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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:04 am

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Gregory wrote:I see I'm voting someone now, so

unvote


Myk and KMD, your cases against eachother look fake. at this moment, it wouldn't surprise me if you were distancing.
gut=fake? and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?


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we are not getting a lot further. Maybe it would make sense to get more talk about a lynch?
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:30 am

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mykonian wrote: gut=fake?
never said that. Don't lay words in my mouth.
mykonian wrote: and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?
yeah, the reasons you had to vote eachother, was so weak you allmost couldn't take it serious.
mykonian wrote:
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we are not getting a lot further. Maybe it would make sense to get more talk about a lynch?
yeah, ok. first you're accusing people, and when they fight back, you're only protecting your own butt. What do you want? Stay alive or scumlynch?

I'm asking this for the second time guys, WHY HAVE YOU CLOSED YOUR DOOR?
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:20 pm

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Looker- Ya, it's starting to smell in here. Open a window or unlock the door or something.

Gregory- I agree, mostly. The KMD initial vote on Myk was/is wrong. Maybe he, knowing his partner made a scumslip and voted for him to get on the town's good side. But Myk's defense towards him is credible. He had no reason to defend himself from that vote and when he did, it was because KMD was dragging it for so long. But, I also find Myk scummy. The double vote, not so much, but his defense towards that action has definitely looked scummy. Trying to get someone to not vote him by telling him that he is misguided or however he stated it, screams of knowing the other player's alignment and trying to appease to a player with that role. Then he tries to unvote PhilyC thinking that they both might be townies just seemed weird. I think it might have been him seeing his mistake in voting PhilyC in the first place, and trying to correct it.

Overall, I would say KMD and Myk have both been scummy, but I don't see enough indication of bussing to call them on it, like you did.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:10 am

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Battousai wrote: Overall, I would say KMD and Myk have both been scummy, but I don't see enough indication of bussing to call them on it, like you did.
ok, I get that, but at this moment, I haven't got a lot suspects.

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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:14 am

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A few players were left with still an active key. And it was then that Gregory, formerly known as PaperPenguin (a very sad story...), decided to use his key. Not fully awakened yet from his transformation, he stumbled forwards. As it didn''t go really well, he gave up and just turned to the closest door nearby. Finally, he got the door open, and saw that he had entered the Hospital Room.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:23 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:Myko:
-His "promise" to Looker.
explained. Every game till now I have aggressively attacked Looker, when she was towny. It is not more then normal that I change the way I play then. She has been a bit lurky in this game now, something that is a shame, because her posts were not antitown.

-Basically lurked through the beginning of the game.
v/la for the most part.

-Took 12+ pages to respond to my serious vote on him.
strawman. The above explanation was given short after it (a defence). When I reread and you are still hammering that on page 12, I attack you for it.

-OMGUS's me by letting the case develop as I respond to him.
don't get this point. I hate the word omgus, I gave my reasoning

-Votes me over Tenchi, who he actually, you know, HAS a case against.
that is much too easily followed by the wrong people, and there are things that point at Tenchi not being scum. Enough for me not to follow the case
First of all, please don't EVER respond to me in this format again.

-I know you explained it. I don't know if I buy the explanation.
-Noted
-I don't see the strawman, but VLA explains this.
-Your reasoning was there, but was weak. Point stands
-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?

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Kreriov, most of the points were there already. All I really did was look at myself in ISO and organize the points I'd already made.

I'm not saying that looking at Phily was scummy. I'm saying that looking at ONLY Phily was scummy.

Also, it's not the fact that you unvoted. It's the reasoning behind it. Same as Myko. Strong points against him, weak points for him, so you
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vote him? Makes no sense.

I don't follow why voting a scummy player who happens to be on VLA is stupid.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:13 am

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Gregory wrote:
mykonian wrote: gut=fake?
never said that. Don't lay words in my mouth.
mykonian wrote: and the fact that he voted for pregame talk, for 12 pages? fake?
yeah, the reasons you had to vote eachother, was so weak you allmost couldn't take it serious.
You said the reasons looked fake. Now you say they were too weak. Now I want to hear from you why you think that. Quote my reasons and show why it is fake.
mykonian wrote:
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we are not getting a lot further. Maybe it would make sense to get more talk about a lynch?
yeah, ok. first you're accusing people, and when they fight back, you're only protecting your own butt. What do you want? Stay alive or scumlynch? [/quote]?

I think 20 pages is about long enough. And I have the feeling esspecially around Kreviov discussion is not that constructional anymore. It simply doesn't help.

I don't get what you are accusing me of. Most people would have an opinion of me, I think except you and mafiaman, people would have an opinion on anybody.

So exactly you would be save from a lynch, not me. Because people are attacking me, and I want the day to be ended soon. So sorry, but I think you didn't have a clue what I was saying.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?
I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is towny the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.

and sorry for the format. Just that I don't know how to clearly answer multiple questions.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:26 am

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Hey all, I was having some sign in problems, had to bother Mith about the issue via Haylen, needless to say the problems fixed.

I'll be re-reading the game and hopefully posting soon.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:39 am

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mykonian wrote:I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is townie the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.
So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:02 am

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Sorry, two ongoing games have become major headaches, I'll be taking my time re-reading since I'm pretty headfucked at the moment.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:48 am

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guy with name that sounds like a drug wrote:
other guy wrote:-what are the points in favor of Tenchi being town? Why are they stronger than your case on Tenchi or anyone else's?
I think that I explained before that Tenchi took risks. That is towny the way I see the game. But his "aggressive" starting, weak cases, wrong points, etc, also looks scummy: but could one do better? It did start the game, and he had little to work with. It seems like scum had an easy target with the first person that acted. It makes that I have little confidence in that wagon.

and sorry for the format. Just that I don't know how to clearly answer multiple questions.
Taking risks is indeed a townie thing to do but starting bad wagons and making wild accusations is not. He did start the game off but I doubt most people intend to start the game with a wagon on them.

Despite all this I do think he was just trying to start the game but went about it wrong. I agree that there is a fair chance his wagon is scum driven but too many townies are always eager for quick lynch.

Id say you cant draw to many conclusions from his wagon unless some people voted without any reasoning which i have seen scum do a fair amount of.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:57 am

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I want to be addressed as O Magnificent One by Mafiamann.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:07 pm

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Myk's Post 497 - Lurky? Really? My apologies.

Battousai's Post 502 -
Looker opens door 12, enters corridor, and enters Room 4


Zazie's Post 504 - What can be deduced by the presence of a hospital room? Who has read this manga?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:11 pm

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[quote="OMO]I want to be addressed as O Magnificent One by Mafiamann.[/quote]

OMO it is
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:43 pm

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Battousai moves to room 4
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:18 pm

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Back tomorrow.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:24 pm

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Battousai wrote:So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.
but I hope you get the point where I think I get that feeling from. Tenchis mistakes were the reason he was attacked, but mistakes are going to be made if you try to create something out of nothing, something Tenchi tried.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:20 am

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Ztife is getting prodded. This would be his third prod. Next time, he won''t be prodded. Instead, he will be replaced
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:56 am

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Looker wrote:Myk's Post 497 - Lurky? Really? My apologies.
after last game, I expect more from you ;)
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:03 am

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1) Kmd4390
2) mykonian (1) - PhilyEc
3) Bitchibee
4) Ztife (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov

9) Tenchi (2) - Battousai, Kmd4390

10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (1) - Tenchi
12) Gregory (1) - Mafiamann

Not voting (6) - Mykonian, Bitchibee, Ztife, Iecerint, Kreriov, Gregory

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.



Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390
Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library - Bitchibee
Room 4: Hospital Room - Gregory, Looker, Battousai
Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room
Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov
Room 10: Empty Room - Iecerint
Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room - Ztife
Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.
Corridor - Tenchi, Mafiamann

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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:21 am

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mykonian wrote:
Battousai wrote:So far the only risk you have stated is that he attacked me with bad reasoning. Also, Tenchi wagon is the second wagon as I was technically the first person to act and he tried to form a wagon on me.
but I hope you get the point where I think I get that feeling from. Tenchis mistakes were the reason he was attacked, but mistakes are going to be made if you try to create something out of nothing, something Tenchi tried.
Most of the cases so far seem to failed to stick onto other players minds, the 6 non-voters prove no ones really sure whos who at the moment, I think some people are holding back on their suspicions at the moment due to the amount of content provided compared to lack of votes. I'd like to see suspect lists from people not voting so I know where players stand in this game.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:35 am

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@Mykonian - Ok.

My suspects are a as follows with a brief reason why.

Tenchi - Jumping wagons for little or no reason.
PhilyEc - Being way to defensive about mistakes
Mykonian - This whole weird KMD back and forth thing
Kmd - Pushing a bad case
Ztife - Lurking
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:53 am

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Ok, Kreviov went up my list very, very fast. He picks the three suspects as top three that are not really scummy, but are targets (still sorry phily, I shouldn't have done it).

Like the point about Phily: being too defensive about mistakes... Nobody likes to make them, and it makes clear that Phily is attacked for mistakes: not for scumslips (mistakes made by scum). Any town should see the difference.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:34 am

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VLA 3 days


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