BabyJesus wrote:fixed.....The Shadow wrote:OK: 3 vote choices.
A: Baby Jesus who talks too much.
B: Internet Stranger who doesn't talk at all.
C: Nanook with the color purple.
Well, I'm scum, and BabyJesus is not, plus his bandwagon is farther along...I think. So...
Unvote. Vote:BabyJesus
(noted for future reference)
What reasoning does IS ever have?Crola wrote:Please, run that by me again, what reasoning did IS have? If I remember correctly, IS just said "vote Olio," and that was it, talk about amazing reasoning.StevieT92 wrote:..well, IS had some reason to suspect him, and he is a confirmed townie, so you obviously are suspicious.
Also, even if IS did suspect someone, he was jumping around with votes each day, and it's not like he was cop with special insight.
Its almost impossible to have six killers because there were 3 kills night 2, but tis the only plausable solution I see. I have a strong feeling that if there are 2 mafias they are by color and not by piece so that they do not kill eachother off.Yosarian2 wrote:Yeah, if that's the case, the scum have been very lucky so far with only 1 scum dead of a nightkill. What's the alternative, though? One scum group that can make multiple kills each night? I've never seen that before, that seems like it might be unbalanced to me.warpdragon wrote:STD, its still not nice.
The idea of multiple families and vig's contradicts the fact that there is little scum crossfire.
Still speculating, another possibility would be 2 mafia groups, 2 SK's, and 2 vig's, with the vigs not being very active so far. 2 mafia groups and 4 vigs also seems possible. Because it's a chess theme, I would tend to doubt that he would break the symmetry; symmetrical sides all around would seem to fit the setting better, IMHO.warpdragon wrote: If there are 8 scum in 2 groups, all Bishops and Knights, either by piece or by color, then we must have 2 vigilantes, the Queens. In order for all kills to add up for night 2, a fifth killing group must be present. This would either mean one side is unballanced, there is a different kind of piece, or the scum groups are uneven. For example 3/3/2 or 2/2/4 instead of 4/4 groups. This is probable because some nights had 3 kills, meaning that up to 3 doctors needed to be right for 6 kills per night.
So Yaw pulled it out of his pocket?Iammars wrote:The first two were in Day 1, when we were all talking to one another and lynching BJ. The third was speculation about the kills. I was just trying to get information from the night scene.
Unvote if I'm voting.
vote: Yaw for pulling a connection out of... well... you know.
BJ- I know you had a lot to read, but if you pay attention, I've actually been contributing today. And that was a day one bandwagon. You dont really need evidence anyway.BabyJesus wrote:more questionable posts and such....warp seems to contribute little, jump on bandwagons for little reasoning....such as the one I quotedFuldu wrote:Not that I disagree with you about warpdragon and olio, BJ - in fact, I place them above Iammars on my scummy list - but what made you select the two of them from the 2 of 3 list?
olio - same iffy jumping, IS was pushing his lynch today, and IS was night killed, similar lack of contributing...
Not a whole lot of specifics, as I read through 22 pages, so its all a blur....but those 2 stuck out more then the rest.
Uh, thats pretty much what I said in my second to last post, saing they were separated by color and piece among the knights and bishops.Pie_is_good wrote:OK, fair enough.
Thinking about it, I'll bet the mafia families are:
2 white bishops
2 black bishops
2 white knights
2 black knights
...hence the 4 kills (+vigs)
How are the colors equal?BabyJesus wrote:Yaw wrote:Well, I hadn't counted the roles yet. By my count we have:
2 White Pawns, 1 Black Pawns
2 White Knights, 2 Black Knights
1 White Bishops, 1 Black Bishop
1 Black Rook
1 White King
1 Black Queen
Which isn't a lot of pawns, that's true. I still don't think people are going to suddenly claim special roles -- in three specific cases (Rook, King, Queen) that would be equivalent to a colour claim, and hence effectively suicidal, in two others (the Bishops) it would be admitting to scumminess. The colour issue just makes it disadvantageous to claim, because it sabotages the chances at achieving half of the stated goals of this game.
well, we're equal in color....so both sides will be at a similar disadvantage. And we'll have our scum really pinned down.
Oh, I see. I was just looking at the collumns becasue thats how they were at the top. I was thinking that it would be like this:BabyJesus wrote:6 and 6.....warpdragon wrote:How are the colors equal?BabyJesus wrote:Yaw wrote:Well, I hadn't counted the roles yet. By my count we have:
2 White Pawns, 1 Black Pawns
2 White Knights, 2 Black Knights
1 White Bishops, 1 Black Bishop
1 Black Rook
1 White King
1 Black Queen
Which isn't a lot of pawns, that's true. I still don't think people are going to suddenly claim special roles -- in three specific cases (Rook, King, Queen) that would be equivalent to a colour claim, and hence effectively suicidal, in two others (the Bishops) it would be admitting to scumminess. The colour issue just makes it disadvantageous to claim, because it sabotages the chances at achieving half of the stated goals of this game.
well, we're equal in color....so both sides will be at a similar disadvantage. And we'll have our scum really pinned down.
We are pretty sure there are 4 groups of 2 scum BlackBishops WhiteBishops BlackKnights WhiteKnights), divided by color and piece. There are 2 vigilantes (Queens), but didnt kill most nights due to an investigative ability.BabyJesus wrote:Also, was it ever determined/speculated on Knights? Are they vig's?
The actions of the town ( "we" ) seem to be based arround the idea that the bishops and knights are scum.Yaw wrote:I'm sorry,warpdragon wrote:We are pretty sure there are 4 groups of 2 scum BlackBishops WhiteBishops BlackKnights WhiteKnights), divided by color and piece. There are 2 vigilantes (Queens), but didnt kill most nights due to an investigative ability.we? I only recall one other person saying that in this entire game.
Also, the only reason it was good for black pawns to claim is because at the time we were sure there was only one of them. Otherwise, nobody would have claimed at all.