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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:32 am

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I meant I thought I would of been nightkilled if it was you. I suppose that is a WIFOM based argument though. Also, you had avvid cause to be voting me so I guess you could of voted first if not for the watcher claim.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:44 am

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Sajin wrote:I meant I thought I would of been nightkilled if it was you. I suppose that is a WIFOM based argument though. Also, you had avvid cause to be voting me so I guess you could of voted first if not for the watcher claim.
I actually thought you too scummy for most of the game to warrant killing you. (Ironically, I was split between killing you and Korlash last night, worrying that you might actually be Mafia. I worried about the wrong thing, apparently :oops:)

And yes, I did have avid cause to be voting you. I didn't want Battousai to yell at me for voting so quick, though.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:45 pm

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Nice one Batt. Glad you guys pulled it out in the end.

@SC: I assume you killed me because I was right about you, correct?
Because, no matter how you dress it up, that's what the world is. A community of idiots doing a series of things until the world explodes and we all die.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:57 pm

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Kairyuu wrote:Nice one Batt. Glad you guys pulled it out in the end.

@SC: I assume you killed me because I was right about you, correct?
Actually, because you were going on V/LA and thus not likely to be scum at the stage of the game we were at.
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:54 pm

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It's the last day! With three people alive, only ONE can be the killer. Rachel, Inspector Meguire, and Sumiko Kobayashi. Unfortunately for one, all is not as it appears.

Battousai, AKA Inspector Meguire, had been worried about losing Harley, a well known detective, and set up a stakeout outside his house. That night, he saw Sumiko, AKA StrangerCoug, enter. With Harley dead, Rachel (Sajin) has to decide whether to believe the inspector or Conan's teacher. The choice is easy.

As Sumiko crumbles to the floor, the magic surrounding her dissapates, revealing Akako Koizumi, enchantress. Turns out the nickname of 'witch' was well-earned.

Though many lives were lost, it goes to show you that in the end, one truth always prevails!


StrangerCoug, SK, Sumiko Kobayashi/Akako Koizumi lynched D5


Battousai, Watcher, Joseph Meguire/George Kaminski
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Sajin, Vanilla Townie, Rachel Moore/Amy Yeager

Won with the rest of the town!
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:03 pm

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Roles!


Hi, you're
Jimmy Kudo, Tracker
. As one of the World's Greatest Detectives, you're a pro at tailing suspects. Once per night, you can choose one person to follow and see where they're sneaking off to...

Hello, you're
Richard Moore, Cop
. As head of the Moore Detective Agency, you're privy to all sorts of police databases and files, allowing you to look up one person a night. Your records should tell you whether or not they're a crook.

Greetings, you are
Konosuke Jii, 1-shot governor
. You were the assistant to the original Kaitou Kid, and now you're the aide to the title's heir. You've lived long and have had time to make many connections. Once in the game, you can use one such connection to stop the day's lynch.

What?!? You're
Hershal Agasa, Mafia Roleblocker
. But you're not really. You're a member of the Black Organization hidden deep undercover. Once per night, you can choose one person on which you can use one of Agasa's toys, stopping them from doing anything that night.

Also, you and your partner, ???, disguised as
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, have two abilities you can use at night. One is a kill that either of you can choose to carry out instead of a night action. The other is the APTX 4869 drug, which does not replace a night action and is not counted as such in any way, shape, or form, which can be used on any person currently in the game. You and your partner can talk at night.

Huh?!? You're
Booker Kudo, Mafia Ninja
. But you're not really. You're a member of the Black Organization hidden deep undercover. If you ever decide to send in your group's Night Kill, it cannot be seen by any sort of Tracker, Watcher, or similar role.

Also, you and your partner, ???, disguised as
Hershal Agasa, Mafia Roleblocker
. have two abilities you can use each night. One is a kill that either of you can choose to carry out instead of a night action. The other is the APTX 4869 drug, which does not replace a night action and is not counted as such in any way, shape, or form, which can be used on any person currently in the game. You and your partner can talk at night.

Hold on...You're
Sumiko Kobayashi, SK
?!? You've been called the Witch by your students, but who knew how right they were? Taking this form makes it easy to obtain your goal! Which, it seems, is to kill off everyone. What a good story this makes...Once per night, you can target one person to kill.

How's it going? You're
Harley Hartwell, Vanilla Townie
. You've got a lot going for you with your detective work, but unfortunately it's not going to help you much here. You've got your vote: Use it wisely, detective!

Glad you're here! You're
Vivian Kudo, Vanilla Townie
. Your son's gotten you into another mess, it seems. Well, time to use those skills that you've gained from having a suspense novellist for a husband. You've got your vote, use it well!

Hey! You're
Rachel Moore, Vanilla Townie
. Well, you've gotten yourself into another fine mess, haven't you? Better get to work helping your dad. And who knows, maybe Jimmy will show up! Until then, do him proud by using your vote well.

Hmm. You're
Shiho Miyano, Vanilla Townie
. You've put your days in the Black Organization behind you, and now you're here to pay them back for killing your sister! You may have only a vote, but you can bet that it'll be used well!

Yo! You're
Eva Kadan, Doctor
. Well, you're a doctor of law. Once per night, you can convince the law to set up a security checkpoint outside someone's house, making sure no one with a weapon gets through.

Howdy, you're
Joseph Meguire, Watcher
. Your time in the Force has given you something much more valuable than a gun or paperwork. It's given you experience! Once per night, you can set up a perimeter around someone's house and see if anyone pays a visit there.


The APTX 4869 drug acted as a role changer, as was suspected. The following were the changes:

Jimmy Kudo Tracker - Conan Edagawa Vig

Shiho Miyano Vanilla - Anita Hailey 1-shot reverser

Konosuke Jii 1-shot governor - Kaito Kuroba Jack (RB, Forced commute, Hider)

Hershel Agasa Mafia Roleblocker - Gin Mafia Jailkeeper

Booker Kudo Mafia Ninja - Vodka Mafia Daykiller

Sumiko Kobayashi SK - Akako Koizumi SK (Kill can’t be stopped by men except Kaito)

Richard Moore Cop - Saguru Hakuba Finder (SK)

Eva Kadan Doc - Miwako Sato Vanilla

Joseph Meguire Watcher- George Kaminski Vanilla

Harley Hartwell Vanilla - Mitch Tennison Vanilla

Vivian Kudo Vanilla - Serena Sebastian Vanilla

Rachel Moore Vanilla - Amy Yeager Vanilla

The first three helped town, the second three helped scum, the third three hurt town, and the fourth three had no effect. Mafia had the ill fortune to target two of the first three (though I loved that their first target was Conan). Anita Hailey's role reversed the drug's effect.

Well played on all sides! Many props to SC (I thought you were done for when you admitted that the word 'witch' was in your role PM after the kill MO was magic) as well as the town for their quick work of the mafia, ruining many of my schemes ><.

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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:06 pm

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Changed Role PMs:


Hi! You're now
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You're a detective! Or, at least you used to be before you got shrunk. Now you may not be able to research and investigate as much as you did, but you DO have super-powered shoes! Once per night, you can kick a soccer ball and knock someone out (in all respects other than flavor, a kill).

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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:36 pm

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So I was right, those magicians wouldn't be the ones using magic to kill. It had to be real magic.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:28 pm

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GG all... I kinda knew I was going to be NKed which is one reason i didn't vote for the no lynch even though I really wanted to... It kinda seemed like the equivalent of hammering myself.

So Bat, how did you feel when I said one of us had to be a watcher?

Gorrad man I have to say... some aspects of your setup seem to be getting a little too easy to read you know... :P
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:13 am

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Man... I called it in my first posts... SC was scum...

I may have come off too strong but I was right about fire and about SC.

The fact that SC tried to go either way at lylo was scummy.

lol. SC expected Battou to vote Sajin...

When you guys where discussing numbers I wanted to raise from the dead and eat SC's brains!!! So much BS!

I was pretty sure that SC was evil but also somewhat suspected Battou...

If I was alive... I wouldn't have lynched millar... although his play sucked and I sent him a pm scolding him.

KUDOS to madeofphail!! He was the most relevant player. Wiped out both scum.
Gorrad wrote:Woah! You're now
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This was SO cruel!!! I got all those powers and couldn't use them.... :(

One of the things I'll never forget was my eternal back and forth with Kairyuu... :D

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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:23 am

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Aaaaand CASE CLOSED!
:D

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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:41 am

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Guess I was part of the winning team, despite clear frustration
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:08 am

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millar13 wrote:Guess I was part of the winning team, despite clear frustration
As I said. Self-hammering as town will only hurt YOUR team. Playing against your team isn't a nice thing to do.

But we can all learn from mistakes. Oh, I was right about you too. I said SC and you were town... :P

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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:36 am

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I thought I played quite well. That was a good gambit by Battousai, if I didn't say it already in thread.

Yeah, I had to make sure I came of as pro-town after saying I was a witch. Being unfamiliar with the theme, I had to look her up and see what flavor I could write of my own that would convince everyone of my towniness—using just what was in my role PM would've gotten me killed by somebody.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:13 am

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Scum really had a bad stroke of luck in this game. This is also the first game I died twice in. Fake claims, and appeals to logic really couldn't help me in the end. Tracker watched me as I turned him into a vig, what are the odds? lol.

Good game all, nice win, Town.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:19 am

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I laughed to myself and felt pity towards you Lin, when you were given Inquisitor's role and killed the same night.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 am

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I needed a replacement for IVS, so I just told Lind going into it that he was gonna die. Couldn't really have him replace and live, it would be obvious that he replaced scum. Anyhow, here's the night actions.

N1:
Madeofphail's tracking used on Lindisfarne
Isacc's cop used on Lindisfarne
Lind's RB used on Kairyuu
IVS's scumkill used on Isacc
Stranger's SK kill used on Battousai
Millar's doc used on Battousai
Battousai's watching used on Stranger

drug used on madeofphail

Battousai sees that no one visited Stranger
Madeofphail sees that Lind visited Kairyuu before shrinking
Isacc sees that Lindisfarne is scum before dying

N2:
Madeofphail's Vig used on IVS
IVS's scumkill used on madeofphail
Stranger's SK kill used on alexhans
Millar's doc used on Korlash
Battousai's watching used on madeofphail

drug used on alexhans

IVS dies
Phail dies
Alex shrinks and dies
Battousai sees that IVS visited Phail

N3:
Stranger's SK kill used on Kairyuu
Battousai's watching used on Korlash

N4:
Stranger's SK kill used on Korlash
Battousai's watching used on Korlash
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:50 am

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Madeofphail's tracking used on Lindisfarne
Isacc's cop used on Lindisfarne
WOW. Good job agents! :D
Lind's RB used on Kairyuu
Why kairyuu?
IVS's scumkill used on Isacc
Good job scum.
Stranger's SK kill used on Battousai
Millar's doc used on Battousai
Well. Millar helped a lot here.
Battousai's watching used on Stranger
Battou... Why?
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Madeofphail sees that Lind visited Kairyuu before shrinking
How did he assume Lindis was scum with this??
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Madeofphail's Vig used on IVS
IVS's scumkill used on madeofphail
crossfire! :lol:
Stranger's SK kill used on alexhans
ARGH!!! I HAD you!!
drug used on alexhans
why??? Out of hammered spite? :P or to help me?
Alex shrinks and dies
XD
Stranger's SK kill used on Kairyuu
Notice a pattern here? Only sajin was left of the people who had stated suspicion of SC...
Battousai's watching used on Korlash
GOOD CALL.
Stranger's SK kill used on Korlash
Unfortunate call :P

As for my claim... I did it to try and wifom scum and save madeofphail from death or somewhat confirm myself. I knew that Lindis was very probably scum but was trying to lure out his partner. Wich I couldn't because he was not posting... douh!
SC acted scummy EVERYDAY... his vote on made and later on lindis read evil(scum/sk) all over.

It's surprising how both scum bailed out... One didn't even confirm and the other posted very little... sucks...

IMO, what killed the replacement scum was that IVS didn't post and that Lindis posted some pro-town looking posts but then dissapeared and he seemed to live his lynching options really open.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:14 am

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alexhans wrote:
Battousai's watching used on Stranger
Battou... Why?
I figured it would be easier to pick who an investigative role would target over scum on D1. I thought people would investigate SC.
alexhans wrote:
Madeofphail sees that Lind visited Kairyuu before shrinking
How did he assume Lindis was scum with this??
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:42 pm

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I would have to say, I didn't like something about the mod in this game; something that I think should be looked at to better his other games. Deadlines. The twilight deadline, of 24 hrs I believe, should have continued all day, as not to give the town more information. Another deadline that was loosely inforced was the Night deadline. I know trying to get the night over with fast helps with inactivity and all that, but when you cut it short to 12 or so hours, that gives the town information that the scum would have to had been active during that time (ruling out any V/LA or otherwise). Nights should be consistant all game. That's the only thing I found wrong with this game.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:59 pm

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I RB'd kairyuu because he was the only player I feared. Isacc was a stroke of luck, I normally kill players on N1 that provide little for town to work with. It was dumb luck he was the cop. Made, we were up in the air over.

IVS and I both sent a different set of actions to the mod. I tried to get ahold of IVS, and he never responded back, so I compromised and told the mod to go with the made/kai/isacc choices. We honestly had no idea what the drug did, so I figured it was probably best to test it on someone who had yet to impact the game at all.

Why did you track me, made, and why did isacc investigate me? I normally don't give off very scummy vibes.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:12 am

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Lindisfarne wrote:Why did you track me, made, and why did isacc investigate me? I normally don't give off very scummy vibes.
Alexhans wrote:IMO, what killed the replacement scum was that IVS didn't post and that Lindis posted some pro-town looking posts but then dissapeared and he seemed to live his lynching options really open.
Also, if it weren't for the fact tha you claimed ot have given made the drug then I wouldn't have necessarily voted you. But once you did... One of you 2 had to be lying.
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