Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[PhilyEc]

29* During the night, you’ll stay at the room you have last moved to during the day, with the exceptions of possible night actions.

So there's no need to all go to the library. Power roles can move at night.

Also, why are we assuming that there is a cop?

And why are Myko and Tenchi both still alive?

Myko was being his generally friendly self and Tenchi thought you opened Room 7? Do you think Tenchi is lying?

[Kmd4390]

Tenchi thought

I

opened room 7? When was this?

[PhilyEc]

Ok. I thought KMD was in Room number 7 and you just went into Room number 7.

My bad.

Vote: Battousai

^ That

[Kmd4390]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

[Kmd4390]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

Kind of a "Oh, look. Something weird happened. I'm gonna jump on this now."

[Tenchi]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

Kind of a "Oh, look. Something weird happened. I'm gonna jump on this now."

Well, we gotta start somewhere.

You can at least give me props for getting discussion started, especially with relation to the rooms. :-p

[PhilyEc]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

Kind of a "Oh, look. Something weird happened. I'm gonna jump on this now."

Well, we gotta start somewhere.

You can at least give me props for getting discussion started, especially with relation to the rooms. :-p

But if Battousai could enter the room during Night Phase (like kmd pointed out) why would he do you now of all times? I'd like your opinion on that.

[Battousai]

To all of you who had said I should have directly refuted tenchi's case of only scum would go into that room, I did. I said my reason in my second post after confirm. And in case you didn't believe that, my fifth post says the word Honestly. It just that people don't believe me and by people I mainly mean Tenchi. There are multiple reasons why someone would go into that room and from the information we HAVE, there is only 1.

From what we know, the only reason why anyone would go in there is because.... they wanted to, they had no motive other than just messing around.

Now if you start to speculate....

the reasons could be that scum have to find the storeroom, and go in it to be able to kill. A town vig has to find the storeroom, and go in it to be able to use his/her ability. And the last reason would be the same if you didn't speculate, that town had no reason.

Tenchi FOCUSED on that single reason, while assuming with no basis that scum had to go there to use their NK, without even considering any other reason, which is a scumtrait to focus on the scummiest thing someone does to get them lynched. That is why I brought up the fact he asked me a question, got a reply, and didn't care and voted me. He wanted me to say something that could possibly hint at me being a powerrole. Plus there is the sideeffect of looking like you aren't just pushing the scummiest reason.

[Kmd4390]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

Kind of a "Oh, look. Something weird happened. I'm gonna jump on this now."

Well, we gotta start somewhere.

You can at least give me props for getting discussion started, especially with relation to the rooms. :-p

"I was scummy, but now we are talking" is NOT a defense.

[Tenchi]

"I was scummy, but now we are talking" is NOT a defense.

Nope. You are considering me scummy for pointing out things I notice instead of being silent.

[Kmd4390]

No, you are scummy for "noticing" crap. Batt's play wasn't scummy. Just different.

[Ztife]

Oo...

Questions:
Is mykonian considered been in room 7 before, since he has to technically pass it to open room 13?
Regarding night powers, are there any significance to locking doors have to night powers? For instance, do night powers work whether doors are locked or not, does their spell work from behind the locked doors, meaning cop powers work even though he's alone in a locked room, without "moving out" of the room at night?

Or to rephrase, does night powers work regardless of lock doors or not or it depends on the individual flavour?

The manga looks cool, imma go read it up now =)

Ztife enters Room 3 (Library)

[PhilyEc]

No, you are scummy for "noticing" crap. Batt's play wasn't scummy. Just different.

So you believe Batt's excuse and dont believe Tenchi made a mistake about me?

[Kmd4390]

I don't think Batt did anything scummy. He says he has no key, so it makes sense to follow someone into a room. Night actions don't depend on what room you are in during the day according to the rules.

And I believe Tenchi about making a mistake about you. What made you think I didn't?

[ZazieR]

Oo...

Questions:
Is mykonian considered been in room 7 before, since he has to technically pass it to open room 13?
Regarding night powers, are there any significance to locking doors have to night powers? For instance, do night powers work whether doors are locked or not, does their spell work from behind the locked doors, meaning cop powers work even though he's alone in a locked room, without "moving out" of the room at night?

Or to rephrase, does night powers work regardless of lock doors or not or it depends on the individual flavour?

Mykonian walked right through to the door, so he was in room 7, but he didn''t investigate the room. So possible items would not have been picked up by him.

29* During the night, you’ll stay at the room you have last moved to during the day, with the exceptions of possible night actions.

[PhilyEc]

Oh. Yeah. Forgot about that.

I'm more concerned with the way Tenchi went after Batt. Looked too easy and forced.

^ I wasnt sure what you were thinking about Tenchi's grilling of me in that post.

Also, Batt's excuse for entering Room 7 is that he wanted to skip rope. I can understand someone being random but theres alot more appropriate places to act randomly than in a game where scum will be sneaking around rooms with the intension to create havoc. Room 7 is also the worst possible place to 'randomly walk into' so why the hell should we believe that he was just feeling random? It seems like a really bad excuse >.>

[Battousai]

So from my previous post, if you feel my previous post is right and I am assuming you do for this question since you did not saying anything contrary, that means the only possibly explanation would be that you are assuming scum or vig need to go to that room. Is that right PhilyEc?

[Tenchi]

I don't think Batt did anything scummy. He says he has no key, so it makes sense to follow someone into a room.

Night actions

don't depend on what room you are in during the day according to the rules.

Please quote the appropriate rules clause.

[Kmd4390]

Batt already did:

29* During the night, you’ll stay at the room you have last moved to during the day, with the

exceptions of possible night actions

.

[PaperPenguin]

"but he didn''t investigate the room. So possible items would not have been picked up by him. " - mod

Wait, what?

[Looker]

Kreriov's Post 218 - So you believe the possibility of opportunism overrules the reasoning of Tenchi's case, am I right? It doesn't matter whether it's true or not, it's opportunistic. That seems to be a limited point of view. I think you should actually see if you

believe

Tenchi's case. It would make your argument stronger if you didn't; however, at the moment, it appears you're being lazy or hasty by slapping "opportunism" on the whole ordeal and calling it a day.

I appreciate your input, you're very helpful.

Phily's Post 219 - What do you mean? How has Battousai been indirect?

Tenchi's Post 224 - Surely I can't explain the context, for only KMD can truly accomplish this, but I can state my opinion of it.

I'll read in a second, but the game is up and I have a non-random vote to make. That's right. No RVS for me.

btw, Hello KMD, Tenchi, Phily, nice to see you again!

and of course Looker. I hope will have fun this game (I promise I won't try too hard to get you lynched this time)

Vote Mykonian

. The only way you could make that promise is if you know Looker's alignment. The only way you know Looker's alignment is if you are scum. Myko is scum.

From my initial read, it looks to me that KMD makes a valid point. The only way that Mykonian

could

make this promise and still play to win would be if he knew my alignment; however, it is entirely possible that KMD is simply reading too far into this. Mykonian and I spent the entire game trying to kill each other last time and I believe it was to this that he was referring in that first post.

KMD's Post 229 - But once again, do you believe his case? It's not enough to simply state that he was jumping on people, you have to argue the validity of his words. Was he telling the truth or making things up? These could be critical to your arguments and cases against him.

Battousai's Post 232 - Do you feel as if everyone is turning against you or

tunneling

in on you? If so, you should express this and assess those whom are both stating suspicions of you and voting you. There could lie the scum. That is, of course, if you, yourself, aren't scum and your fellow partners aren't bussing you.

And you must understand it's hard to believe someone right off the bat, so, usually,I would think it necessary to continually press an issue if you are suspicious of it. But speaking of, when you entered the Storage Room, what was that item that you picked up?

Ztife's Post 236 - Good to have you aboard, Ztife.

Phily's Post 240 - It would seem a really bad excuse

if

you believed that entering certain rooms triggered certain abilities. So what ability do you think he triggered, PhilyEc?

And also...

Ok. I thought KMD was in Room number 7 and you just went into Room number 7.

My bad.

Vote: Battousai

LOL Kinda.

Battousai is suspicious still in my book all this time. However, I thought you were accusing/deflecting onto Battousai when "the fact" WAS you did the same thing. (I thought KMD opened Door 7. Battousai went in. And then you went and pranced into Door 7. Then with the way you defended yourself (which again I took out of context) I thought you were a worse liar) So I questioned you about that.

Sorry about that.

How is Battousai suspicious in your book? What did he do?

Let's create codenames for everyone so that MafiaMann can help us with stuff.

I want mine to be

"the guy with glasses"[/b].

Battousai, why did you move to Room number 7? Do you need an Evil Bunny mask to do your stuff?

Why did you post this question only to vote me after I answered? That implied that you had an acceptable answer in which I could have responded. What could I have said that would make you not want to vote me?

Good question. But I believe I can use a rhetorical question in my arguments just like you did in one of your posts.

The truth of the matter is I suspect you already just because you went straight into that room.

Vote: Tenchi

You could have voted me in the first post instead of asking a rhetorical question. This implies to me that you were trying to get me to say something in which you could infer that I have a powerrole.

So you're voting Tenchi because you believe him to have been fishing for your alleged "powerrole"?

Paper Penguin's Post 244 - Got me at the last minute, but, yes, indeed.

MOD

: How do we go about investigating these rooms...?

[Looker]

And

MOD

: Can we get that color-code legend as a NOTE on the votecount post because I keep forgettin'...

[Looker]

Crap, sorry - AND DOES CLOSED MEAN LOCKED?

[PhilyEc]

So from my previous post, if you feel my previous post is right and I am assuming you do for this question since you did not saying anything contrary, that means the only possibly explanation would be that you are assuming scum or vig need to go to that room. Is that right PhilyEc?

Well to do that you'd have to be unaware of the rules. You couldve gotten your items by night if we simply assume your role required you to get into that room..

I'm seeing the move as random more and more now, I think you went in there just being playful ._. Dont do that anyway, if you aren't scum you're taking attention away from more appropriate suspects. You admit it was a bad move right?

[PhilyEc]

Oh and

unvote