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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:52 pm

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No, actually, I said the scum aren't bussing you, wich is the opposite of saying that people who vote you are scum.

The comment helped by hopefully making whatever scumbuddies you have that aren't currently voting you a little more nervous and twitchy.
That's awful logic on a number of counts-

It's trying to, in effect, blackmail people into voting for me rather than arguing the point, or explaining why. I got into trouble primarily for not giving enough explanation in my comments about Dr Pepper- and here you're giving no explanation whatsoever.

The idea that the game isn't moving along because scum don't want to vote for me is a silly one- the majority of people aren't voting for me, if scum had a majority the game would be over.

If someone comes and votes for me now, your post seems to indicate that you'd then suspect them for not voting sooner. If people do just vote for me now, based on no new information other than that you consider them scum for not doing so- that doesn't look very townie, does it? That looks like scum trying to minimise the damage, so naturally people wouldn't do it. If everyone else who isn't voting actually did think I was scum, why would you want to make voting for me more difficult for them?

Do you think it's a townie action to vote for someone because of an open threat of being considered scummy if they didn't? Do you think it's townie to say "anyone who doesn't vote this way is scum" in order to push a lynch, rather than argue the point?
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:59 am

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Gorrad wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:It's quite clear that Yos is probably one of the most pro-town people in this game.
It's posts like this that make me love being in every game with Zwet's awe-inspiring scumhunting. How could ANYONE go against this maelstrom of logic?
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:36 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:
Gorrad wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:It's quite clear that Yos is probably one of the most pro-town people in this game.
It's posts like this that make me love being in every game with Zwet's awe-inspiring scumhunting. How could ANYONE go against this maelstrom of logic?
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:22 am

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I need to prove that someone is pro-town?
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:07 am

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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:36 am

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MikeSC6 wrote: Do you think it's a townie action to vote for someone because of an open threat of being considered scummy if they didn't? Do you think it's townie to say "anyone who doesn't vote this way is scum" in order to push a lynch, rather than argue the point?
If I had said that, then no, but that's not what I said. I simply made an observation. There's probably a significant warewolf faction left, and it dosn't feel like there is a group of scum pushing for your lynch right now.

Anyway, I really am basically voting you on gut right now. For much of this game, I've had a scummy vibe from your posting, although I was never really able to articulate why. Sorry if you don't like that as a reason, but it's the truth.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:29 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:I need to prove that someone is pro-town?
Yes. Otherwise we have no reason to believe you.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:43 am

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So... do you think Yos is pro-town?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:38 am

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Irrelevant. I'm split on the issue, but leaning towards town.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:06 am

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So zwets, is your read mostly from when you pursued Yos's rolefishing? Has Yos done anything noteworthy since then? If so, have you noted it?
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:51 am

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No. But he's more involved in scumhunting/not following the general sway without good reasoning than other players.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:19 am

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Haven't been prodded, but I likely would have been before long. I've been away for a few days and I'll have a more substantial post sometime later today.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:43 am

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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:02 am

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As most of you probably already know, I am going to be V/LA for the beach bash. Will be leaving later this evening.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:30 am

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If I had said that, then no, but that's not what I said. I simply made an observation. There's probably a significant warewolf faction left, and it dosn't feel like there is a group of scum pushing for your lynch right now.

Anyway, I really am basically voting you on gut right now. For much of this game, I've had a scummy vibe from your posting, although I was never really able to articulate why. Sorry if you don't like that as a reason, but it's the truth.
Fair enough, there's nothing I can really argue against there. I'll have to find out what it is that's making my posts seem scummy and excise it for the future, though- I've heard that quite a few times!

If there are any questions about my posts or anything like that, I'm still open- if you do have any it might be a good idea to get them answered while I'm still alive.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:11 pm

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ATTN ALL: I will be V/LA for approximately a month beginning this Sunday. However, I will be posting regularly for one and a half weeks of that month. If you feel a need for me to be replaced, please do so, but I would like to stay in my games. Thanks
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:12 pm

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(5)dramonic: NabakovNabakov, Gorrad, DizzyIzzyB13, Starbuck, Ztife
(4)MikeSC6: The Replacement, Jahudo, Yosarian2
(1)The Replacement: Rockatansky
(1)zwetschenwasser: Battle Mage
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(0)Starbuck:
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(0)DizzyIzzyB13:
()Ztife:
()NabakovNabakov:
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Not voting: zwetschenwasser, MikeSC6, dramonic,

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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:48 am

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Mod: Should Juls be removed from the 'not voting' list?


Yes. Oops.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:48 am

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Sheesh, people. POST
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:46 am

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Sheesh, zwets. VOTE

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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:52 pm

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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:07 am

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Jahudo wrote:Sheesh, zwets. VOTE

:D
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:31 am

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MikeSC6, who is your top suspect at the moment and why are you not voting?

dramonic, same question.

With both of you as the leading lynch candidates today I think it would be helpful to the town if you did some scum hunting or let us know where you suspicions are.

zwet, if they were both at L-1 and you still weren't voting which player would you hammer? Or would you not hammer either?
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:55 am

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FoS dramonic
FoS starbuck


You both are posting every day in other games and are active lurking in this game. That is anti-town.

Starbuck has not posted in 15 days on this game but has made almost 200 posts in other areas of the site since that time.

dramonic has made 12 posts in the last 15 days on this game, the most recent being 4 days ago, but has made 24 posts in other games since his last post here.

We know the mod's sent out prods and you've both been on the site. There is no excuse not to give a pro-town sounding update on your reading if you still aren't done yet.

So where are you on your reading?

Same goes for "Mad Max" Rockatansky although he hasn't posted anywhere in a while. Just about 9 posts elsewhere since his last post here 2 weeks ago. Actually, that's good enough for a

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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:27 am

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MikeSC6, who is your top suspect at the moment and why are you not voting?
I do have a suspect, though it's mostly a gut based thing- the case I have is so slight, though, that I'm hesitant to post it up in case it makes that person change their behaviour or avoid making any scummy moves that they might. It's not enough to warrant a vote, I don't think, but if I had to choose right now I would lynch this person. I have expressed some suspicion about this person in the past.

If people want a name and identification of what I feel might be scummy behaviour, I'll post it up, though I'd rather wait and see for a while. And I wouldn't want to divert attention from the discussion about me not justifying my change of opinion about Dr Pepper- i want to get that over with, if there are any questions I'm still open.

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