Newbie 813 - Over!

[Santos]

I thought about fingering him, but then decided to just ask a simple question.

From his vote towards me I interpreted the following:

1) I don't believe him to still be random even though he says he is.
2) His vote on me feels like an OMGUS, even though its obviously not.
3) His risk to draw this much attention to himself is either a brave townie, or a newb scum.
a) Scums don't usually want to draw attention to themselves by voting around the playing field
b) Townies switching votes a lot have nothing to lose; and therefor are 'brave'
c) scum or town: he is playing around.

unvote; vote: Santos...

So what is the point of the '...' ? Do you have something more to say at a later time?

Pancho, how are you still random with now 3 votes?

[BigBear]

I thought about fingering him, but then decided to just ask a simple question.

From his vote towards me I interpreted the following:

1) I don't believe him to still be random even though he says he is.

yes

2) His vote on me feels like an OMGUS, even though its obviously not.

yes, i believe it is.

3) His risk to draw this much attention to himself is either a brave townie, or a newb scum.

Probably town. Too much jumping around. I agree with A.

a) Scums don't usually want to draw attention to themselves by voting around the playing field

Yes and no.

b) Townies switching votes a lot have nothing to lose; and therefor are 'brave'
c) scum or town: he is playing around.

unvote; vote: Santos...

So what is the point of the '...' ? Do you have something more to say at a later time?

Pancho, how are you still random with now 3 votes?

Sorry, i had to write in orange I also agree with B and C, but those are usually common knowledge.

Unvote

Hmmm... It seems like a

Vote: BigBear

is in order. How dare you have a beautiful day when it is so stinking hot where I live.

Seems scummy to me...

Um... So... ?

Unvote; Vote: Rolandgarros for pointing out the obvious...

That is even

more scummy than having nice weather

...

So it seems BigBear's vote was random. Now the vote on Rolandgarros seems more deliberate and not random. Are you done with random voting, Pancho?

Do you mean the vote on me?

Lol... wow guys... wow...

And to answer your question Santos:http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/posting. ... &p=1759610

unvote; vote: Santos

...

The random voting is only over when people want it to be over... I personally love this stage of the game and would hate to see it end so soon.

You can't be serious, can you? Do you really think any voting done so far has been "deliberate"? Total weaksauce.

So does that vote have a reason? Do you think we're still in the RVS? Do I think your voting was deliberate, yes... you did type them didn't you? you chose for those players to be voted. Why do you want the RVS to keep going? I really do not enjoy the RVS. I'd rather get the game moving personally. But whatever.
So does this vote have a reason?

[TDC]

Vote Count

Santos (2): Shrinehme, Pancho
WeepingWind (1): BigBear
DeeJayCee (1): aQuafr3sh
aQuafr3sh (1): SunBunD33
SunBunD33 (1): WeepingWind

Not Voting (3): DeeJayCee, rolandgarros, Santos

[Santos]

I'm not sure what's up.

[Pancho]

Pancho, how are you still random with now 3 votes?

The fact that you guys are making me spell out my random voting shenanigans is astounding.

Vote one - based on weather...

Vote two - based on someone pointing out the obvious about the date (yes I know what the significance of the date is, I knew what it was when I placed the vote too, that is a part of why I voted, it is the first thing in the first post, people need to read), which

is

more scummy than having nice weather...

Vote three - based on santos being both wrong and ridiculous. If you honestly thought that the second vote was serious or based on some perceived scumminess I was picking up from roland then you need help my friend.

Vote four - coming soon... in fact

Unvote; Vote Shrinehme

because why the heck not.

Not a single one of these votes has been because I thought the person in question deserved a vote, like most random voting it is done with an eye toward forcing conversations (which I suppose I succeeded in doing, just really not the conversations I would expect).

I'm quite surprised by Pancho's jumpiness though... Not to mention that Santos didn't even place a vote on Pancho, nor an official FOS.

Question, Pancho are you still random voting with your vote on Santos?

I thought about fingering him, but then decided to just ask a simple question.

Really? You guys really would consider fingering someone, not jokingly or randomly, but for real, over a post made within the first 15 posts of the game... lol... I'm just not able to understand the logic in that. If you guys want the random voting to end quickly that is fine I suppose, but I'm just not used to it ending this early in the game.

So does that vote have a reason? Do you think we're still in the RVS? Do I think your voting was deliberate, yes... you did type them didn't you? you chose for those players to be voted. Why do you want the RVS to keep going? I really do not enjoy the RVS. I'd rather get the game moving personally. But whatever.
So does this vote have a reason?

Now you are just getting into semantics... All votes have a reason, obviously. Even the most random of votes is there for a reason. Yes I typed the names and hit enter, so they were "deliberate" as far as that goes. Were they because I felt they were scummy? Were they because I'm trying to throw the town off the trail of the scum? I would have hoped the answer to both those questions was obvious (no, not in the least), but by virtue of the fact that we are discussing it further it seems they weren't.

Why do I want to keep the RVS going? You learn quite a bit about someone during this phase (I think I've picked up a few gems already). I've always felt that the game

does

move along during this phase, quite a bit actually. But it seems that I am in the minority on that at the moment, so I'll relent my desire to keep the random voting up (I'll drop my current vote in a later post, so it can have

some

meaning, I'll let you decide what that meaning is... {I really wish there was a shifty eyed emoticon... lol})

woo, that was a lot wordier that I expected that post to be...

[Shrinehme]

I don't fully agree with his saying that the RVS is worth dawdling through. Though, whether he intended for it or not [and judging from his above post, it was], Pancho's vote-switching

did

incite discussion.
It seemed a bit obvious to me that he was still random voting.

[DeeJayCee]

Heyo soz for not voting in a while I just got FABLE 2 For 360 and I was playing it it's fun!

Anyway, VOTE: aQuafResh,
You have misunderstood what my user is for,DeeJayCee is in fact my INITIALS!DJC BRO!

[aQuafr3sh]

After many a sleepless night I have made a decision:

Unvote; Vote: BigBear

He is a bear, and he is big. . . Sounds scummy to me.

[Santos]

But he is not a manbearpig and personally, I'm quite proud of having a big bear on my state flag. So I don't 'hear' how a big bear is scummy.

[aQuafr3sh]

But he is not a manbearpig and personally, I'm quite proud of having a big bear on my state flag. So I don't 'hear' how a big bear is scummy.

This is usually the words of people that have not been mauled by big bears yet.

[Santos]

In most cases, the people getting mauled shouldn't have bothered the bear. Its not the bear's fault. Its his nature. So yeah, having not been mauled by a bear I still don't see why they are scummy.

Do you agree with Pancho, aquafresh?

[BigBear]

After many a sleepless night I have made a decision:

Unvote; Vote: BigBear

He is a bear, and he is big. . . Sounds scummy to me.

Have you read any of the thread yet? (i'm not intending this to be OMGUS or anything.) I for one, would say that we are out of the RVS. I want to know what you think of Pancho jumping all over the place.

We're two pages in, we need more content! I expect WoT's already!!!

[Santos]

Mod, I believe DeeJayCee needs some coaching. Can we also get a vote count please?

[TDC]

Vote Count

Santos (1): Shrinehme
WeepingWind (1): BigBear
aQuafr3sh (1): SunBunD33
SunBunD33 (1): WeepingWind
Shrinehme (1): Pancho
BigBear (1): aQuafr3sh

Not Voting (3): DeeJayCee, rolandgarros, Santos

DeeJayCee: Make sure your votes are bolded or they won't count. If you're unsure how to bold things or have any other questions, feel free to ask me by PM. That goes for everyone of course.

[Shrinehme]

*tumbleweed rolls by*
I'd like to hear more opinions about Pancho's "jumpiness" earlier, or about the responses to it.
Rolandgarros, WeepingWind, SunBunD33...?

[DeeJayCee]

Okay sorry guys this is mai first game here kk...

vote:aQuafr3sh

[rolandgarros]

*tumbleweed rolls by*
I'd like to hear more opinions about Pancho's "jumpiness" earlier, or about the responses to it.
Rolandgarros, WeepingWind, SunBunD33...?

I'm personally waiting for somebody to answer BigBear's question, which is quite legitimate I would say.

[Santos]

I think the question was directed at Aquafresh.

[BigBear]

I think the question was directed at Aquafresh.

Correct, but my implications could be applied to anyone in this game (that hasn't already answered, Rolando already did, post 24, well, remotely answered. Some further insight wouldn't hurt.)


aQuafr3sh
SunBunD33
WeepingWing

I would like these three players to answer my question on post 36, and would LOVE to get more content from all of them.

Thanks

[Santos]

i c wut u did ther

[WeepingWind]

I want to know what you think of Pancho jumping all over the place.

It really just shows that he isn't suspicious of anyone, or is suspicious of everyone, and doesn't know where to place his vote. There's nothing wrong with this, until it comes down to the actual lynch. A vocal player's indecision might affect the other players, and they too will become confused and mislynch. It could be intentional or unintentional, a townie or mafia trait, though it seems the scum prefer to stay in the shadows instead of attracting attention by any unusual acts.

There is no way that I can see for the swinging around of votes to indicate a role, though others may have different opinions.

[rolandgarros]

I want to know what you think of Pancho jumping all over the place.

It really just shows that he isn't suspicious of anyone, or is suspicious of everyone, and doesn't know where to place his vote. There's nothing wrong with this, until it comes down to the actual lynch. A vocal player's indecision might affect the other players, and they too will become confused and mislynch. It could be intentional or unintentional, a townie or mafia trait, though it seems the scum prefer to stay in the shadows instead of attracting attention by any unusual acts.

There is no way that I can see for the swinging around of votes to indicate a role, though others may have different opinions.

That's certainly a good point, and it may be worth giving Pancho the benefit of the doubt. After all, if he was any good at being scum, he would have attracted too much attention to himself already, which I don't think is much beneficial to any scum. This is assuming, of course, that Pancho knows what he's doing, but it's an assumption I'd have to make in this case.

On the other hand, Pancho may have just made a mistake and gotten himself into a situation that as a possible scum (which everybody is at this point) would not really help. His fourth vote seems like a good way of getting out of the limelight, but it is legitimate, so this option is a bit less likely in my opinion.

With that said, however, I'd like Pancho to respond and see what he thinks. I may be pushing semantics a bit, but something about the way weepingwind started off this post made it seem a bit too defensive for Pancho, but it's just a thought.

[rolandgarros]

Oh, and sorry about the accidental bbcode at the beginning of my post; I'm used to posting that way in another forum. Mod, can you possibly edit the "

" out of my last post and delete this post? Thanks.

[Pancho]

That's certainly a good point, and it may be worth giving Pancho the benefit of the doubt. After all, if he was any good at being scum, he would have attracted too much attention to himself already, which I don't think is much beneficial to any scum. This is assuming, of course, that Pancho knows what he's doing, but it's an assumption I'd have to make in this case.

On the other hand, Pancho may have just made a mistake and gotten himself into a situation that as a possible scum (which everybody is at this point) would not really help. His fourth vote seems like a good way of getting out of the limelight, but it is legitimate, so this option is a bit less likely in my opinion.

With that said, however, I'd like Pancho to respond and see what he thinks. I may be pushing semantics a bit, but something about the way weepingwind started off this post made it seem a bit too defensive for Pancho, but it's just a thought.

lol... You think that adding another vote to the end of my voting chain is a

good

way to take the spotlight off of me... That is kind of awesome...

It is posts like this that make it so l can't decide if some of you guys are being serious or just screwing around waiting for something to actually happen...

Anywho, I don't really know what you want me to respond to, as no one at all has addressed me since my last post, but rather you, big bear, and santos seem to be grilling everyone else about me (lol, what kills me is that they are still just random voting, which is what got you guys on me).


I've got very little to say at this point other than

Unvote

though I am actually getting close to wanting to lay a real vote down... but will refrain till there is just a little more content by the party in question to weigh my opinion against... (that means post more folks...)

[rolandgarros]

I meant that posting another random vote after that vote was possibly to show that you were simply just random voting and to prove your intentions. Otherwise, why would you have added that last vote?

And I wanted you to sound off on what WeepingWind wrote.