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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:11 am

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I'm not all that confident in Jahudo's scuminess. As such, I'm willing to take a gamble.

The rest of you alive are pretty confident players, and I'm hoping you guys can root out the final scum so I can win. With us 2 down, it'll be down to 3 townies and 1 scum - and I think those chances are pretty damn good.
I just urge that if we come up town, you listen to what we had to say.

If Jahudo's scum, I'll lose. But... I'm going to die anyway. There's a chance I can still win without having to scrap through the rest of today and end up dying anyway.

I won't hammer now. I'd like to see some reactions to this so you have more to go off when I do.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:38 pm

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molestargazer wrote: If Jahudo's scum, I'll lose. But... I'm going to die anyway. There's a chance I can still win without having to scrap through the rest of today and end up dying anyway.
Could you rephrase that?


And Mole, if you were to flip town who would you want us to look at in your absence?
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:07 pm

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molestargazer wrote: If Jahudo's scum, I'll lose. But... I'm going to die anyway. There's a chance I can still win without having to scrap through the rest of today and end up dying anyway.
Could you rephrase that?
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:53 pm

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It's clear to me that Countess can only be scum with Nightfall, and even that I don't believe anymore. So I have a hard time understanding where mole is still confident about Countess being scum. She didn't hammer, so she can't be scum right?

And KMD can't be scum unless he knew double voting wouldn't count. He thought I had hammered and won the game, so if he was scum why say that to someone that couldn't be pinned as scum with him?

So the way I see it is this:

Countess could be scum with Nightfall
mole could be scum with Nightfall or Jahudo
DJ could be scum with Nightfall or Jahudo

I don't see how scum-Jahudo would have any chance of winning at this stage. If I were to flip scum and you knock out either mole or DJ today, you either win the game now or win tomorrow because I can't be scum with Countess.

And I'm not trying to WIFOM you out here because even if scum-Jahudo were to trick you into lynching 2 townies today, scum-Jahudo would still have a game tomorrow because of the page 1 ruleset:
6 - A lynch requires a 50%+1 (Rounded down) majority vote. A no-lynch requires 50% (Rounded up) of the votes currently in play. If a deadline is reached, no lynch is achieved.
So if we still have 2 scum tomorrow they can't win the game until they make 1 townie pick incorrectly.

So how about it? Lynch Nightfall first DJ (because he can go home with scum)? You have nothing to lose here by doing this.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:54 pm

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EBWOP: Lynch Nightfall first with DJ
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:09 am

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so are you claiming scum?
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:28 am

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Nightfall wrote:
molestargazer wrote: If Jahudo's scum, I'll lose. But... I'm going to die anyway. There's a chance I can still win without having to scrap through the rest of today and end up dying anyway.
Could you rephrase that?


And Mole, if you were to flip town who would you want us to look at in your absence?
My win condition states that if I leave with someone who's scum, I'll lose.

However, I know my claim is in doubt, and I know there's a lot of people who think I'm scum. So if I survive today, the chances of the town hitting scum tomorrow lessen if you go for me.

I'm honestly not sure anymore about who to look at. I'm fairly confident about don_johnson and kmd being pro-town. Less so about the Countess and Nightfall.
Since there's sincere belief in the Countess' pro-townieness (I'm still worried about this whole game being occam's razor), I'll say look at nightfall tomorrow.
Jahudo wrote:So how about it? Lynch Nightfall first DJ (because he can go home with scum)? You have nothing to lose here by doing this.
Doing this, there's still a chance of someone framing myself or you as scum and them walking away. If you're scum, the town win, but I lose. I can live with that.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:34 am

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Yes, we're at L-1.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:01 am

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Jahudo wrote: And I'm not trying to WIFOM you out here because even if scum-Jahudo were to trick you into lynching 2 townies today, scum-Jahudo would still have a game tomorrow because of the page 1 ruleset:
6 - A lynch requires a 50%+1 (Rounded down) majority vote. A no-lynch requires 50% (Rounded up) of the votes currently in play. If a deadline is reached, no lynch is achieved.
So if we still have 2 scum tomorrow they can't win the game until they make 1 townie pick incorrectly.
quote]

A lynch requires majority vote yes, but unless you know something here that I don't scum usually only have to diminish the towns numbers to even strength with their own. Meaning that in a 2 scum and 2 townie situation, scum would get the victory.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:01 am

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EBWOP
Jahudo wrote: And I'm not trying to WIFOM you out here because even if scum-Jahudo were to trick you into lynching 2 townies today, scum-Jahudo would still have a game tomorrow because of the page 1 ruleset:
6 - A lynch requires a 50%+1 (Rounded down) majority vote. A no-lynch requires 50% (Rounded up) of the votes currently in play. If a deadline is reached, no lynch is achieved.
So if we still have 2 scum tomorrow they can't win the game until they make 1 townie pick incorrectly.
quote]

A lynch requires majority vote yes, but unless you know something here that I don't scum usually only have to diminish the towns numbers to even strength with their own. Meaning that in a 2 scum and 2 townie situation, scum would get the victory.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:03 am

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EBWOP ... One final time...
Jahudo wrote: And I'm not trying to WIFOM you out here because even if scum-Jahudo were to trick you into lynching 2 townies today, scum-Jahudo would still have a game tomorrow because of the page 1 ruleset:
6 - A lynch requires a 50%+1 (Rounded down) majority vote. A no-lynch requires 50% (Rounded up) of the votes currently in play. If a deadline is reached, no lynch is achieved.
So if we still have 2 scum tomorrow they can't win the game until they make 1 townie pick incorrectly.
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A lynch requires majority vote yes, but unless you know something here that I don't scum usually only have to diminish the towns numbers to even strength with their own. Meaning that in a 2 scum and 2 townie situation, scum would get the victory.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:05 am

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Your right actually. My scenario doesn't account for how the 2 town can break the tie so unless there's a deadline lynch we should assume 1 scum has to be gone by the end of today.

I'm back to being fine with a mole lynch.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:01 am

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If you're fine with my lynch, I'm fine with yours. Let's narrow it down.

Who knows, if I'm unlucky, you're scum.

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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:08 am

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I'm town. Let's hope that count was scum.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:09 am

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I asked the Mod about a 2 town, 2 scum endgame because I thought it would end as "happily ever after" because scum can't mislynch without a townie vote and town can't lynch scum, so town voting would be dumb. All we could do is No Lynch. Apparently, scum have some kind of ability that would win the game. I think Don knew that:
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:17 am

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Jahudo (4): Kmd4390, Don_Johnson, Nightfall, molestargazer
Nightfall (1): Jahudo
Not Voting (1): The Countess

So... both of the players were town giving the victory to scum...

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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:23 am

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don_johnson wrote: countess: it seems as though its up to you. kmd seems to be trying to portray our recent actions as though they aren't in fact scum hunting and that we should return to it. This feels like a misdirection to me. i don't see how kmd isn't scum here.
All I'm saying is that everything you are willing to do would give you the win if you are scum with Nightfall. It's a little convenient.

If you guys aren't scum together, I'll take a picture of a sock in my mouth and post it in the "Put a Face With a Name" thread.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:45 am

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Aw, shit.

Sorry guys.

Well played to you two.
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:02 am

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molestargazer wrote:Aw, shit.

Sorry guys.

Well played to you two.
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:21 am

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The best play was by DGB.
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:36 am

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my apologies for shamelessly lurking through to endgame. honestly, i started reading this game, got to the end of day 1 and thought,

"i don't need to do this. i'm scum."

were nigthfall and i even allowed to talk?

yeah, jahudo's blunder helped us out big time. DGB played perfect, so i guess we are secondary winners.

this was fun either way.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:59 am

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When Don claimed that he could be lynched with married people I thought we were gone :)

It didn't really matter in the end, but I think the lynch on KMD should have gone through...

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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:22 am

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Kmd, Guess right?
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:16 pm

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Hello. good game.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:21 pm

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Porochaz wrote:Kmd, Guess right?
Not at all. Thought you were EK. But the way my gut said you were scummy and I couldn't figure out why is kind of explained by it being you. :lol:
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