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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:23 am

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Mufasa wrote:
populartajo wrote:ConsM and Mufasa, please provide an small opinion next to each of these players including probable alignment.

You can use this list as a help.

1) zwetschenwasser
2) Sir Tornado - appeared town at first but with his gambit on dont boost me im town, scum
3) OhGodMyLife - the Whole boost because of meta was odd eventhough I was on that. Town
4) Battle Mage (replacing BloodCovenent) Still hasnt received role/bloodcovenant lurked appeared no read
5) Empking Scum Lurker
6) Papa Zito Town
7) MissTake Town
8) Kmd4390 Town
9) millar13 Town
10) Mufasa Town
11) semioldguy Scum dont let the ConstM vote throw you off
12) cateraction Scum buddy with semioldguy

13) Wiirdo Scum Three in a row.. Weirdos actions early game were enough.
14) Kise Town
15) ConsonantM Scum I have stated my reasons
16) Porochaz Town
17) populartajo Town
18) Sajin Town

Thx-.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:33 am

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millar13 wrote:considering Mufasa was town you can normally count on good calls after-death
No. This is bad logic.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:35 am

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When you know someone was town, and it is confirmed by death you can normally see that their judgments are going to be given some clarity. The fact that you almost seem to be backing-up/coaching Cateraction but he ignores you, is quite a classic move.

You were bussing ConsM/Mastin, whilst Cateraction jumped off the scum-bus and jumped on the wagon.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:44 am

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I feel that boosts are similar to votes in that scum can influence them therefore can the people below give reasons as to why there voting who there voting.

Sajin - Kise, Battle Mage, Porochaz
Kmd - Battle Mage, Sajin, MissTake
cateraction - Battle Mage, Sajin, Kmd
OGML - semioldguy, kmd, MissTake
Kise - Battle Mage, Sajin
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:47 am

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Kise wrote:I was told (on Day 1) that we should boost no matter what, and no matter who. I think a better idea would be for us to take turns boosting everyone, like, a game of hot potato.

Does anyone (from BM1) know the direct effects of boosting a player 2 days in a row?
i DON'T like the idea of random boosting at all.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:47 am

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vote Millar
for making absolutely ridiculous statements, see 775. If Mufasa is town then he has about as much idea as the rest of us.
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:48 am

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He always makes absolutely ridiculous statements.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:49 am

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BM came in not afraid to give strong "OMG WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING" opinions. I liked that.

Sajin couldn't be more protown if he tried.

MissTake, I read as town (for once).
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:53 am

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Boost: KMD, Poro & BM
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:54 am

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millar13 wrote:The fact that you almost seem to be backing-up/coaching Cateraction but he ignores you, is quite a classic move.

You were bussing ConsM/Mastin, whilst Cateraction jumped off the scum-bus and jumped on the wagon.
Can you point out examples of these?
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:56 am

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But he self admittedly came in doing that without reading his role PM so it is a null tell.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:02 am

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Unboost BM
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:07 am

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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:16 am

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Sajin - Kise, Battle Mage, Porochaz
Kmd - Battle Mage, Sajin, MissTake

cateraction - Battle Mage, Sajin, Kmd
OGML - semioldguy, kmd, MissTake
Empking - Kmd, Porochaz, Battle Mage
Kise - Battle Mage, Sajin
Sir Tornado - Porochaz, Sajin
millar13 - Kmd Zwet
populartajo - millar13

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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:19 am

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@poro - Town reads, simple as that.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:21 am

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Votecount

cateraction (1) -- millar13
Mastin (3) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife, Sir Tornado
millar13 (3) -- cateraction, semioldguy, Porochaz

Not voting: populartajo, Mastin, Empking, Wiirdo, MissTake, zwetschenwasser, Battle Mage, Kise, Sajin.
16 alive, 9 to lynch.

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Battle Mage (4) -- Sajin, cateraction, Kise, Empking
Porochaz (3) -- Sajin, Sir Tornado, Empking
Sajin (5) -- Kmd4390, cateraction, Sir Tornado, Kise, semioldguy
MissTake (2) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife
Kmd4390 (4) -- cateraction, OhGodMyLife, Empking, millar13
populartajo (1) -- millar13
semioldguy (1) -- OhGodMyLife
zwetschenwasser (1) -- millar13
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:36 am

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Spotted something big, but will make a post about it tomorrow
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:42 am

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Cateraction’s explanation makes no sense as he says he is not voting for Mufasa because it has been decided that the boosts should be resolved first, which is a good reason, but his vote is on another player. If that was your reason for not voting Mufasa, then why hadn’t you already unvoted to reflect not voting until all boosts resolved?
I voted Mastin/Conso back on page 4, with this post
So annoying, not helpful.

Vote: ConsonantM
Serious in the sense that I really hate his play, but not serious in the sense that I thought he was scum or not. That vote just sat there because I really wanted to vote Mufasa, but he was in the L-3 neighborhood, and as stated, we were trying to resolve the boosts before a lynch. As soon as the boosts were resolved, I put my vote where my mouth was.
Millar wrote:Just picked up on that, and considering Mufasa was town you can normally count on good calls after-death
You can just say that he in genuine, not that he had any better idea of what was going on. If I remember correctly, he never even offered any explanation for that part of the list.
You were bussing ConsM/Mastin, whilst Cateraction jumped off the scum-bus and jumped on the wagon.
Didn't you accuse me yesterday of being scummy for not voting the person I was attacking? Which is it? Was I scummy for not voting Mufasa or voting him?
I feel that boosts are similar to votes in that scum can influence them therefore can the people below give reasons as to why there voting who there voting.
Sajin and KMD have both made excellent contributions to the game and seem to be genuinely scumhunting. You bring up a good point on BM, I forgot he had said that that post was before reading his role. I will withold that third boost.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:59 am

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I don't have a problem so much with the moving of your vote or when you did it. But the reason you gave for not doing it sooner would have seemed to me like you should have removed your initial vote earlier as there was also risk of ConsonantM being lynched prior to resolving all the boosts. If you were withholding changing your vote for fear of getting to lynch to soon it would make sense to me that under that same logic you would have removed your vote on ConsonantM who was also close to lynch.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:04 am

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millar13 wrote:Spotted something big, but will make a post about it tomorrow
Then dont mention it until tomorrow. Your not a TV program. Dont leave cliffhangers.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:25 am

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I explained my boosts in brief when I posted them. I can explain in more detail if you want.

My boosts are because of post content. Of those not already boosted, not considered scummy by me, not waranted a boost because of chaotic behavior or lurking there are only about 4-5 candidates for me. Kise made several good posts and was inquisitive to others and game mechanics before making a fail claim yesterday. A town enough read to boost imo. Porochaz and BM because of questions/ post content yesterday were well thought out in my opinion. Misstake would be my next canidate likely.

It is my opinion that we should not double boost someone today as that either puts a huge target on someone or powers up scum either of which is bad. More functional PRs is good therefore we should boost 3 different people then before. If someone had a verified role I would have no problems double boosting that person.

And now, Prorochaz I would like you to boost 3 people with reasons.

And just so it can actually go on the vote books
vote: OGML
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@OGML- No comment on me not voting anybody and fosing you? Also I would like your reasoning on why you were boosting Sirtornado explained NOW. "Town read" is not good enough for me.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:30 pm

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I dont want to boost anyone yet. Simply because I havent decided. I am not going to boost until I have decided all 3 and right now I want to hear from people especially the lurkers and BM. Although I will say I am choosing between 5 people.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:45 pm

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Holy fuck - Long post from Zwet. I think I fell asleep and woke up in an alternative reality :-P; anyway...
semioldguy wrote:@ Sir Tornado and Miss Take:
Why do you find Kise to be likely town? I find him suspicious for his playing dumb when I know he is a better player and his poor handling of his role/claim.
All I can really say in my sleepy stupor is that I'm going with gut with Kise. I haven't seen anything from him that was particularly damning besides making a stupid move. Everyone makes stupid mistakes every once in a while, regardless of their alignment. Once again, I don't find his soft claim as a scumtell. I've already gone through the 'what ifs' and nothing other than the fact that it was a stupid, flustered townie mistake fit (in my opinion). If you need more of a reason I'll make a post about it later. (this is just a check in post)
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millar13 wrote:considering Mufasa was town you can normally count on good calls after-death
No. This is bad logic.
Completely agree. Just because a townie was lynched doesn't mean that they're immediately a scum detector. If you're town, you'd remember that we have no idea who the scumbos are. Why should his word somehow mean more now that he's dead?
kmd wrote: MissTake, I read as town (for once).
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Also, I'm completely aware that there are a few things in this post that have already been said before; reiteration is fun!

But... I'm going to lay my boosts down on KMD and Porochaz at the moment.
Boost: KMD
Boost: Porochaz


I've been getting really strong townie reads from the both of them. I don't think I've seen a single scummy thing from either of them.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:13 pm

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Porochaz wrote:
millar13 wrote:Spotted something big, but will make a post about it tomorrow
Then dont mention it until tomorrow. Your not a TV program. Dont leave cliffhangers.
^This. If you had time to say you were going to mention something, how do you not have time to mention it?
MissTake wrote:Holy fuck - Long post from Zwet. I think I fell asleep and woke up in an alternative reality :-P; anyway...
When was this? I think his longest post said he was gonna be V/LA.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:18 pm

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MissTake wrote:Holy fuck - Long post from Zwet. I think I fell asleep and woke up in an alternative reality :-P; anyway...
When was this? I think his longest post said he was gonna be V/LA.[/quote]

Mother fuck me, I'm tired.
*facepalm* I ended up confuzzletating Cateraction and Zwet.

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