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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:59 pm

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Unvote

Vote: Zee


Zee is scummy. Kast isn't going to get lynched. It cancels out Zee's vote.


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-ZEEnon (4): caf19, ZEEnon, ortolan, Empking
-Empking (3): Gorrad, Kast, sirdanilot
-AceMarksman (1): Riceballtail

Not voting (2): killa seven, AceMarksman

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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:46 am

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Uh yeah, so i'm the person scum are pushing?
I don't expect Empking to explain, since I don't think he has reasons,
but Ortolan, why are you voting me?
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:48 am

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Just because I said i'm not trying this game doesn't mean i'll be an easy mislynch. ;)
Ortolan, you have not asked me questions nor interacted with me.
Why not question me before your obviously random and unexplained vote?
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:50 am

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If it's to do with my play, you need to go and look at my meta.
If you don't, you obviously don't care and are scum looking for an easy lynch.
Let me just tell you, you aren't going to get it.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:38 pm

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I imagine it has to do with your instant defensive vote for self-preservation.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:49 pm

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What would you rather I use my vote for?
On a person that I don't know is town? Sounds like a good idea to me. Hint: Not.
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:03 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:
What would you rather I use my vote for?
On a person that I don't know is town? Sounds like a good idea to me. Hint: Not.
I support this statement, though not necessarily the person saying it.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:57 am

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Gorrad wrote:
ZEEnon wrote:
What would you rather I use my vote for?
On a person that I don't know is town? Sounds like a good idea to me. Hint: Not.
I support this statement, though not necessarily the person saying it.
Trying to use your special vote to try and stop the town from getting the lynch they want is pretty scummy.
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:05 am

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RBT (1804) wrote:I imagine it has to do with your instant defensive vote for self-preservation.
That and the fact you apparently have no explanation for why your vote counts for -1. That seems bizarre to me.
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:17 am

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uh zee this is horrible


I know that I havent been putting major effort into this game either, but you refuse to do any kind of scumhunting whatsoever. instead you try to protect yourself with your negative vote. try to defend yourself as much as possible, but don't use your negative vote since it will only make you more suspicious.

instead give us a fos on the person you find the most scummy (more or less counting as a vote).

just try ok
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:24 am

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and yes zEEnon I am aware of your meta, but none of the active players in this game have done anything expressly scummy, and I don't think Empking is scummy therefore I turn to the lurking null-tellers like yourself and killah seven

although it seems like months since AceMarskman has posted and I never thought he was particularly town, apart from that I've few problems with Kast but intrinsically distrust him after Notre Dame :P
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:51 am

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AceMarksman is V/LA this weekend. killa seven has been prodded. I can't be there at deadline tomorrow so the deadline is moved to Tuesday June 23, 11 AM GMT.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:03 am

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Trying to use your special vote to try and stop the town from getting the lynch they want is pretty scummy.
You are incorrect and
wrong
.
A negative vote can only be used in one way; to prevent a lynch you feel is wrong.
I know this lynch is wrong, and i'm preventing it. Why is using it in this way wrong?

That and the fact you apparently have no explanation for why your vote counts for -1. That seems bizarre to me.
I
know
I don't read that game, but DO YOU?

I've few problems with Kast but intrinsically distrust him after Notre Dame :P
Kast's posts annoy me just like they did in Notre Dame Mafia.
At least they keep the discussion going though.

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Right now I have a scum vibe from Riceballtail.
He/she/it just popped in and contributed to my vote situation without even saying anything on the matter.

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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:26 am

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are we going to force zeenon to claim or not? I am not sure since we already got an empking claim, however the negative vote thing is iffy.

I am pretty sure this game is very scum dominated since it has become very inactive. How different was it back earlier, when I had to read 10 extra pages that had popped up while reading the game, and every day I could hardly keep up reading the game because there was like one page a day... now it's only a few posts if even that.

The only way to change this would be a very intensive investigation. I think that at least one of the people most of us consider town (ace, ortolan) are scum. However this is just a hunch that I cannot back up with info others don't have.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:05 am

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are we going to force zeenon to claim or not?
This is the most scummy thing i've ever seen this game.

I am not sure since we already got an empking claim
Empking claimed?
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:58 pm

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sirdan (1813) wrote:The only way to change this would be a very intensive investigation. I think that at least one of the people most of us consider town (ace, ortolan) are scum. However this is just a hunch that I cannot back up with info others don't have.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:56 pm

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I want votes from AceMarksman and killah seven and then a claim out of whoever is going to be lynched if it's not Empking (Empking's not scum though). I would very much like to lynch killah seven considering he's not even laid down a vote. He's probably scum.

Also, the last time Gorrad had a bizarre role which someone referred to, was that in another of Lawrencelot's games?
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:51 pm

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sirdanilot wrote:
killa seven wrote:How the hell am i being a troll? you asked the mod to not prod me which is part of the rules, what am i suppose to say? im not "spamming" or trolling.
Who cares if I asked the mod not to prod you? I did that
because
you are trolling.

It's not so much you are spamming, it's that you are ruining the fun of others by intentionally not participating.

Want to prove you are not a sad troll who spends most of his life in front of the computer? Then answer these questions.

1. Who do you think is scum?
2. Why are you not voting Empking?
4. Why are you not voting anyone, in fact? Do you not suspect anyone?
5. What is your alignment? What is your win condition?

There's probably a whole lot more, but at least this is going to be some sort of a start.

If you refuse to answer this, then congratulations, you will have earned the award of being the saddest person on the internet. Or alternatively just replace out and at least get us a deadline extension.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:09 pm

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Yup! I was the Narrator. I got to write all the flavor, and when I died no roles were revealed. I got lynched D1. Don't outguess the mod.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:17 pm

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yer that's right

it's ok, it doesn't make me more skeptical of the claim, as the narrator wasn't really overpowered per se anyway.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:23 pm

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TBH, I was more of a burden on the town. It was a fun role for the two pieces I did write, though! : D
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:21 pm

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Narrator was overpowered in favor of the scum (even though it was a town role).

Zeenon how was that scummy.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:19 am

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Hope you all enjoyed your weekends and late happy father's day to any dads.

I don't see anything really changing. It's interesting to see people voting ZEEnon, but if everyone's telling the truth about how many votes they have then it's still 5 real votes on Empking and 2 real votes on ZEEnon. Not much change.

@ZEEnon wagon-
If ZEEnon is scum, he probably knows that at least one of myself or Gorrad is telling the truth about our double vote (and possibly he knows/suspects we both are telling the truth), so he would know/suspect that he is safely out of range of needing to claim.

Even if he is a townie, it would be unlikely for scum to lie about something easily demonstrable like number of votes, so he probably would still feel safe in not claiming.

I don't think it is wrong for a townie to self-vote if they have a negative vote and think they may be a viable lynch candidate.

Anyway, deadline is coming soon. I see no reason to move my vote.

@ZEEnon-
What do you mean by the comment that RBT contributed to your vote situation? I don't see RBT voting you and I believe RBT claimed a 0 vote.

@Ort-
AceM was really the principal reason SK was lynched. I strongly think AceM is non-MK. I believe most other players have the same understanding of that. Not definitely town, but almost definitely not MK.

@K7-
You promised a post. Is that going to happen?
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:05 pm

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Don't have time for a long post right now (hopefully i'll get one in before deadline), but i'll just say i'm keeping my vote on Zee. His defence didn't impress me at all.

Emp is still at a deadline majority i think, so i'm not endangering anything.
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:23 pm

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It would be ideal for sirdanilot to switch his vote to me so that we can prove my -1 vote, right?
Also, caf19's last post was extremely scummy.

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