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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:30 pm

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Hm, I still don't like her excessive fishing about the night results. I also think Brandi's defensiveness about claiming with a deadline less than a week away is a little weird -- why stall if you're the top suspect and time is running out to analyze someone else if the claim is real? And what was that with the "whoops, I quoted my role, oh wait, I didn't, mod said it's ok" line?? I haven't played that many games on this site, but is this stuff generally allowed? Since mod confirmation one way or the other would likely reveal the role, what are the odds of this being a scum gambit?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:55 pm

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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:03 pm

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veerus wrote:Hm, I still don't like her excessive fishing about the night results.
Would you mind elaborating on this a touch, veerus?

No one else respond to this until veerus has a chance.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:20 pm

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veerus wrote:And what was that with the "whoops, I quoted my role, oh wait, I didn't, mod said it's ok" line?? I haven't played that many games on this site, but is this stuff generally allowed? Since mod confirmation one way or the other would likely reveal the role, what are the odds of this being a scum gambit?
Typically, paraphrasing is allowed, word for word quotes are not. In this game, the mod requests but doesn't insist that paraphrases are run past him in order to check they aren't too close to the original. In this case, according to Brandi, she failed to do this, and the mod told her it was ok after she had publicly worried about it.

The sequence of events Brandi claims is a plausible and legal one. She could of course be lying about everything, including the mod pm, to add credence to her claim. I think it has to be a complete nulltell.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:37 am

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Stop lurking People.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:30 am

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Brandi wrote:Stop lurking People.
Stop throwing away your vote. At least give opinions on BMQ.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:31 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:
veerus wrote:And what was that with the "whoops, I quoted my role, oh wait, I didn't, mod said it's ok" line?? I haven't played that many games on this site, but is this stuff generally allowed? Since mod confirmation one way or the other would likely reveal the role, what are the odds of this being a scum gambit?
Typically, paraphrasing is allowed, word for word quotes are not. In this game, the mod requests but doesn't insist that paraphrases are run past him in order to check they aren't too close to the original. In this case, according to Brandi, she failed to do this, and the mod told her it was ok after she had publicly worried about it.

The sequence of events Brandi claims is a plausible and legal one. She could of course be lying about everything, including the mod pm, to add credence to her claim. I think it has to be a complete nulltell.
Fair enough, point taken.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:42 pm

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Gorrad,

What is it that you're not understanding? It seems to me that you're voting her for the same reasons. In addition, now that I re-read this day, she has also made absolutely no attempts to scumhunt which is a drastic departure from her D1 behavior.

On a side note, and this is mostly addressed to the
mod
, but why did we get deadlined only 10 days after the start? And with 2 highly active lurkers/dropouts (hp & lindisframe) present?
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:33 pm

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Furry wrote:
Brandi wrote:Stop lurking People.
Stop throwing away your vote. At least give opinions on BMQ.
What on earth makes you think I'm "throwing away" my vote? Just because I'm not using it doesn't mean I wont change it. It's pretty obvious I'm not hot on your wagon right now despite my vote sitting on you. I will agree that BMQ has been pretty scummy, I'm not sure if he is the scummiest currently though.

Also Veerus, quit trying to AVOID answering other peoples questions by saying a bunch of meaningless crap. ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION. Kthx.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:33 pm

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veerus wrote:And with 2 highly active lurkers/dropouts (hp & lindisframe) present?
It is an interesting inconsistency that you fail to mention BMQ.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:00 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:
veerus wrote:And with 2 highly active lurkers/dropouts (hp & lindisframe) present?
It is an interesting inconsistency that you fail to mention BMQ.
Not quite. His absence has been well documented while the two I named have not been mentioned in quite some time. And of these three, his absense has been explained by the fact he lost his job shortly after the game started. Since the mod seems to replace only at the end of the day, I'm hoping that BMQ will be one of those slated for replacement during the night.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:35 pm

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I'm hoping for a BMQ lynch. He has not contributed much, but what content is there is bad. He fits very well the profile of scum trying to go under the radar while joining any townie wagon going.

The deadline is tomorrow. At deadline, a no lynch occurs. This is a really bad thing.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:05 pm

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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:56 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:I'm hoping for a BMQ lynch. He has not contributed much, but what content is there is bad. He fits very well the profile of scum trying to go under the radar while joining any townie wagon going.

The deadline is tomorrow. At deadline, a no lynch occurs. This is a really bad thing.
I wish I could elaborate more on these thoughts, but I've been very busy.

So for now:
unvote, vote: BMQ
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:49 am

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Crap. I was really hoping this wouldn't be necessary at this stage, but...

BMQ is NOT scum
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BMQ is my Mason partner. The mod has confirmed in our roles that we are both pro-town.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:07 am

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unvote

Role names please.
I'll be checking in again before deadline.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:18 am

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I'm JD, and BMQ is Turk. It's our "Guy Love" that makes us masons.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:14 am

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Very famous scrubs roles, likely to be in game, probably protown, unlikely mafia fakeclaims. I'm fairly convinced.
vote: Brandi

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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:48 am

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Fishythefish wrote:Very famous scrubs roles, likely to be in game, probably protown, unlikely mafia fakeclaims. I'm fairly convinced.
Even though in this case, its mod confirmed, this can be dangerous thinking for future themes. Making "pro-town" characters scum is a favorite for me when I run themes.

Im wondering whats going on though at this point, something feels wrong. I have a leaning town read on Brandi, but that would mean we have run up four town so far.

Im going to read through more and put some thoughts up. Deadline is in about 10 hours I think, so I will be back to hammer on time.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:14 am

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Deadline is more like 8 hours away.
Furry wrote:Even though in this case, its mod confirmed, this can be dangerous thinking for future themes. Making "pro-town" characters scum is a favorite for me when I run themes.
Noted. Thanks.

I still think it's much more likely Tzee and BMQ are masons rather than scum together. Stepping up in this way is a bold move for the scum.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:22 am

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To be honest, Veerus is the most likely scum player here right now. More than BMQ's lurky non-contributing scumminess. It is pretty obvious from the fact that Gorrad was asking him to back up what he was saying about me earlier about "excessive rolefishing" yadda yadda.

If you notice, he ignored that, and talked about other crap. He didn't back it up because he couldn't.

I'm pretty sure Gorrad was just pretending to be on my wagon to see who would follow him. Too bad he isn't posting right now.

I'm more likely to believe Tzee on something than BMQ, but if he says they are town together then:

unvote


I'll vote for the person who I think is most obvious scum:
vote: Veerus


Perhaps after I'm lynched, you can look into Veerus more tomorrow? Kthx.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:40 am

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I agree with Brandi. veerus’s attacks on her have consisted of an appeal to another player’s list of scumtells, although Brandi has not exhibited the tell in question. veerus then goes on to misrepresent Brandi’s own reactions to the night by wildly exaggerating them.
veerus is the worst player on an awful bandwagon. I’ll be back before deadline to hammer Brandi if necessary- my read on her is pretty much neutral, and a VT lynch is hardly worse than NL- but I’d much prefer to lynch veerus.
unvote, vote: veerus
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:33 pm

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=/ why isn't anyone posting? -_- We really do NOT need a no-lynch.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:41 pm

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unvote vote veerus


I would prefer a hp lynch, but still have a slight town read on brandi at this point. The replacement rule really sucks. Its basically 7 alive 5 to lynch
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:38 pm

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Bleh. At this stage, a veerus lynch isn't happening.
unvote, vote: Brandi
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