MKM II GAME OVER

[ortolan]

don't get modkilled because it is unethical/cheating and will have negative consequences for you-

probably getting blacklisted from future games by Lawrencelot

plus he'll probably deliberately punish your team anyway

[ortolan]

oh btw, I'm not softclaiming anything on tajo, I simply trust my ability to read him ~

ThAdmiral being scum may yet stick a spanner in the words but if he is Mushroom Kingdom there is no reason for tajo not to be third-party, which has been speculated at for a long time.

millar: you can actually help us if you tell us what DK's items do- the banana and barrel cannon.

Don't directly quote your pm please but paraphrase what they do.

[ortolan]

spanner in the works*

[Empking]

Oh, my. From the way people are claiming it must be reverse space monkey.

[Gorrad]

...Wait, did you just say what I think you said? You're next, Empking.

[Empking]

...Wait, did you just say what I think you said? You're next, Empking.

Why is that?

[Gorrad]

Please define what you mean by reverse space monkey.

[Empking]

Please define what you mean by reverse space monkey.

Scum think they're town.

[Gorrad]

Ah. How is that reverse from regular Space Monkey?

[Empking]

Ah. How is that reverse from regular Space Monkey?

Town & Scum think they're scum in regular.

[Gorrad]

Huh...I see what you mean. Kinda doubt it, though. Then both groups would have to be uninformed. Warioware and DK? Maybe.

[millar13]

I am not in the DK Crew. I just looked at the old game, in an attempt to maybe seem as if I was part of the MK. Not realizing that I was in fact on the side of the Bowser's army. I am Boo and I have no special powers...so I can't tell you anything useful ortolan

[WeyounsLastClone]

I am Boo and I have no special powers...so I can't tell you anything useful ortolan

Unvote. Vote: millar13.

I'm not trusting this claim one single bit. Even if he would be Boo, the 'no special powers' would be a lie, as I doubt there'd be two vanilla roles for Bowser's Army.

[Lawrencelot]

My win condition"

I win with the MK

Blah Blah DK died blah blah...Did_ _ K o _ _ is the name.

You have no special powers

Rectify the mistakes of your deceased relative

10) Quoting my PMs or any other PMs regarding this game is not allowed. You can paraphrase.

I find what millar13 did here close enough to breaking the rules, but not modkill-worthy. I will provide a punishment for millar13 and his faction. I will not tell anyone what the punishment is. Next time anyone claims something: if you claim your role pm, don't use the exact text as in the role pm, except for your rolename for example, and if you fakeclaim a role, don't pretend to use the exact same text as in a pm from me. In general, just paraphrase my pms, and if you're not sure whether you're breaking the rules, send your post to me first.

[sirdanilot]

@ sirdan:

facepalm.

You asked for posts where ortolan is apparently softclaiming. I gave them to you. Now Ill let everyone analyse those.

I suck at analogies, metaphores and such. Can you tell me the exact reason why you are going to vote me?

How the hell is he softclaiming there?

I have nothing personal against you tajo

I simply need you to die

in order to fulfill my (town) win condition

This seems more like he wants you to die because he thinks you are scum. But okay, at least I can

imagine

here that you would think that's role fishing.

I think you should vote tajo,

he is scum

.

How is this softclaiming.

I have many reasons for concluding tajo is scum

I think you should read more closely

With that he means that you should read his posts to find out his suspicions of tajo. OR: he means that you should read Tajo more closely to find out why he's scum. Neither relate to softclaiming?

Yer I guess it is,

tajo is an obvious lynch

to me

whereas zwet is an obvious mislynch

.

Paraphrase: 'I think tajo should be lynched because he's scum and zwet not because I think he's town'. How is this softclaiming.

I'm very interested to see if you keep going as hard after someone who can defend himself (ThAdmiral) now, tajo.

Heh. Not indicative of anything, though.

You did have a point that I thought you were just randomly showing ortolan comments that were pushing for your lynch, rather than places where you think he 'softclaimed'. But I guess that happens because he DIDN'T SOFTCLAIM.

sirdan, are you a member of the mushroom kingdom?

I answered this already (ort asked). Try again.

i am in the DK Crew actually

lol

My win condition"

I win with the MK

Blah Blah DK died blah blah...Did_ _ K o _ _ is the name.

You have no special powers

Rectify the mistakes of your deceased relative

lol?

Unvote. Vote: millar13
I'm not trusting this claim one single bit. Even if he would be Boo, the 'no special powers' would be a lie, as I doubt there'd be two vanilla roles for Bowser's Army.

*facepalm*

We lynch ThAdmiral first. I won't even begin to address the speculation in this post.

PLEASE DO NOT ADDRESS THIS SPECULATION EVERYONE

.

I have never seen a game where scum outted themselves like this not only by slips, but also by the excruciatingly obvious role fishing. Nor a game where town were acting so damn anti town.

[Lawrencelot]

Visible Votecount

-ThAdmiral (11): Kast, populartajo, AceMarksman, Riceballtail, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad, Empking, caf19, sirdanilot, ortolan, Moratorium
-millar13 (1): WeyounsLastClone

Not voting (5): killa seven, ZEEnon, ThAdmiral, semioldguy, millar13

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Also, I think millar's slip is way worse than ThAdmiral's.

[caf19]

Also, I think millar's slip is way worse than ThAdmiral's.

Do you not think ThAdmiral is scum?

[WeyounsLastClone]

Also, I think millar's slip is way worse than ThAdmiral's.

Do you not think ThAdmiral is scum?

Not as sure as I think millar is scum. ThAdmiral could be confused by his role pm like others were at the start of the game. The fact that he didn't post anything else besides his claim, then coming back on it, and then saying he doesn't understand the game is not in his favor though. I would like to see some sort of real analysis and a list of who he thinks are scummy players before ThAdmiral is lynched.

[sirdanilot]

Also, I think millar's slip is way worse than ThAdmiral's.

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Not as sure as I think millar is scum. ThAdmiral could be confused by his role pm like others were at the start of the game. The fact that he didn't post anything else besides his claim, then coming back on it, and then saying he doesn't understand the game is not in his favor though. I would like to see some sort of real analysis and a list of who he thinks are scummy players before ThAdmiral is lynched.

This post makes me VERY suspicious of WLC.

ThAdmiral has proved

not to know the BA win condition

. So I suppose you just proved the same thing? I can agree that his first claiming post wasn't that scummy (hence the gorrad reaction) but the second one was.

[sirdanilot]

mod: don't the rules state that we get a real vote count now? why did we first get a real vote count and now a visible one?

[ortolan]

WLC (1468): AFAIK ThAdmiral has deliberately seemingly avoided posting (despite the growing bandwagon) in this game after posting in others so I have to conclude he is very, very, very likely scum (check his profile).

sirdanilot (1464): It is nice to have some support even if I am unsure of your alignment I would like some clarification on what the following comment means though:

Nor a game where town were acting so damn anti town.

and I very much reiterate sirdanilot's question in 1970, which I was about to ask myself but previewed and saw it.

[sirdanilot]

Not sure why I said that. Mostly frustration I guess. I think I said it because a lot of players are acting anti town, but I am not sure why I called them 'town'. 'Players' would have been more appropriate there.

[ortolan]

Who specifically do you feel is acting town?

[Moratorium]

I find what millar13 did here close enough to breaking the rules, but not modkill-worthy. I will provide a punishment for millar13 and his faction. I will not tell anyone what the punishment is. Next time anyone claims something: if you claim your role pm, don't use the exact text as in the role pm, except for your rolename for example, and if you fakeclaim a role, don't pretend to use the exact same text as in a pm from me. In general, just paraphrase my pms, and if you're not sure whether you're breaking the rules, send your post to me first.

I feel bad for Lawrencelot, to be honest. His great game concept is being ruined by people misunderstanding their role PM's. Multiple times. Everyone cheers because town gets closer to winning, but the gameplay is essentially ruined.

Anyways, ThAdmiral and millar13 need to die, please pile on the votes to overwhelm whatever vote-reduction mechanic is preventing the ThAdmiral lynch currently.