Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[ZazieR]

The 'Mysterious Girl has woken up the sleepy player' votecount

1) Kmd4390

2) mykonian (2) - PhilyEc, Kmd4390

3) Wolf (1) - PaperPenguin
4) Ztife
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi (1) - Battousai
10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (2) - Tenchi, Iecerint
12) PaperPenguin (1) - Mafiamann

Not voting (4) - mykonian, Wolf, Ztife, Looker

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.

Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library - Wolf, Battousai, PaperPenguin

Room 4: ???
Room 5: ???
Room 6: Dark Room - Mafiamann

Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc

Room 8: Great Hall - Iecerint

Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov

Room 10: Empty Room
Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room - Looker

Room 13: Exit Room - mykonian

Room 14: ???

Corridor - Ztife, Tenchi

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

[Kreriov]

@MafiaMann - Batt really does have a good point, actually. It really does seem like Tenchi was looking for an excuse to vote Batt. I couple that with him then jumping wagons to vote PhilyEc then back to Batt, and it really seems like Tenchi is happy to just be voting someone, anyone.

Vote: Tenchi

[PhilyEc]

@MafiaMann - Batt really does have a good point, actually. It really does seem like Tenchi was looking for an excuse to vote Batt. I couple that with him then jumping wagons to vote PhilyEc then back to Batt, and it really seems like Tenchi is happy to just be voting someone, anyone.

Vote: Tenchi

I completely agree with you for once, Tenchi didnt ever want answers, he wanted a reason to vote for Batt and continue to pressure him. Tenchi you do realise how scummy that looks right? Why did you even ask Batt rhetorical questions if you'd already made up your mind on him?

[mykonian]

sorry people, having some computer problems. Now I'm going home again, things will get better for the weekend, but next week expect low activity. After that, things probably get better.

[Tenchi]

@MafiaMann - Batt really does have a good point, actually. It really does seem like Tenchi was looking for an excuse to vote Batt. I couple that with him then jumping wagons to vote PhilyEc then back to Batt, and it really seems like Tenchi is happy to just be voting someone, anyone.

Vote: Tenchi

I completely agree with you for once, Tenchi didnt ever want answers, he wanted a reason to vote for Batt and continue to pressure him. Tenchi you do realise how scummy that looks right? Why did you even ask Batt rhetorical questions if you'd already made up your mind on him?

Two things will happen here:

1. Either I say OMG I should have voted Battousai at the same time I said my question on him. You all vote for me.
2. I say nothing. You all vote for me.

Rhetorical questions are not meant to be answered. They are asked to drive a point:

my point being is that Battousai should have not entered Room 7.

That is my defense.

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And yes, I am looking for wagons. This is exactly why I (almost) singlehandedly grilled and argued with Philly, putting my neck out there. (Or maybe for a moment you would consider that I am actually trying to find scum here.)

[ZazieR]

sorry people, having some computer problems. Now I'm going home again, things will get better for the weekend, but next week expect low activity. After that, things probably get better.

Noted

[PhilyEc]

Honestly I just wanted the rope to jump with, lol. The other rooms had nothing in it, smelled awful, or was completely dark. The room I went into was more interesting. Besides, wouldn't I already have an evil bunny mask if I was the wolf? Otherwise you would already know I was a wolf. Maybe I'm a vig and wanted a weapon for my powerrole. If your theory is true about the scum having to find that room then it is possible that I am a vig. Not saying I am and not saying I'm not.

my point being is that Battousai should have not entered Room 7

Battousai kinda deflected the actual topic, changing it to the way Tenchi approached him...Battousai, thinks Tenchi is scum for how he interogated him? Its a clear OMGUS looking at things again..

Unvote

Vote Battousai

[Tenchi]

I want to try something...

Tenchi goes to Room 9
Tenchi opens Room 15

[ZazieR]

Once again, Tenchi decides to use his bar code. He goes back to the bedroom, in order to open one of the locked doors there. He keeps his bar code in front of the scanner, and awaits the *beeb*
But no *beeb*
He tries again.
Again, no *beeb*
Once more.
Stll, no *beeb*

The next moment, Kreriov sees him using his head to hit the wall. With as result, Tenchi collapsing on the floor.
The lesson we''ve learned? Listen to the rules of Super Hot Chick, codename ZazieR!

[Looker]

Kreriov's Post 174 - I have a question regarding the whole night-action movement thing. Who is allowed to move and who isn't? And into how many rooms can the move-priviledged go?

Kreriov's Post 175 - Whose thought process birthed the concept of "covering"? As in, to keep Player A from being obvious, he/she should be accompanied by miscellaneous Players B-J?

Tenchi's Post 177 - Was the room that Battousai entered already unlocked and previously discovered or was he the first to enter it?

Battousai's Post 185 - I don't believe your flaunting of powerrole allegations. I think you're jumping to conclusions.

Tenchi's Post 188 - Whose idea was it that room's trigger certain abilities? And vigilante...?

Kreriov's Post 201 - When you say that Tenchi jumped wagons, were the jumps accompanied with reasoning or would you consider them baseless?

Phily's Post 206 - I'm not believing Battousai's "You just wanted me to say I'm a powerrole" deal.

vote: Ztife

Just to put us on the map

Ok. I thought KMD was in Room number 7 and you just went into Room number 7.

My bad.

Vote: Battousai

LOL Kinda.

Battousai is suspicious still in my book all this time. However, I thought you were accusing/deflecting onto Battousai when "the fact" WAS you did the same thing. (I thought KMD opened Door 7. Battousai went in. And then you went and pranced into Door 7. Then with the way you defended yourself (which again I took out of context) I thought you were a worse liar) So I questioned you about that.

Sorry about that.

How is Battousai suspicious in your book? What did he do?

Let's create codenames for everyone so that MafiaMann can help us with stuff.

I want mine to be

"the guy with glasses"[/b].

Battousai, why did you move to Room number 7? Do you need an Evil Bunny mask to do your stuff?

Why did you post this question only to vote me after I answered? That implied that you had an acceptable answer in which I could have responded. What could I have said that would make you not want to vote me?

Good question. But I believe I can use a rhetorical question in my arguments just like you did in one of your posts.

The truth of the matter is I suspect you already just because you went straight into that room.

Vote: Tenchi

You could have voted me in the first post instead of asking a rhetorical question. This implies to me that you were trying to get me to say something in which you could infer that I have a powerrole.

So you're voting Tenchi because you believe him to have been fishing for your alleged "powerrole"?

[Tenchi]

Tenchi's Post 177 - Was the room that Battousai entered already unlocked and previously discovered or was he the first to enter it?

1. Philly Opened Room 7
2. ZazieR revealed the room was a Storage Room (lots of scary stuff)
3. Batousai moves into it.
4. I grill him.

Tenchi's Post 188 - Whose idea was it that room's trigger certain abilities? And vigilante...?

+ My original idea is: Scum needs stuff from Room 7 to perform a kill.
+ Batousai's defense is: A Vigilante might need to go into Room 7. (He brought the vigilante talk first I think) Found it: here is where he mentioned the vig thing: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 72#1719972
+ PaperPenguin revealed some spoilers about the manga that might tell how night actions work: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 28#1722628

[Tenchi]

Once again, Tenchi decides to use his bar code. He goes back to the bedroom, in order to open one of the locked doors there. He keeps his bar code in front of the scanner, and awaits the *beeb*
But no *beeb*
He tries again.
Again, no *beeb*
Once more.
Stll, no *beeb*

The next moment, Kreriov sees him using his head to hit the wall. With as result, Tenchi collapsing on the floor.
The lesson we''ve learned? Listen to the rules of Super Hot Chick, codename ZazieR!

*sigh* oh wells...

Tenchi leaves Room 9

[Looker]

Thank you, Tenchi, both have been noted.

Battousai's Post 83 - Awful wordage, which could have impacted my judgment. I'm saying why try and throw the vig thing out there? Why not simply refute the allegations or something like that? Never mind, I'm still reading.

PaperPenguin's Post 156 - Do you know where I can find information on this manga?

[ZazieR]

The 'nightmare continues...' votecount

1) Kmd4390
2) mykonian (1) - Kmd4390
3) Wolf (1) - PaperPenguin
4) Ztife (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi (2) - Battousai, Kreriov
10) PhilyEc

11) Battousai (3) - Tenchi, Iecerint, PhilyEc

12) PaperPenguin (1) - Mafiamann

Not voting (3) - mykonian, Wolf, Ztife

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.

Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library - Wolf, Battousai, PaperPenguin

Room 4: ???
Room 5: ???
Room 6: Dark Room - Mafiamann

Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc

Room 8: Great Hall - Iecerint

Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov

Room 10: Empty Room
Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room - Looker

Room 13: Exit Room - mykonian

Room 14: ???

Corridor - Ztife, Tenchi

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

PaperPenguin, Wolf and Kmd4390 will be prodded today

[Tenchi]

Mod: Phily is voting Battousai, not me.

[ZazieR]

Mod: Phily is voting Battousai, not me.

Fixed now though >.<

[Tenchi]

Mod: Phily is voting Battousai, not me.

Fixed now though >.<

Awesome Sexy hot chick mod

[Kmd4390]

Kmd4390 will be prodded today

No need.

[Kreriov]

@Looker - I have no idea how night moves work. Others, not I, have speculated that closed doors do not hinder scum, which seems to be the case from the limited manga I have seen. As for the idea of moving into rooms to cover a power role who many need to move into a room to function, that was PaperPenguin's idea and one I consider a good one.

Finally, as to Tenchi jumping wagons, yes, I consider it baseless. It really seems to me he jumped onto PhilyEc's wagon as soon as he could but then when it seemed like I was going to accept PhilyEc's explanation that it was a mistake choosing room 7 instead of room 10, he basically came up with a lame excuse to jump back to Batt. I am not saying the case against Batt is bad, it just seems more like opportunism to me on Tenchi's part.

[PhilyEc]

@Looker - I have no idea how night moves work. Others, not I, have speculated that closed doors do not hinder scum, which seems to be the case from the limited manga I have seen. As for the idea of moving into rooms to cover a power role who many need to move into a room to function, that was PaperPenguin's idea and one I consider a good one.

Finally, as to Tenchi jumping wagons, yes, I consider it baseless. It really seems to me he jumped onto PhilyEc's wagon as soon as he could but then when it seemed like I was going to accept PhilyEc's explanation that it was a mistake choosing room 7 instead of room 10, he basically came up with a lame excuse to jump back to Batt. I am not saying the case against Batt is bad, it just seems more like opportunism to me on Tenchi's part.

How is it opportunism when hes the only one on Batt's back? Its a dodgy move on Batt's part and Batt has done nothing to help explain, rather hes being indirect.

[Kmd4390]

29* During the night, you’ll stay at the room you have last moved to during the day, with the exceptions of possible night actions.

So there's no need to all go to the library. Power roles can move at night.

Also, why are we assuming that there is a cop?

And why are Myko and Tenchi both still alive?

[Tenchi]

....he basically came up with a lame excuse to jump back to Batt. I am not saying the case against Batt is bad, it just seems more like opportunism to me on Tenchi's part.

My argument for suspecting Philly was based on a horrible misunderstanding of the situation and your case on him. If you read my initial suspicions of Philly, it was about him being dodgy/deflecting stuff + the same stuff I suspected Battousai for (going into Room 7).

I did not "change" my stance in the middle of the argument like you want to suggest. I did not make an "excuse". Rather, the original thoughts of me suspecting Philly was flawed, which makes the whole grilling of him, from me, flawed and invalid from the start. A responsible townie only should back off if that is the case.

[Tenchi]

And why are Myko and Tenchi both still alive?

What's the case on Mykonian?

[Kmd4390]

I'll read in a second, but the game is up and I have a non-random vote to make. That's right. No RVS for me.

btw, Hello KMD, Tenchi, Phily, nice to see you again!

and of course Looker. I hope will have fun this game (I promise I won't try too hard to get you lynched this time)

Vote Mykonian

. The only way you could make that promise is if you know Looker's alignment. The only way you know Looker's alignment is if you are scum. Myko is scum.

[Tenchi]

Mykonian/Looker: can you explain the context of the post quoted by KMD above?