MKM II GAME OVER

[killa seven]

How is it scummy?

[ortolan]

@ ort, im notlying i do have a items list and havent recieved any coins so far, you dont have to believe me but after im dead and at end game i would like a apology for calling me a liar.

Because that is both a paranoid - assuming you are going to be lynched ("but after I'm dead and at end game")

; and odd that you would suggest I would feel like I should apologise simply for calling you a liar (obviously one is attempting to deduce who the lying scum are in a mafia game)- the only reason I would apologise to you is if I had misread you with no good reason, or had screwed up the town/mafia's chances of winning, or if I had gone too far with a personal attack or somesuch.

[Gorrad]

K7, this is mafia. I'm an Eagle Scout who prides himself in being trustworthy, and I'm called a liar at least once in most games I'm in, and I don't really care. Lying is part of the game.

[sirdanilot]

ZEEnon is not obv-town at all IMO, but not scummy.

I hate how Ortolan is trying to dictate the claiming order and the lynches of both today and tomorrow. I am beginning to think he is scum. But Kast was even worse in dictating a claiming order while also advocating a random one. If you want to dictate a random claiming order, do so by in-thread dice roll or something.

Who is next? Should I make a fully random dice-rolled claiming order?

[sirdanilot]

Ebwop: One exception though. My claim and RBT's are tied, in a way that I want him to claim first. This is because he claimed to know my role name.

I don't think there are any other situations like that?

[caf19]

Hai everyone. I'm a Hammer Bro.

Naturally, I have to hammer. If I hammer (in the real or visible vote count), I get a coin bonus, immunity to being jumped on that night, and a double vote the next day.

Most days I've tried to hammer in some way. D1, I was intending to hammer, but Law closed the thread before I could due to the effect of double-voters. D2 I placed what would have been the visible hammer but I was confounded by ort's vote not counting. D3 I actually managed it! (and hey sirdan, this might explain why my vote didn't have any other content, I wasn't gonna wait around and miss my chance )

That night, I used my newfound coins to buy an item and use it to kill zwet. (you can thank me all for that now) Also, the mysterious double vote on Zeenon yesterday was mine. It's back to 1 today.

[caf19]

If anyone wants more details about my coin counts at various stages, I can provide them.

Also, RBT please claim next.

[ortolan]

I hate how Ortolan is trying to dictate the claiming order and the lynches of both today and tomorrow. I am beginning to think he is scum.

This is scummy. FYI as I said I was being facetious, plus objectively I am the most confirmed town player as Gorrad has claimed an investigation innocent on me- in order for me to be scum he has to also be scum. (Plus, if I was serious, does scum ever draw attention to themselves like that and blatantly dictate the town's agenda in an aggressive way?)

I believe caf's claim so far. How many coins bonus do you get for hammering caf?

[killa seven]

@ ort, im notlying i do have a items list and havent recieved any coins so far, you dont have to believe me but after im dead and at end game i would like a apology for calling me a liar.

Because that is both a paranoid - assuming you are going to be lynched ("but after I'm dead and at end game")

; and odd that you would suggest I would feel like I should apologise simply for calling you a liar (obviously one is attempting to deduce who the lying scum are in a mafia game)- the only reason I would apologise to you is if I had misread you with no good reason, or had screwed up the town/mafia's chances of winning, or if I had gone too far with a personal attack or somesuch.

meh i was mostly joking when i said that, and i assume that im going to be lynched in all my games.. well because i usually am

[caf19]

I believe caf's claim so far. How many coins bonus do you get for hammering caf?

I get 4. (I also started with 4, which is how I could afford an item N3)

[ortolan]

any particular reason you wanted to kill zwet?

[caf19]

I thought he was scum.

[Gorrad]

I believe Caf, as no sane scum would ever kill Zwet.

[killa seven]

I believe Caf, as no sane scum would ever kill Zwet.

LOL

[ortolan]

RBT is next to claim

Mod: please prod Riceballtail, thanks

[Riceballtail]

RBT is next to claim

Mod: please prod Riceballtail, thanks

This isn't required, I was communicating with Law about my claim.

I am a Spike (Bowser's Army)

I started with two votes, and can sacrifice voting power to vig a player. I did so N1 by killing Qwints. I haven't used it again since due to it costing me two votes and my likelihood of hitting scum being lowered thanks to getting two lynched and one vig'd.

I have no real evidence that I know Sirdan's role, but if I read his breadcrumb right:

Sirdan is a Spiny (Bowser's Army) who Tajo dropped N1 off his cloud. (Hence his PM saying the ground got closer and closer, also with the amount of interaction that Tajo didn't really say anything to him after pointing that out.) I just noticed that breadcrumb and put the two together.

Would the other parakoopa like to go next?

[Gorrad]

Why do you feel the urge to claim for someone? AND there's no 'spike' badguy in Mario.

Vote: Riceballtail

[ortolan]

This isn't required, I was communicating with Law about my claim.

Why?

I started with two votes, and can sacrifice voting power to vig a player. I did so N1 by killing Qwints. I haven't used it again since due to it costing me two votes and my likelihood of hitting scum being lowered thanks to getting two lynched and one vig'd.

Why did you target qwints? How would it cost you two votes to use it again, you've already used it once so presumably that cost you one vote and using it again would only cost you one more. When you say "getting two lynched" you were only voting for ThAdmiral, not SK when they were lynched.

Would the other parakoopa like to go next?

You know there is a parakoopa present in the setup?

Oh, and would you mind also explaining your claiming of a non-existent role?

[ZEEnon]

This spike?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Spike_Top

This spike?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Red_Spike_Buzzy

This spike?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Spiky_Parabuzzy

This spike?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Lakilester

This spike?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Spike_(Mario_Tennis)

[ZEEnon]

The point i'm making is, the character would be specific. Time to lynch!

[ortolan]

is this going to be the third out of three lynches where someone's been lynched due to dodgy claim? (if you include SK's although he was obv-scum anyway )

[ZEEnon]

OH. This Spike! :
http://www.mariowiki.com/Spike_%28creature%29

[ZEEnon]

I started with two votes, and can sacrifice voting power to vig a player. I did so N1 by killing Qwints. I haven't used it again since due to it costing me two votes and my likelihood of hitting scum being lowered thanks to getting two lynched and one vig'd.

So you can sacrifice a vote each night? What is the limit of times you can use this ability?

[caf19]

I started with two votes, and can sacrifice voting power to vig a player. I did so N1 by killing Qwints. I haven't used it again since due to it costing me two votes and my likelihood of hitting scum being lowered thanks to getting two lynched and one vig'd.

This doesn't make sense. You only used your ability once, and yet you've lost both your votes? Surely that means you can't use it again, and not that you're choosing not to as you seem to be implying.

Also, why'd you kill qwints? He passed the item test which we still largely believed in at that point, he doesn't seem like an obvious vidge choice at all.

[ortolan]

he was also voting for Shadow Knight... (you weren't)