gut=fake? and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?Gregory wrote:I see I'm voting someone now, so
unvote
Myk and KMD, your cases against eachother look fake. at this moment, it wouldn't surprise me if you were distancing.
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never said that. Don't lay words in my mouth.mykonian wrote: gut=fake?
yeah, the reasons you had to vote eachother, was so weak you allmost couldn't take it serious.mykonian wrote: and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?
yeah, ok. first you're accusing people, and when they fight back, you're only protecting your own butt. What do you want? Stay alive or scumlynch?mykonian wrote:Propositionwe are not getting a lot further. Maybe it would make sense to get more talk about a lynch?
I'm asking this for the second time guys, WHY HAVE YOU CLOSED YOUR DOOR?Death solves all problems - no man, no problem.-
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Looker- Ya, it's starting to smell in here. Open a window or unlock the door or something.
Gregory- I agree, mostly. The KMD initial vote on Myk was/is wrong. Maybe he, knowing his partner made a scumslip and voted for him to get on the town's good side. But Myk's defense towards him is credible. He had no reason to defend himself from that vote and when he did, it was because KMD was dragging it for so long. But, I also find Myk scummy. The double vote, not so much, but his defense towards that action has definitely looked scummy. Trying to get someone to not vote him by telling him that he is misguided or however he stated it, screams of knowing the other player's alignment and trying to appease to a player with that role. Then he tries to unvote PhilyC thinking that they both might be townies just seemed weird. I think it might have been him seeing his mistake in voting PhilyC in the first place, and trying to correct it.
Overall, I would say KMD and Myk have both been scummy, but I don't see enough indication of bussing to call them on it, like you did.-
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ok, I get that, but at this moment, I haven't got a lot suspects.Battousai wrote: Overall, I would say KMD and Myk have both been scummy, but I don't see enough indication of bussing to call them on it, like you did.
I believe I'm allowed to do this
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First of all, please don't EVER respond to me in this format again.mykonian wrote:Kmd4390 wrote:Myko:
-His "promise" to Looker.explained. Every game till now I have aggressively attacked Looker, when she was towny. It is not more then normal that I change the way I play then. She has been a bit lurky in this game now, something that is a shame, because her posts were not antitown.
-Basically lurked through the beginning of the game.v/la for the most part.
-Took 12+ pages to respond to my serious vote on him.strawman. The above explanation was given short after it (a defence). When I reread and you are still hammering that on page 12, I attack you for it.
-OMGUS's me by letting the case develop as I respond to him.don't get this point. I hate the word omgus, I gave my reasoning
-Votes me over Tenchi, who he actually, you know, HAS a case against.that is much too easily followed by the wrong people, and there are things that point at Tenchi not being scum. Enough for me not to follow the case
-I know you explained it. I don't know if I buy the explanation.
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-I don't see the strawman, but VLA explains this.
-Your reasoning was there, but was weak. Point stands
-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?
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Kreriov, most of the points were there already. All I really did was look at myself in ISO and organize the points I'd already made.
I'm not saying that looking at Phily was scummy. I'm saying that looking at ONLY Phily was scummy.
Also, it's not the fact that you unvoted. It's the reasoning behind it. Same as Myko. Strong points against him, weak points for him, so youdon'tvote him? Makes no sense.
I don't follow why voting a scummy player who happens to be on VLA is stupid.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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You said the reasons looked fake. Now you say they were too weak. Now I want to hear from you why you think that. Quote my reasons and show why it is fake.Gregory wrote:
never said that. Don't lay words in my mouth.mykonian wrote: gut=fake?
yeah, the reasons you had to vote eachother, was so weak you allmost couldn't take it serious.mykonian wrote: and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?
yeah, ok. first you're accusing people, and when they fight back, you're only protecting your own butt. What do you want? Stay alive or scumlynch? [/quote]?mykonian wrote:Propositionwe are not getting a lot further. Maybe it would make sense to get more talk about a lynch?
I think 20 pages is about long enough. And I have the feeling esspecially around Kreviov discussion is not that constructional anymore. It simply doesn't help.
I don't get what you are accusing me of. Most people would have an opinion of me, I think except you and mafiaman, people would have an opinion on anybody.
So exactly you would be save from a lynch, not me. Because people are attacking me, and I want the day to be ended soon. So sorry, but I think you didn't have a clue what I was saying.-
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I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is towny the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.Kmd4390 wrote:-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?
and sorry for the format. Just that I don't know how to clearly answer multiple questions.-
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Hey all, I was having some sign in problems, had to bother Mith about the issue via Haylen, needless to say the problems fixed.
I'll be re-reading the game and hopefully posting soon.kortskorts (14:18:48): haylen wants more porno-related questions
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jdodge1019 (14:20:06): then why do you keep using the blowjob emoticon
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Battousai wants to move to room 4
So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.mykonian wrote:I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is townie the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.-
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Sorry, two ongoing games have become major headaches, I'll be taking my time re-reading since I'm pretty headfucked at the moment.kortskorts (14:18:48): haylen wants more porno-related questions
SimplyAwesome64 (14:19:11): :O no it dont!
jdodge1019 (14:20:06): then why do you keep using the blowjob emoticon
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Taking risks is indeed a townie thing to do but starting bad wagons and making wild accusations is not. He did start the game off but I doubt most people intend to start the game with a wagon on them.guy with name that sounds like a drug wrote:
I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is towny the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.other guy wrote:-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?
and sorry for the format. Just that I don't know how to clearly answer multiple questions.
Despite all this I do think he was just trying to start the game but went about it wrong. I agree that there is a fair chance his wagon is scum driven but too many townies are always eager for quick lynch.
Id say you cant draw to many conclusions from his wagon unless some people voted without any reasoning which i have seen scum do a fair amount of.Why don't they pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting anybody from learning anything? If it works as well as prohibition did, in five years Americans would be the smartest race of people on Earth.├óÔé¼-
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but I hope you get the point where I think I get that feeling from. Tenchis mistakes were the reason he was attacked, but mistakes are going to be made if you try to create something out of nothing, something Tenchi tried.Battousai wrote:So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.-
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1) Kmd4390
2) mykonian (1) - PhilyEc
3) Bitchibee
4) Ztife (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi (2) - Battousai, Kmd4390
10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (1) - Tenchi
12) Gregory (1) - Mafiamann
Not voting (6) - Mykonian, Bitchibee, Ztife, Iecerint, Kreriov, Gregory
With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.
Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???
Room 3: Library - Bitchibee
Room 4: Hospital Room - Gregory, Looker, Battousai
Room 5: ???
Room 6: Dark Room
Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov
Room 10: Empty Room - Iecerint
Room 11: ???
Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room - Ztife
Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???
Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.Corridor - Tenchi, Mafiamann
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Most of the cases so far seem to failed to stick onto other players minds, the 6 non-voters prove no ones really sure whos who at the moment, I think some people are holding back on their suspicions at the moment due to the amount of content provided compared to lack of votes. I'd like to see suspect lists from people not voting so I know where players stand in this game.mykonian wrote:
but I hope you get the point where I think I get that feeling from. Tenchis mistakes were the reason he was attacked, but mistakes are going to be made if you try to create something out of nothing, something Tenchi tried.Battousai wrote:So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.kortskorts (14:18:48): haylen wants more porno-related questions
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@Mykonian - Ok.
My suspects are a as follows with a brief reason why.
Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - LurkingKreriov
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Ok, Kreviov went up my list very, very fast. He picks the three suspects as top three that are not really scummy, but are targets (still sorry phily, I shouldn't have done it).
Like the point about Phily: being too defensive about mistakes... Nobody likes to make them, and it makes clear that Phily is attacked for mistakes: not for scumslips (mistakes made by scum). Any town should see the difference.Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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