mini 819 - WWF Mafia: Over!

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:40 am

Karate Chop: Archon

Nothing more to say, I don't like the behavior of the Red Wings fan though.

The "Damn near quittin' time...again!" holdcount

Archon (5) - Locke Lamora, Sotty7, VP Baltar, DDD, don_johnson

Locke Lamora (3) - xxFabianxx, SpyreX, massive

SpyreX (1) - Kise
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1) - hambargarz
massive (1) - Archon
don_johnson (1) - Kreriov

hambargarz (0) -
VP Baltar (0) -
Kise (0) -
Sotty7 (0) -
xxFabianxx (0) -
Kreriov (0) -

Relaxing in the neutral corner:

None!

With 12 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 7 to throw someone out.

xxFabianxx · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:50 am

LL: Yes, I put it down to a brainfart on his part because I found his claim to be believable. What doesn't make sense about that? It's pretty straight forward.

Alright, with the deadline looming here I see only one option.
We can learn from an Archon lynch, remove some WIFOM and speculation about roles from the game if he flips town, and the obvious if he flips scum, so even though there is reasonable doubt in my mind,

Strong Irish Whip into the turnbuckle: Archon

massive · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:18 am

That should be 6/7 so I imagine we're going ahead with Archon. I'm watching the thread and will lay on the last vote in about five hours; any other questions people want answered before we go?

Fabian, I'm kinda surprised at your post right above mine. You were one of the strongest advocates for Archon's role claim being true. Is lynching him for information that much more valuable than your belief that he's town?

xxFabianxx · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:39 am

I think today it is, yes.
I have put myself on the line and backed up someone in a game before who I thought was town on Day 1, and refused to vote, but there are too many doubts and too much speculation in this game that will only continue tomorrow if we go to a No Lynch, and I think the town will be in a stronger position tomorrow for it.

SpyreX · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:18 pm

Keep in mind that I think this is weak.

However, it is almost deadline and nothing, absolutely nothing is going to change. After seeing how this day has went...

Moonwalk Chokeslam: Archon

(YES I THINK I AM LYNCHING TOWN GG)

hambargarz · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:31 pm

@DDD post 186: So you do admit following another person to vote. If you truly believe that I was where you're vote should be, you should have taken action and just voted. This shows you have a clear position. Waiting for someone to vote and following that vote makes you appear wishy washy and opportunistic. As if you weren't going to follow up your position if you were the only one. A very scummy play in my opinion, a townie who truly thought I was number one scum candidate would have conviction and not have to seek "pre-approval" from other players.

@DDD post 189: I believe lynching a townie is still better than no lynch. Without some kind of extra information (having a power or being scum) there is no way to be certain that a player is town. If you "firmly believed" a player was town, and everyone though he

WHAM, <Bobby:> WHAT A PERFECTLY EXECUTED BACK-BRAIN KICK!!!

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:58 pm

@205 – Yeah, you’re coming off as a hypocrite on this topic. You claim it would’ve been unacceptable for me to leave my vote on the person I deemed second most likely to be scum at the time even though a vote for my top candidate would’ve been completely ineffective. Yet somehow you suggest that your voting for a player who you believe is town and is way down on your list is acceptable?

Either we should all only be voting for the person we believe most likely to be scum or we all are allowed to make concessions to common sense concerns such as the viability of a given lynch or an impending deadline. Your attempt to apply a double standard is noted.

hambargarz · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:39 pm

I think you might have misunderstood me or maybe I wasn't clear.

I meant, lynching a townie or someone you don't particularly want to lynch is better than not lynching. I'm talking about voting when the deadline is close and consensus is needed. It's irresponsible to the town to risk no lynch.

When I referred to voting who you believe is your number one, I meant this in another context. ie. no danger of no lynch/no consensus forming without your vote.

I don't like the way you interpreted my post though, maybe you are forming some bias against me (tunneling perhaps), or maybe you have an agenda and are just searching for anything to argue against me.

Porkens · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:54 pm

End of Day 1!

The "Final" holdcount

Archon (7 <THROWN OUT>) - Locke Lamora, Sotty7, VP Baltar, DDD, don_johnson, xxFabianxx, SpyreX

Locke Lamora (1) - massive

SpyreX (1) - Kise
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1) - hambargarz
massive (1) - Archon
don_johnson (1) - Kreriov

hambargarz (0) -
VP Baltar (0) -
Kise (0) -
Sotty7 (0) -
xxFabianxx (0) -
Kreriov (0) -

Relaxing in the neutral corner:

None!

With 12 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 7 to throw someone out.

The crowd erupts into bedlam as Archon is pushed closer and closer to the edge of the ring by the other wrestlers. Mean Gene and Bobby Heenan comment...

Bobby:

Look at that, just look at that, Archon simply will not give up, what a consummate professional!

Gene:

Are you kidding me Brain?! This guy is holding on for dear life...OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT!

Bobby:

NO! The Moonwalk Chokeslam!

Gene:

That's right Brain, just look at the strength! The Moonwalk Chokeslam, the single most powerful Chokeslam in all of Professional Wrestling AND HE'S OUT OF THE RING! ARCHON HAS BEEN ELIMINATED FROM THIS BATTLE ROYALE

Bobby:

NO, NO, NO, that was an illegal move! Where are the referees looking?! What is this?!

Archon,

Jake "The Snake" Roberts,

heel

Jobber

has been Moonwalk Chokeslammed out of the ring!

The crowd goes wild but then falls dead silent as all the lights in the arena go out!!!!!! What will happen with no one able to see the match?!

It is now "Night 1"

The lights will be off for 48 hours from the time of this post.
During this time, anyone who has the ability may utilize their nightspeak.
Any/All night actions must be submitted by the posted deadline to take effect.

Porkens · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:51 pm

End of Night 1!

The lights in the arena flicker back to life to reveal a confused scene in the ring...

Gene:

What in the world is going on here Brain?!

Brain:

I tell you what Okerlund, I knew that this city had problems, but you'd think they could at least pay their electric bills...

Gene:

Careful there, Brain, don't get yourself into any more trouble. Remember what happened in Atlanta. How

is

your neck, by the way?

Brain:

The lawsuits are still pending, let's leave it at that. Now get back to the match, will you?

Gene:

Whatever you say, Bobby. Well folks, it seems that two more competitors found themselves outside the ring during our little brown-out. The referees have declared that the eliminations will be upheld, regardless of the fact that we may never know just

who

did the deed. Sadly, the two competitors who were thrown out were both crowd favorites...

Brain:

Like I've said again and again, Okerlund; just like you, no one has any taste these days. The match is better off without those two schmucks.

VP Baltar,

The Ultimate Warrior,

babyface

Tag-Team Partner

, has been

chokeslammed

out of the ring.

Kise,

Rowdy Roddy Piper,

babyface

Tag-Team Partner

, has been

hip-tossed

out of the ring.

It is now "Day 2"

The lights are now on.
Any / All night-talking must stop.
The lights will go out again in 7 days; on Sunday, July 26th at 01:00.
with 9 wrestlers in the ring, it takes 5 moves to throw someone out.

xxFabianxx · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:06 pm

Nicely done yesterday, nicely done...
I didn't see the flip coming.
Will post when I get home from work, ~8 hours.

don_johnson · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:49 am

double-fisted nut grab: kreriov

way to avoid your buddies wagon.

SpyreX · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:34 pm

I've never been so happy to be so wrong before.

Ropechoke: Kreriov

You AND Llocke have some splainin' to do. Scum aren't stupid, and both of you all but shouted "I'm not a Jobber" yesterday.

Yet you're both here. Funny how that works.

Locke Lamora · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:48 pm

Kreriov's comment shouted that out, I agree. All I did was point out that I thought jobber was the flavour for vanilla townie and didn't have anything to do with Steamboat not being a jobber in real life.

What about some explaining from you, Spyrex? Why did you think Archon was 'genuine in his bizarreness'? Archon's vote on massive just looked incredibly scummy to me, yet you seemed to dismiss it very quickly.

Kreriov · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:40 am

@SpyreX - Well, if it is not obvious by now, I am not a Jobber. After the light's went out, I figured it 50/50 that I would be a NK target because of it. I am glad I was not the target. I am not really sure what you want me to explain Spyrex. I did not know what a Jobber was until I looked it up, which I should have done instead of asking about it. I also should have been much more aggressive in questioning Archon about it. His claimed guy simply was not a jobber.

And DJ, you are an idiot. I had every opportunity, hell, VP Baltar pratically begged, for me to vote for Archon. As scum, that gives me incredible cover and great opportunity to bus him and appear super townie. As town, however, I believed Archon's claim so did not vote for him.

Sotty7 · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:48 am

Your last part there Kreriov is pretty much WIFOM. Yeah you could have bussed him, but yeah you also could have not voted for him to make just that argument about bussing.

Why did you feel the need to confirm that you

aren't

a jobber?

Kreriov · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:56 am

@Sotty7 - Um, you did read SpyreX's post right? I did not shout it despite SpyreX trying to mischaracterize it that way. Anyone reading me ISO and with half a brain will see that I did not know what a Jobber was when Archon claimed it. Pretty tough to say you are a Jobber after doing that I would say.

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:13 am

Got four people I'm considering as scum: Kreriov, Fabian, Hambargarz, and SpyreX. All did their best to either avoid an Archon lynch when it was the only course of action or tried to stop it earlier and only hopped on when it was inevitable.

don_johnson · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:47 am

dj is not an idiot and would also like to know why ddd is leaving him off his list.

kick to knee: ddd

Kreriov · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:50 am

@DDD - tried to stop it or tried to hop on? I did neither, actually.

Old Glory: Debonair Danny DiPietro

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:57 am

@Kreriov - Not in so many words, but when push came to shove you voted for a non-viable target nearing deadline, essentially voting for a no lynch instead of voting for the player we now know is scum.

don_johnson · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:00 am

^^ dj agrees entirely.

clothesline: kreriov

Kreriov · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:19 am

@DDD - So? I did not vote for someone whose claim I believed and voted for someone whom I thought scummy. If people were so desperate to lynch someone, anyone, they could just as easily voted for don_johnson, someone whom has been absolutely no help at all. You try to lock people in and classify them as scum because they do not follow your direction or logic. Sorry, THAT is scummy.

Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:31 am

@Kreriov - And you can say that people could’ve voted don and that’s technically correct, but it doesn’t match with the reality of this game. Six people were not all of the sudden going to shift to vote for a different player with just twelve hours until deadline and for you to argue that it was a possibility shows either ignorance to a huge degree or disingenuous to the same huge degree.

Kreriov · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:31 am

@DDD - Not at all. I believed Archon. For you to try and force me or expect me to vote for him simply because you think I should is wrong. I do not vote for someone I think is town. I learned that lesson a long time ago and the one time I violated it recently, I learned that lesson again. Trying to convince me, or anyone else, otherwise is scummy. It indicates an ulterior motive on your part.