Open 142: True Love (Game Over) before 784

[Percy]

I'm going out of my way to name my suspects by saying I think kirroha and Mitey are the most suspicious, Amished less, DDD even less, when a player asks me for my suspects? Interesting. Guess I should have ignored the question, right? That's pretty protown.




(I'd actually much rather lynch Mitey, but voting kirroha achieves the same end.)

[Kmd4390]

I see what you did there.

It's different. I'm attacking your stance and admitting to it. You were saying my certainty was scummy. I'm saying your stance itself is scummy.

You have 4 suspects in a game with 2 scum? Really? And they include players in every pair but your own. Convenient much?

[Percy]

You're not attacking my arguments. You're not addressing

any

stance I took on

any

issue.

You're simply pointing out that my suspects happen to fall in a configuration you call scummy, as you think attacking someone in every pair simultaneously is a good way to make friends and influence people.

So, yeah. Not different. Actually, worse.

I have 4 suspects. I have (I feel) good reasons to believe one of kirroha and Mitey are scum, as outlined in my post (which you continue to ignore, beyond a superficial and biased read). My reads on Amished and DDD are worth mentioning; specifically, I like the Amished/Mitey pairing, but if Mitey flips town then the lead will be less strong.

[Kmd4390]

You're simply pointing out that my suspects happen to fall in a configuration you call scummy, as you think attacking someone in every pair simultaneously is a good way to make friends and influence people.

Look.

Read what I am fucking saying for once.

I never once said that you were trying to influence people. You are setting yourself up to accept any lynch but your own. Scum do this all the fucking time.

If you name just one player as scum from every pair but your own, you can just as easily jump on their lover to get the lynch.

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I actually wouldn't mind a Kirroha lynch right now, but obviously, I'd much rather lynch obvscum Percy over here.

[Percy]

Read what I am fucking saying for once.

It's fucking hard to fucking read what you fucking don't fucking

write

.


You say I'm setting myself up to accept any lynch. Let me clear it up for you (which you could have done yourself if you went back and

read my post

, and maybe started talking about the stances I took on issues and other things you identified as important things for townies to do).


I explicitly said I wanted a kirroha/Mitey lynch. I do not want anyone but them to be lynched today.

If Mitey flips scum, then I will turn my sights to Amished.

Is that clear?

[Kmd4390]

It's fucking hard to fucking read what you fucking don't fucking

write

.

Really? That's all you've done all fucking game, so it can't be that hard.

I explicitly said I wanted a kirroha/Mitey lynch. I do not want anyone but them to be lynched today.

If Mitey flips scum, then I will turn my sights to Amished.

Is that clear?

If you go after a DDD/Sajin lynch, I'm pointing back to this post. No more hopping around for you.

[hohum]

I'm back. I will catch up today

EDIT: All caught up now.

[MiteyMouse]

Mitey, if Kirroha is scum, you can't possibly win AND survive. Realize that before calling yourself selfish.

I know...I'm not sure if this is a good or a bad thing, at least the way that it was worded. I'm willing to take the lynch, but I'd prefer not to yet.

MiteyMouse

- Has been sitting on the sidelines most dramatically. I know that sickness played a role, but he's spent most of his time talking about how he sees kirroha as scum (without giving good reasons), but is reluctant to vote for her or he'll die as well. He talks about how badly he wants to trust kirroha, which again is rather odd.

He says that the reason he's not jumping all over her is due to not wanting to die but a townie should want to get their partner lynched if they think they're scum. This has been pointed out multiple times. Declaring the RVS "over" in 152 is very late, and he appears to want to avoid scumhunting.

First off...MiteyMouse is a she. I'm getting confused with calling me a he.
Please don't presume to tell me how I should act as a Townie Percy. I never said that I didn't want to go after Kirroha, I said not yet.

Also "declaring RVS over" in 152...I removed my vote at that time with a lighthearted comment. Yes, I knes we were out of RVS but, I had not removed my vote yet and was in the process of catching up...I can put that vote back on if you'd like Percy...

Percy; you said that you want a lynch on me. What do you think that will tell you?

[Percy]

Apologies for the gender confusion.

A lynch of the kirroha/Mitey pair will tell us if one of you is scum. I'm pretty sure one of you are.

Why don't you want to pursue the leads on kirroha? When do you think would be a good time?

You haven't commented on the substance of the case against her; you've simply wrung your hands and said it's all too dangerous for you. Your lack of scumhunting against your partner is scummy.

[MiteyMouse]

I notice the lack of your partner's name on your suspicion list...

[Percy]

I specifically stated that I get a town read from Korts. He's not one of my suspects at the moment. I'm a little wary of his vote-switching between kevin and myself, but his kirroha scumhunt was well executed.

I notice that you ignored my post. Do you have anything to say, or are you just stalling?

[MiteyMouse]

Apologies for the gender confusion.

A lynch of the kirroha/Mitey pair will tell us if one of you is scum. I'm pretty sure one of you are.

Why don't you want to pursue the leads on kirroha? When do you think would be a good time?

You haven't commented on the substance of the case against her; you've simply wrung your hands and said it's all too dangerous for you. Your lack of scumhunting against your partner is scummy.

I'm giving Kirroha a chance to defend herself in our QT before I bring everything here. She hasn't been on at all in a while.

[Percy]

kirroha has votes from DDD, Korts and myself. This will result in a lynch in about 6 hours.

Kmd has said he's happy with the lynch. Amished and Sajin, what are your thoughts?

Mitey, kirroha, any last words?

[Amished]

Oh, shoot, I forgot about the deadline. Nobody really brought it up until now. Kirroha is definitely in my top 2 suspects, so I'm not opposed. However, I hate seeing a deadline lynch without a consensus or majority or anything, so I feel it necessary to have to hold myself up to scrutiny and being responsible for my words and actions.

Vote: Kirroha

[Kmd4390]

Because we don't have a very recent vote count, here's an unnofficial one for my convenience as well as everyone else's.

Kirroha - 3 - DDD, Korts, Percy
Percy - 2 - Kmd, Sajin
Not Voting=Amished, Kirroha, Mitey

The number of players not voting just before a deadline is unacceptable. Kirroha and Mitey are both lurkers and that pair has the highest chance of containing scum. While Percy is the scummiest individual player BY FAR, the Kirroha lynch works too. I think she is his buddy, so I won't stand in the way of that lynch.

Unvote, Vote Kirroha

Amished, I notice you haven't voted ANYONE yet. Why is this?

I still want Percy dead ASAP.

[Kmd4390]

Simulpost.

That's a hammer.

[hohum]

Official Vote Count:

Amished(0)

kirroha(5) Dobonair Danny DiPietro, Percy , Korts, Amished, Kmd4390

MiteyMouse(0)
Percy(0)
Debonair Danny DiPietro(0)
Korts(0)
ZazieR(0)
Kmd4390(0)
Not Voting(0), kirroah, MiteyMouse,

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[hohum]

The village of Heartston quickly erupted into chaos as accusations flew. The once peaceful and loving community turned violent as one-by-one the citizens began pointing fingers. As suspicion began to focus on one citizen tension mounted.

"No! It isn't me!" shouted kirrorah. The citizens of Heartston gathered together with a satisfied look in their eyes and began exact their toll. There was nothing but silent protest as the citizens slowly beat their suspect to death.

Kirrorah,

Mafia Goon

, Lynched, Day 1

Upon discovery that the love of her life had purposefully deceived her, Mitey toiled the day away in agony. Struggling with the grim reality of her situation, she decides to take her own life. Her body was discovered along with a single solitary slip of paper reading:

So long, and thanks for all the fish

MiteyMouse,

Lonely Townie

, Died of a broken heart, Day 1

[hohum]

A new day dawns. Get to lynching! With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

[Amished]

Sorry Mitey At least we only have 1 scum left though. I'll be doing a reread later to see if I think Kirr's obvpairing/defense of Percy is really a scum pairing or no.

[Amished]

Hmm, I find it interesting that the only person that Kirroha really accused of being scummy/voted in serious for was Korts. She stated that both Percy and Sonic (my predecessor) were very pro-town. While true that she avoided the (now) DDD/Sajin pairing in her initial post talking about all of us, I feel this gives us a good starting point for "today".

I think the difference in opinion about Percy/Korts is interesting. Korts was confirm voted and was the only person that she ever really put suspicion on, and she wouldn't let us lynch Percy and this would save Korts as well. I think our last scum is in that pairing, and Korts (while looking pro-town) is the true partner.

Vote: Korts

[Sajin]

Percy

: To me, Percy is giving the greatest town vibe of all players present. Those long posts that he had made all perfectly explains his own opinions and who he finds scummy. It seems to me the moment I read - "His conscience is clean. He is not afraid of looking scummy or other people picking on his posts, because he knows he isn't scum." It just gives me that kind of feeling. Every post he had made seems to have all his thoughts well poured into them, without hiding anything. He just seems to want to try his very best to help the town. You all might think that my text here seems very cheesy, but that's seriously the feeling that I get from reading Percy's posts. No scumfeel at all. If he really turns out to be scum, I'll be very shocked.

Why do I think that kirrorah is trying to not get her partner lynched here. She also stated that zazie was protown as well as sonic(read: every pairing), but this is over the top "no scum feel at all"??

If its not percy then its his pairing partner.

I would vote Percy but amished voted korts I will

unvote; vote korts

Thats L-2

[Kmd4390]

I don't see how Korts is scum for getting suspicion from a newer scum player. I do, however, (obviously) think that Percy is scum.

Vote Korts

[Amished]

Newb scum often have a tough time lying/fingering innocent people as scum (I know I did my first game as scum). It's much easier to target your partner.

[Kmd4390]

I think newer scum are more likely to defend their partner and be wishy washy on everyone else.

(As first time scum, I tunneled on a townie.)