Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[Tenchi]

Don't use my meta in defending me. I don't need it.

Um. If his read on you comes from meta, why is he wrong to say simply that?

It is a pet peeve of mine. Unless it is random voting stage, I never use previous games as basis on how somebody should act. Nobody should too. I don't like such arguments.

[Ztife]

Zitfe Moves to Room 3
Ztife Moves to Corridor
Ztife Moves to Room 7
Ztife Moves to Corridor
Ztife Moves to Room 8
Ztife Moves to Corridor
Ztife Moves to Room 9
Ztife Moves to Corridor
Ztife Moves to Room 12
Ztife Moves to Corridor.
Ztife Moves to Room 13.

For Night Phase we'll all have to get into groups of three thus using 4 rooms. Any suggestions on which rooms they should be?

Note: Room 7 is open to anyone now

I agree with the spirit of Ztife's suggestion, too, but are you (and Ztife) implicitly promoting NL today?

No. Its just that I haven't found a significant suspicion to pursue at this moment, and I'm more interested in how the flavour works, its the way I click.

Zt and Paper, why haven't you used your keys?

Zt, how do we benefit from sharing where our keys are?

Like I said, revealing where the keys are might help us later when we can chop off certain parts of the body to open doors that were past open. For instance, if Philly dies later and gets locked up in the storage room by himself, we be forever denied access to the exit room.

The wolf has the key to all the doors, so why does key revelation hold so much suspicion? I can't seem to see a reason why it would be bad though at this point of time. I think the fact about whether

you have a key or not

is more important for the wolf to know for strategic reasons, but at this point of time its probably useless information.

I have not used my keys because I don't want to use it yet, and I do not see a need for it.


Has anybody picked up any flash light, axes? Also I forgot to mention, if the wolf have a cellphone, you are not a true wolf! So let us know you are the wolf and we can help you xD

[Iecerint]

The wolf has the key to all the doors, so why does key revelation hold so much suspicion?

That's true, but in that case I don't really understand the point of having hidden barcodes at all. More via Chekhov's Gun than anything else, I suspect that revealing code locations will hurt us.

[ZazieR]

Wolf asked to be replaced. Thanks for telling and good luck
Looking for a replacement

[ZazieR]

Bitchibee replaces Wolf. Thanks a lot

[PhilyEc]

Mod: Are we able to chop off body parts from dead members? Does the axe make this possible?

[ZazieR]

Mod: Are we able to chop off body parts from dead members? Does the axe make this possible?

Body parts will be chopped off if you can get to the dead player's body. My lovely assistants will help you with that

[Iecerint]

@ Kmd

Kmd prior stated that we should keep doors locked so that discussion would be required before a player was granted access to a room. Since his door was (is) still locked, I thought he would probably require rationale before allowing access.

Please?

[Kmd4390]

Has anybody picked up any flash light, axes?

This is scummy.

@ Kmd

Kmd prior stated that we should keep doors locked so that discussion would be required before a player was granted access to a room. Since his door was (is) still locked, I thought he would probably require rationale before allowing access.

Please?

I wasn't the one who said that. I locked my door in agreement with the plan.

[ZazieR]

1) Kmd4390
2) mykonian (1) - Kmd4390
3) Wolf (1) - PaperPenguin
4) Ztife (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov

9) Tenchi (2) - Battousai, Kreriov

10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (1) - Tenchi
12) PaperPenguin (2) - Mafiamann, Mykonian

Not voting (4) - Wolf, Ztife, Iecerint, PhilyEc

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.

Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library - Wolf, PaperPenguin

Room 4: ???
Room 5: ???
Room 6: Dark Room - Mafiamann

Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall - Kreriov
Room 9: Bedroom - Battousai

Room 10: Empty Room
Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room - Looker, Iecerint
Room 13: Exit Room - Ztife

Room 14: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.

Corridor - Tenchi

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

Mafiamann will be prodded

[ZazieR]

So

MOD

, which person is PaperPenguin really voting for? Did this vote not count?

As stated in the VC after he had made that vote, PaperPenguin did not unvote, and therevore that vote didn't count.

[ZazieR]

29* During the night, you’ll stay at the room you have last moved to during the day, with the exceptions of possible night actions.

MOD: I honestly am confused. Please rephrase/give an example. Thanks.

It's possible that some players can leave their room during the night.

[Battousai]

Battousai moves to room 12

Ok, if we are going to do the 3 per room bit, I suggest we do the following:

Players 1-4 will each pick two players from players 5-12 to go into a room together. Then the odd players from 5-11 will pick one person from players 1-4 to go into a room with a different pair than their own. (For example player1 picks 5,7; 2 picks 6,12; 3 picks 8,9; 4 picks 10,11; player 5 picks 1 to join 6,12; 7 picks 4 to join 8,9; 9 picks 2 to join 10,11; 11 picks 3 to join 5,7; final groups will be 1,6,12; 2,10,11; 3,5,7; 4,8,9 then when someone is lynched, they will drop from their group. This way scum cannot influence the groupings to join with eachother. I don't agree that doing this will help the town see who leaves the room as someone suggested, though.

Bitchibee- Any thoughts up to this point?

[MafiaMann]

Im assuming we wont have 3 peopl3 in my room because that would lead to a massive post restriction

[Battousai]

All we need is 4 rooms, we can skip that room.

[MafiaMann]

In that case

Open door 6

Enter corridor

[Kreriov]

Well, as I said before, I have no problem being a guinea pig.

Kreriov moves to room 6

[ZazieR]

Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library - Bitchibee, PaperPenguin

Room 4: ???
Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room - Kreriov
Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom
Room 10: Empty Room

Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room - Looker, Iecerint, Battousai
Room 13: Exit Room - Ztife

Room 14: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.

Corridor - Tenchi, Mafiamann

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

Only a Room Count as there hasn''t been a change regarding the votes

[Kreriov]

Hmm, no PR here. Looks like it was a one shot deal.

[Iecerint]

I guess I'll go into the last two rooms I haven't yet:

Iecerint moves to Corridor.
Iecerint moves to Room 6 (Dark Room).
Iecerint moves to Corridor.
Iecerint moves to Room 10 (Empty Room).

So I've now been in every room except the Male Restroom. Kmd, do you plan on allowing anyone access to your room? If so, under what circumstances would you grant access? If not, why not?

[Looker]

Looker moves to Corridor, moves to Room 6, leaves Room 6, moves to Room 10, leaves Room 10, moves to Room 12 and closes Room 12

Hello, Icerint.

[Tenchi]

So I guess the safe assumption is that we have power roles that need to be triggered by going into the rooms? Because from what I am seeing here is that we have people possibly masking power roles or the power role people are getting their powers or the power people are just waiting in the corridor.

I have a suggestion. How about we vote for the Towniest person and let that person decide on the groupings?

[Battousai]

How bout no. As it is only D1, it could be easy for town to pick scum to decide groupings since they already would have the total scum members and convincing 3 or so others wouldn't be hard.

At least with my way there is no way scum could influence all of the groupings.

[PhilyEc]

11 players going into night phase on Day One.

I suggest the following trios. IF someone gets lynched then one trio becomes a pair.

Room 1

1) Kmd4390
2) mykonian
3) Bitchibee Wolf

Room 12

4) Ztife
5) Looker
6) Iecerint

Room 9

7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi

Room 7

10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai
12) PaperPenguin

@All: This okay or is anything wrong with that setup?

[Tenchi]

How bout no. As it is only D1, it could be easy for town to pick scum to decide groupings since they already would have the total scum members and convincing 3 or so others wouldn't be hard.

At least with my way there is no way scum could influence all of the groupings.

First of all, your suggestion is quite complicated. And whatever suggestion there may be (mine or yours), it will always have some scum manipulation into it. After all, somebody has to make a choice, and we are nowhere certain that those somebodies or that somebody would be Townies.

Now, my suggestion is hinged on the fact that most games start with a Townie lynch. Not to mention statistically speaking, it is easier to pick a Townie than scum (if you somehow decided to pick randomly).

Also, your attack on my suggestion assumes that:
1. Scum would vote together, and
2. One scum would vote for themselves.
If they do 1 or 2, they risk a high chance of being outed (see last point below).

Finally, this adds another layer of information. Scum will either pick the really towniest person out there, or risk being outed because they tried to weasel in their suggestion of voting for Person X. In other words, we all have to justify our votes.