This is misrepresentation. You use a simile that would create a disgust in a person's mind and as thus make them despise Sajin. You're portratying him as an asshole while you still have no real case on him.Y wrote:
Instead of trying to understand Falko (Like me and Ice), people try to read scum tells into what he's painfully trying to say. It's like hitting a disabled person, because he's the easiest target.
EBWOP: That's why the case on him is null and you're just making up bullshit. This deserves a vote,MafiaSSK wrote:This is misrepresentation. You use a simile that would create a disgust in a person's mind and as thus make them despise Sajin. You're portratying him as an asshole while you still have no real case on him.Y wrote:
Instead of trying to understand Falko (Like me and Ice), people try to read scum tells into what he's painfully trying to say. It's like hitting a disabled person, because he's the easiest target.
Not only that but, like I believe Sajin has, when you have a strong gut read on someone you will try to read into every single word that person has said for a scumtell. Even if people have proved nothing.
That's the thing, though. I gave Falko the benefit of the doubt before. And then it got thrown off by the transcript of his dialogue with Sajin. Not because of how he typed, but because the typing in Sajin's message seemed to correspond more with Falko's writing style than Sajin's.Y wrote:Instead of trying to understand Falko (Like me and Ice), people try to read scum tells into what he's painfully trying to say. It's like hitting a disabled person, because he's the easiest target.
That's funny. Why would you want only Iecerint to understand your messages? See, if it were me, I'd wantfalkomagno wrote:I'm not suspecting of you, I think that you are going deeper in a non existent enviroment. but I have to accept the fact that my grammar can be confusing for some of you.But, no matter how much I suck trying to speak english, it seems like Iecerint got the intention of my messages, so, I think that with just one of you getting, I can go on. Excuse me again for that.
Why are you worried about 4 votes? That's L-3. There's nothing to worry about. You are paranoid and partially because of that you're scum. Not only that, but you haven't even tried to scum hunt or list your suspicions.falkomagno wrote:Again, you are misunderstood me.
I'm not saying that the ideal scenario is that just Iecerint can understand me. For instance, I can write in spanish and Y can traslate to the rest of you. that's not the idea. The ideal scenario is that I could write quite good that can be understandable for all of you.
I apologize for all the misundertood due my grammar, but I was pointed that, at least one of all of you has taking my word in the right sense. I know that you, and Y has doing an effort to understand me, I really appreciate that, and eventually you, or even ash has putting question about what I was writen, and I think that I've been willing to be clear, to clarify all doubts of my behaviour along the game. But, you can see my frustration when, instead build a case, or recognize things clearer, the people are still voting for me, and now I have 4 votes instead 2.
Who would those obvious scum be and why?I don't even know why I am being accused, if is because I take certain time to answer, or because sajin writen in a "suspicious style". It's frustrating because, there is obvious scum trying to capitalize my weakness, and towns that, instead of trying to find the reasons, are judging the shape.
Sajin seems smart, that's all. If "barn" means support or respect, then I barn him because he used logic to condemn his neighbor. If he's scum, then so sue me. If he is scum, then I chose the wrong side of the argument and nothing more. I apologize in advance if Sajin was the antagonist after all. I just believe he's not.Ash wrote:@Zeik: Why so quick to barn Sajin?
Then do you have a word processor of some type at home? Or a translator that you could use, to run through before you post? Because people clearly aren't understanding what you're trying to say, if you truly are innocent.falkomagno wrote:Again, you are misunderstood me.
I'm not saying that the ideal scenario is that just Iecerint can understand me. For instance, I can write in spanish and Y can traslate to the rest of you. that's not the idea. The ideal scenario is that I could write quite good that can be understandable for all of you.
If that's the case, then you need to analyze your own actions. Read back over your own posts, and that of what people have been saying. Analyze them in tandem, and figure out what it is you need to do. That's all I feel I can tell you.falkomagno wrote:I apologize for all the misundertood due my grammar, but I was pointed that, at least one of all of you has taking my word in the right sense. I know that you, and Y has doing an effort to understand me, I really appreciate that, and eventually you, or even ash has putting question about what I was writen, and I think that I've been willing to be clear, to clarify all doubts of my behaviour along the game. But, you can see my frustration when, instead build a case, or recognize things clearer, the people are still voting for me, and now I have 4 votes instead 2.
The wording on that is interesting. Not the saying, but the idea that Sajin wrote in a "suspicious style" as you said. I'm going to have to think about this some more, because I don't think it's quite logical, and not all the other options have been removed yet. Eliminate all other options, and what remains must be the truth.falkomagno wrote:I don't even know why I am being accused, if is because I take certain time to answer, or because sajin writen in a "suspicious style".
Okay, let me make one thing clear. I'm not trying to peg you as scum. I'm trying to find the truth. Right now, the game hasn't shaped itself enough to draw a conclusion either way - I have to analyze things from both angles. As crunch time draws near, I'll definitely lean one way or another with you. But right now, the game hasn't shaped itself enough. If I just pursue you as if you were scum, if I tunnel in on you right now, that doesn't do me any good.falkomagno wrote:It's frustrating because, there is obvious scum trying to capitalize my weakness, and towns that, instead of trying to find the reasons, are judging the shape.
Narrowing your vision so early on? Don't forget that we have two lurkers right now, who haven't even posted extensive analysis. and killa was at least nice enough to prod Sajin for us - Timeater hasn't done a single thing.AshMC1984 wrote:I am still voting you because I rarely leave my vote unused. I am still suspicious of SSKs nonchalant hop on your wagon and Zeik to an extent. This day will most likely end with my vote on you or SSK.
The thing is I've been actively attack Falko ever since. Zeik hasn't so much.AshMC1984 wrote: SSK and Zeik jumped on Falko's wagon too unquestioningly, and haven't added much since and they've had time. I think my vote was better placed before.
Vote: MafiaSSK.
Yeah. That's the same exact thing emotion wise.falkomagno wrote:@SSK...i'm not worry about being lynched. I'm frustated because people are adding to my BW because a confusion, that was properly cleared.
Wait what does this mean?'m not scum hunting harshly, but In my previous posts it's clear that I'm not satify with the fact that Sajin knows the correpondence between you and me before the start of the game, , and his is not your neighbour and doesn't exist a reliable explanation to that. If he flips scum eventually, you would be my top suspect.
Your paranoia of being lynch and your unwillingness to scumhuntWhy are you voting for me?
ZeikHunter wrote:@Mod: Can we get a deadline for the lurkers Timeater and killa seven? If they don't post soon, I'd like some more active replacements.
If I'm reading this right, it means that he thought Sajin knew about you and Falko's speaking during the beginning, since he's not your neighbor.MafiaSSK wrote:Wait what does this mean?'m not scum hunting harshly, but In my previous posts it's clear that I'm not satify with the fact that Sajin knows the correpondence between you and me before the start of the game, , and his is not your neighbour and doesn't exist a reliable explanation to that. If he flips scum eventually, you would be my top suspect.
Sajin's firs post in the game.Sajin wrote:Due to conversations had pre game there is a high chance my neighbor is scum.He was talking to other peopleyet asked me how I was able to talk to him. I told him I searched his name up with the search function and got the pm link from his profile. Only then was his other neighbor contacted likely. Therefore the person/people he was talking to are likely scum. Thanks for the slip.
vote falcomagno
But the emphasis you put on that one part is what I'm having trouble with. Did Falko just write it in a way that made him justY wrote:Sajin's firs post in the game.Sajin wrote:Due to conversations had pre game there is a high chance my neighbor is scum.He was talking to other peopleyet asked me how I was able to talk to him. I told him I searched his name up with the search function and got the pm link from his profile. Only then was his other neighbor contacted likely. Therefore the person/people he was talking to are likely scum. Thanks for the slip.
vote falcomagno
Wouldn't it make more sense to back off of this and put pressure on the lurkers? We're not going to be able to make an informed decision without all the information possible. If there is a lack of info, it is our duty to try to fill it.AshMC1984 wrote:@halflight: I kind of am partially narrowing my vision. With the Sajin / Falko / SSK exchange I think there is a good likelihood of scum being involved. The lurking is a worry but I'd probably be more inclined to lynch on the info instead of the lack of info in this case.
While Falko was actually talking with SSK at the same time, Sajin had no way of knowing so only by reading Falko's PMs (Unless I missed something when I checked and double-checked it, Falko never mentioned nor insinuated that he was talking to some one else). So, how did Sajin know, if he wasn't told so by some one else? I see no other way but being told by SSK, who isn't his neighbor.halflight007 wrote:But the emphasis you put on that one part is what I'm having trouble with. Did Falko just write it in a way that made him justsoundlike he was communicating with others, or was he actually communicating with others? Or does he legitimately think that MafiaSSK is scum, and that's what he was talking about?