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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:28 am

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Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
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-Pointing out that another player failed to do something is not ad hom. You fail to use that term correctly.
Give an example of when I said otherwise.

Sir; You're calling me suspicious and refuse to back that up? Why are you doing something scummy? Why do you refuse to scum hunt?


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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:28 am

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Sir: All my posts today have been scumhunting.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:40 am

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Empking wrote:Sir: All my posts today have been scumhunting.
I'm putting this in my sig.
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:35 am

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Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:40 am

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caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:03 am

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Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
You did here:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
and that's the bit I was referring to in my post.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:26 am

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caf19 wrote:
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
You did here:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
and that's the bit I was referring to in my post.
You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:33 am

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Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
You did here:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
and that's the bit I was referring to in my post.
You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?
Yup.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:53 am

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Kast & Sir: Why do you feel that 1702 & 1707 are scumhunting?
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:31 am

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Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
You did here:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
and that's the bit I was referring to in my post.
You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?
Not exactly, but in this case it might be helpful... please expand on why Kast is lying.
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:41 am

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caf19 wrote:
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
You did here:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
and that's the bit I was referring to in my post.
You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?
Not exactly, but in this case it might be helpful... please expand on why Kast is lying.
I know what implict means.
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:43 am

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@Empking-
Empking wrote:
-Pointing out that another player failed to do something is not ad hom. You fail to use that term correctly.
Give an example of when I said otherwise.
Empking said otherwise when he wrote:
If it looks like I say it a lot, that's probably because you fail a lot.
Ad hom.
-I never said 1702 or 1707 are examples of scumhunting. How about addressing actual points instead of hiding behind fake ones?

-Once again, please maintain some consistency. I asked you previously if you understand what implicit means. You failed to answer.

Your response, which failed to answer any of my actual points, was to claim confusion about what is happening in the game. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and readdressed in case you really didn't understand. You still fail to answer.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:50 am

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Kast; Are you purposely trying to make it difficult to read your posts?

In that second post what "something" did you point out that I failed to do?

- So you don't think Gorrad is scumhunting?

- So you're blaming you making your posts impossible to respond to on me?
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:15 am

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@Empking-
-No. Is it difficult to read a post with quotes in it? If you feel that it is difficult, then why did you do the same thing? Also, why did you change the paragraph formatting of my post that you quoted? Is your question another attempt to distract from the actual point?

-You called that post ad hom. Please explain if you feel it is ad hom. I assumed it was in response to me pointing out that you fail often.

Was that actually a "new point"?

-Where do you get the impression that I don't think Gorrad is scumhunting?

I think Gorrad is probably a third party such as Wario. I would guess he is trying to blend into the town by catching an MK player. I think he is correct in suspecting you of being one of the MK players. This isn't anything new.

Why do you continue to claim that I say or believe things that either have nothing to do with what I posted or sometimes directly contradict my actual posts?

Are you trying to invent a case against me? This is extremely similar to our previous game together where you did the exact same thing. Are you planning to invent another fake quote in which I claim to be scum?

-How am I making my posts impossible to respond to? Please give some examples.
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:17 am

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@Empking-
To clarify, 1702 and 1707 are not representative of all of Gorrad's posting so far in this game. Your logic fails. If a player makes 2 posts which are not scumhunting that does not mean the player never makes any posts that are scumhunting.
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:18 am

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@Empking-
Why didn't you answer previously when I asked if you understand what implicit means?
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:33 am

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Kast wrote:@Empking-
-No. Is it difficult to read a post with quotes in it? If you feel that it is difficult, then why did you do the same thing? Also, why did you change the paragraph formatting of my post that you quoted? Is your question another attempt to distract from the actual point?
Another post saying that I shouldn't make my own points?
Its difficult to read posts that have quotes, links and words in links all close together.
-You called that post ad hom. Please explain if you feel it is ad hom. I assumed it was in response to me pointing out that you fail often.

Was that actually a "new point"?
Its saying that my points are invalid because I as a person in general fail a lot.
-Where do you get the impression that I don't think Gorrad is scumhunting?
I don't
I think Gorrad is probably a third party such as Wario. I would guess he is trying to blend into the town by catching an MK player. I think he is correct in suspecting you of being one of the MK players. This isn't anything new.

Why do you continue to claim that I say or believe things that either have nothing to do with what I posted or sometimes directly contradict my actual posts?
Why are you unable to give examples.
Are you trying to invent a case against me? This is extremely similar to our previous game together where you did the exact same thing. Are you planning to invent another fake quote in which I claim to be scum?
Funny how you make that point but don't back that up with a link to the game.
-How am I making my posts impossible to respond to? Please give some examples.
The links in the quote headers.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:48 am

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Kast: Do you think I'm the worst poster in the not posting/posting only a small amount stakes?
Scumhunting?

1715: Your posts are difficult to respond to.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:19 am

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I'm not liking how empking is responding, but that's just my say in this right now.
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:38 am

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Riceballtail wrote:I'm not liking how empking is responding, but that's just my say in this right now.
I'll turn this around: Does ANYONE here like how Empking is responding?
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:52 am

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Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
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empking wrote:You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?

VOTE: EMPKING
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:01 am

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sirdanilot wrote:
Empking wrote:
Kast wrote:@Empking-
-Post an example of me calling you scummy for posting a new point.

-Please try to be consistent. I pointed out that your post failed to address the post it was responding to. You answered that you were making a new point. If you are making a new point instead of addressing the old point, then you are not addressing that old point.

-I have pointed out the examples but here again for your convenience:

I posted a series of thoughts about you. Instead of addressing them, you called me a liar without any elaboration. On further clarification, it turns out you don't understand the meaning of the word implicit and so thought that I was lying. In either event, you attempted to avoid answering my points by calling me a liar (the straw man).
Liar
Empking wrote:
caf19 wrote:Emp, please post more than one-word responses... if you only say "Liar", I can't exactly work out what you are referring to or why you believe he's lying. It doesn't help your case.

Still more of the same from killa and Zee, we're coming to a bit of an impasse here...
You think I only post onre word responses?
<caf gives example>
empking wrote:You think people should never ever respond to a point with one word?

VOTE: EMPKING
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:03 am

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@Empking-
-You asked if I was trying to make my posts difficult to read. I am not doing so. I think your question is pretty nonsensical. I didn't state anywhere that you can't or shouldn't make new points. I did state that you should not use irrelevant points to avoid answering the relevant ones.

Do you have bbcode turned off? Do you have a hard time hyperlinks? I have no clue why you think putting a link in a quote title makes it difficult to read or respond to.

-I did not say anything about your points being invalid because you fail. You asked why I keep pointing out instances when you fail. I answered that the reason I keep pointing out those instances is because those instances are numerous. No personal attack there. No use of personal attacks to discredit any of your posts.

-If you understand that I think Gorrad is scumhunting, then why did you ask this question?
- So you don't think Gorrad is scumhunting?
-That *IS* an example. You ask a leading question that assumes I think Gorrad is not scumhunting. That is contradictory to the beliefs that I have been expressing.

Why do you ask for examples, but ignore them when I post them?

If you didn't realize it, the links I include in my posts go directly back to the examples. Is the reason you say it is difficult to read my posts because you need an excuse for not addressing the points and examples?

-I have previously mentioned and linked to the same game. I didn't think it was necessary to do so again, but since you ask I will oblige.
Empking quoting himself but attributing it to me wrote:This is where he claimed scum:
Empking wrote:Kast claimed scum.
You exhibit similar behavior in this game as in that game; you have no interest in actively scumhunting, you only sit back and make posts when people attack you. When you do make posts, you avoid addressing the actual points, and instead post irrelevant nonsense or twisted or fictional quotes from your attackers.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:03 am

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@All-
Assuming Sirdanilot has a single vote and Gorrad and I are not lying about our double votes, then Empking is now at L-1.
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:06 am

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If it helps any, the townies I summon (which I assume to be vanilla) are NOT Goombas.
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