Rock.

...

Day four-Narninian: Since it looks like Scissors and Rock both targeted him, he was protected.

Sorry STD, but you're the liar. I'm going to assume since you list four choices that you meant Night One, Night Two, etc. instead of Day...

Night Two I investigated MGM as well; because I got an investigation, that means that less than 50% of the Rock mafia investigated him; which means only one of us could. Otherwise, according to Fuldu's rules, we would have killed our own.

I believe that you targeted Narninian last night, mostly because SV got a protect result, and because that's what Scissors was "supposed" to do. Since Paper wouldn't have targeted their own with only kill options on the table, two Scissors must have.

I'll wait for Coron to be sure, but I'm convinced now who the Asian Rock mafia is:

StrykkerVerde,

who said he was on Day Two and I almost believed him!

[Mr. Flay]

Day two-MGM: Found he was the South American Rock.

...

Day four-Narninian: Since it looks like Scissors and Rock both targeted him, he was protected.

Sorry STD, but you're the liar. I'm going to assume since you list four choices that you meant Night One, Night Two, etc. instead of Day...

Night Two I investigated MGM as well; because I got an investigation, that means that less than 50% of the Rock mafia investigated him; which means only one of us could. Otherwise, according to Fuldu's rules, we would have killed our own.

I believe that you targeted Narninian last night, mostly because SV got a protect result, and because that's what Scissors was "supposed" to do. Since Paper wouldn't have targeted their own with only kill options on the table, two Scissors must have.

I'll wait for Coron to be sure, but I'm convinced now who the Asian Rock mafia is:

StrykkerVerde,

who said he was on Day Two and I almost believed him!

[vikingfan]

Well I'd say we lynch who we think the faker is, and if we are wrong, we go with scissors, if we are right we go with rock (basically ally with the opposite side of who we lynch) - so we should set up an exact plan with scissors in case we are wrong.

Seems too complicated, especially since I agree with Mr. Flay as to the faker's identity. I want an endorsement from you on which way we should be leading though.

And in the meantime,

Vote STD

until further notice.

[Save The Dragons]

Actually, I took out the scissors mafia rep from Asia before the game began and I'm neutral. I could go either way, I'm not aligned with scissors, I just chose to be at that point.

[Narninian]

sure, dont see any way to win anyway..

VOTE: Std

[Save The Dragons]

Alright, I change my claim to a flying lazer that shoots pumpkins out of his ass.

[DarkLight140]

Argh! We were doing so well, too. Sorry, STD... you tried.

Scissors, well, the only shot we've got is if Paper decides to double-cross Rock. Therefore, let's plan our kills in-thread here to try and make it profitable for them to do so, yeah? I'm thinking, of the pair of us that live, one targets Mr. Flay, and one hits Coron. Then, the Papers can target StrykkerVerde and one of us. If the Rocks double-crossed them and only protected each other, then no Rocks will die, and it will be 3 with kills tomorrow facing them down. If, on the other hand, the Rocks protected a Paper, then a Rock or two will die, a Scissor will also die, and Paper will be in a good position- probably the strongest, but at worst 2v2v1, which is still better than they've got now.

Locus Cosecant or STD, if you've got anything better, please share. It's a poor plan, but it's all I've got on short notice.

[vikingfan]

In that case, Narn, we may as well decide now who we're killing tonight-unless you have an objection, I'll go after Locus, you go after DarkLight.

And that's it for now, Rocks. It's up to you to finish the job on STD.

[StrykkerVerde]

Vote: SaveTheDragons

Told you guys I was the asain.

[StrykkerVerde]

*asian*
I'm sorry I seem to have terrible spelling today

[Save The Dragons]

I so want to be Asain.

[Coron]

vote: STD

[Coron]

unvote vote: STD

[Mr. Flay]

Narninian, are you good with vikingfan's plan of who kills whom?

I appreciate Paper's support on this. It's been a pleasure doing business with you...

Vote: Save the Dragons

, the big fat liar.