Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:19 am

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GIEFF (3): camn, SensFan, Battle Mage
Mastin (2): Zachrulez, GIEFF
Battle Mage (2): Mastin, VP Baltar
Cephrir (2): Debonair Danny DiPietro, jammer
jammer (1): Kairyuu


Not Voting: Cephrir, broomhead, SpyreX, alexhans, Benmage

8 to lynch

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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:30 am

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@alexhans,
I'm thinking the wall-post war gets more personal then actual bringin points forward.
Is BM your main suspect?

@SF, Second question was becouse GIEFF, Alex and me have some posts directed at each other. And I wondered what you tried to point at with "a scum". Making me think you saw some connection of some kind. You seemed to show you "knew" something. I'm still wondering what...

@VP, DDD, Cephrir What do you think about Alex defending Mastin?

@zach, I gues you post what you exactly think about BM, but if you didn't, a reminder here.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:33 am

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Kmd4390 replaces broomhead.

(Vi wasn't currently available. I did ask her first. I didn't know about RedCoyote, but thanks for mentioning him -- I'll consider him in the future if I need another replacement.)

As for SpyreX, the V/LA was known before the game started, and he has been posting some even while away. His return date gives him around 2 and a half weeks before deadline of being fully here, which should be fine. If it proves to be a problem, I'm not averse to extending a bit to compensate.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:56 am

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jammer wrote:@VP, DDD, Cephrir What do you think about Alex defending Mastin?
I think his "NuTsOcApS", as benmage put it, was overboard and weird, boardering on being scummy. Other than that, I get the vibe that they sort of feed off each other since they have similar posting styles and perhaps he is letting his personal feelings toward Mastin paint his perception of his alignment. It is something that is worth keeping in mind, but I don't think it is a lynch worthy offense.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:23 am

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camn wrote: town vs. town on them.
Yeahhhh maybe.
Battle Mage wrote: The thing is, if you dont think Alex's panicked defence of Mastin was scummy, then i wouldnt expect you to agree with the case on him, because that is pretty much the cornerstone of it.
Agree.
SensFan wrote:Alex, jammer, GIEFF.

There's a Scum in that group.
Useless.
Zachrulez wrote:Battle Mage, why did you unvote Alex?

I'm going crazy trying to read your text walls of reasoning for voting him in he first place.
They’re littered with nothingness.
alexhans wrote:#189: So Kai? Not one suspicion?
Has Kai passed post 93?
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Benmage wrote:Acting the same way one does when town doesn’t clear them.
??? explain...
Seriously…I hate spelling out the obvious. If you’re known for acting a certain way when being town, isn’t it logical that when you are finally scum to act the way you’re known for acting when town…zzzz
alexhans wrote:
motives for a mastin vote from Benmage:

a) Mastin may be scum and may be acting ilogically
b) He's going after Battle Mage.
c) ...
d) there's not even a c) man... do you expect a d)?
c) I don’t like his shoes
d) watermelon
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alexhans wrote:BM acted "certain" that I was scum in all of his posts...
No, that might be an overall theme of his posts but there are certain aspects as to why he thinks you could be scum. I merely picked up and interpreted one I found intriguing.
jammer wrote:@alexhans,
I'm thinking the wall-post war gets more personal then actual bringin points forward.
Is BM your main suspect?
Ding ding ding, they’re a total distraction to this game. Is anyone really reading every line/comment.
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jammer wrote:@VP, DDD, Cephrir What do you think about Alex defending Mastin?
I think his "NuTsOcApS", as benmage put it, was overboard and weird, boardering on being scummy.
My thoughts exactly.

Well caught up and to surmise I still find Mastin most scummy. His new mia-ness is even more peculiar.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:40 am

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Yes, I am in fact still in Ireland.:P

This hotel has free internet so I can at least post some. Dont expect MEGGAAAAPOST until I get back though.

I figured I'd sit down and catch up on this game and almost immediately my eyes bled out. Good lord.

Ready for a few SHOCKERS!

1.) Pretty sure BM is town. This shouldn't be a surprise. The pro/con scum motivation for pulling the "great trap" ESPECIALLY in a mountainous setup makes me go woah.

2.) Mastin felt town early, but the fact I haven't seen much Mastin posting since the walls of doom starts to give me the twitch again.

3.) What worries me on a first real read isn't the players "on spotlight" but the players I dont pick out aside from some sniping... like Zach.

You'll get more later. I am keeping up and I WILL give some fat loots when I get back.

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:10 am

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mastin's absence is not scummy.

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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:20 am

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Spyrex wrote:2.) Mastin felt town early, but the fact I haven't seen much Mastin posting since the walls of doom starts to give me the twitch again.
I have recently discovered that Mastin's scum meta is to fall behind and lurk. I might not be opposed to his lynch given I have seen this prove accurate twice.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:21 am

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BM wrote:mastin's absence is not scummy.
what makes you so sure of that?
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:31 am

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I support ANY lurkerlynch.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:53 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
Spyrex wrote:2.) Mastin felt town early, but the fact I haven't seen much Mastin posting since the walls of doom starts to give me the twitch again.
I have recently discovered that Mastin's scum meta is to fall behind and lurk. I might not be opposed to his lynch given I have seen this prove accurate twice.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:02 pm

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Actually there are three. One is ongoing, but I'm sure you could find it if you looked for it.

The other two are Lynch all Lurkers and Polygamist Mafia. Keep in mind he has 20 posts on the site yesterday alone as well.

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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:31 pm

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VP Baltar wrote:Keep in mind he has 20 posts on the site yesterday alone as well.

Unvote, Vote: Mastin
Does Mastin have an alt you know of? I only see 8 posts on the site yesterday, although a couple of them had a lot of content.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:35 pm

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I don't know where you were looking at, but I was checking here. I count far more than 8 posts on July 13.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:41 pm

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I just realized that my Monday and your Monday are different things... stupid spherical Earth.

But all that REALLY matters is how many times he's posted since returning from V/LA, and you are right - it is about 20.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:41 pm

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I only see 6......
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:42 pm

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camn wrote:I only see 6......
How's the weather in Hawaii?
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:42 pm

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Doh!

This site should use GMT.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:43 pm

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Regardless, point is he's actively lurking here.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:45 pm

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Not actively lurking - just lurking.

Although I think his previous behavior (self-aggrandizement instead of scumhunting) is a lot scummier than his inactivity the last two days.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:46 pm

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I note both.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:38 pm

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Ah yeah, sorry. Timezone differences didn't occur to me. Oh well, check out the links I provided and you can see that as scum he isn't a very good player. He falls behind and promises to catch up but really just continues to lurk.

I have also seen his "self-aggrandizment", as you put it, when he was scum...though I'm not sure how often he does that as town as well, so it could be null.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:03 pm

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Another interesting thing I found in Mastin's game as scum - he suggested analyzing the night kills.

Mastin, is night-kill speculation something you do a lot as town, too?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:24 pm

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GIEFF wrote:Another interesting thing I found in Mastin's game as scum - he suggested analyzing the night kills
I noticed that as well, if nothing else it establishes that NK speculation is something scum-Mastin is willing to use to push his agenda. Couple that with VPB's meta-find and I'm ready to push Mastin above Cephrir on my scum list.

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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:29 pm

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Hi. Who is scum?
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