Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!

[MafiaMann]

No saying if you dont vote your scum is not effective because who but scum would do things purely to prove they are not scum

[Iecerint]

No saying if you dont vote your scum is not effective because who but scum would do things purely to prove they are not scum

Could you quote the specific Kmd comments you find objectionable?

[Kmd4390]

No saying if you dont vote your scum is not effective because who but scum would do things purely to prove they are not scum

What? Voting isn't something you do to prove you aren't scum. Voting is something you do to catch scum. People who don't vote are effectively taking a backseat and making themselves harder to read while also setting themselves up to vote whoever they want to near a deadline. Voting is protown. Not voting is scummy.

[MafiaMann]

satan the one right before mine i dont quote because its nuisance to remove names. Im just saying explaining to the entire town that if you dont vote your scum isnt going to help you catch scum who arent voting

[Iecerint]

Then it was directed at Batt, right? I was thrown off by the use of second person after Kmd answered you.

I don't think Batt quite framed it that way. His point is that votes are information. Information is protown because it can be analyzed. In the absence of information, lynches are random and mafia wins on average. I agree with Kmd on that point.

[Battousai]

First off- I didn't say if you don't vote, you are scum. But by refusing to vote, you may help scum into not voting (they have the a townie did it excuse), and hurting the town by not letting them get a read off of your votes.

Secondly- Why do you refuse to even scumhunt? You come on here, defend your right to not vote, and then don't even try to tell us how you feel about anything that has happened since you were gone.

[mykonian]

mykonian- You think 4 days before deadline is too fast for a lynch?

i have been clear in my choice, seen over all play. I have given plenty of opinions.

what I was asking was for others to be constructive too, and work towards a lynch, so we don't have to pick the one with the most votes one hour before deadline.

Yea...seeing stronger Myk-Krev connections from that post alone.

but at least make it distancing in stead of buddying, and please point out then why this points at us being scum.

Um. Weirdest post of the game. Did you just admit to distancing when accused of buddying and ask why it's a scumtell?

the problem with what mastin says is that it is quite baseless, and seen what I said about Kreviov doesn't even make sense. Which reinforces me into thinking he didn't read the thread well, and just wanted to bring pressure on Kreviov and me, after having seen the last votecount.


Iece: what did you want from me?

Phily: could you stop defending KMD? You continue to do it. And could you stop tunneling? Less bullshit please, more finding scum. Because your only case is that my case on KMD sucks, something you called bad yourself.

Mafiaman doesn't understand the game, as battousai was completely reasonable in his last posts.

[Kreriov]

@KMd - I am not. A simple look at my posts in ISO will show where I caught you misrepresenting me. Your excuse was you were lazy. Whatever, laziness or intenional, misrepresenting is scummy behavior.

[Kmd4390]

the problem with what mastin says is that it is quite baseless, and seen what I said about Kreviov doesn't even make sense. Which reinforces me into thinking he didn't read the thread well, and just wanted to bring pressure on Kreviov and me, after having seen the last votecount.

And if he'd read more closely, he'd have seen the two of you distancing?

@KMd - I am not. A simple look at my posts in ISO will show where I caught you misrepresenting me. Your excuse was you were lazy. Whatever, laziness or intenional, misrepresenting is scummy behavior.

I admitted to being lazy. I did NOT admit to any misreps.

[Looker]

settling into okinawa, will try to catch up

[ZazieR]

Ztife will be replaced

[ZazieR]

1) Kmd4390 (2) - Kreriov, Mykonian

2) mykonian (3) - PhilyEc, Battousai, Mastin

3) Mastin
4) Ztife (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) MafiaMann
8) Kreriov
9) Tenchi (2) - Kmd4390, Iecerint
10) PhilyEc
11) Battousai (1) - Tenchi
12) Gregory (1) - Mafiamann

Not voting (2) - Ztife, Gregory

With 12 players alive, you''ll need 7 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.

Room 1: Male Restroom - Kmd4390

Room 2: ???

Room 3: Library
Room 4: Hospital Room - Gregory, Looker, Iecerint

Room 5: ???

Room 6: Dark Room - Battousai
Room 7: Storage Room - PhilyEc, Mykonian
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom - Kreriov
Room 10: Empty Room

Room 11: ???

Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room - Ztife

Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???

Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.

Corridor - Tenchi, Mafiamann, Mastin

NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.

[ZazieR]

Mod: Can we get an extension to hopefully get replacements replaced by end of the day

Replacement. Only Ztife is getting replaced.
Deadline extension would need a majority as stated in the rules.

[Kreriov]

@Kmd - Of course you do not admit to misrepresenting. You have just been shown to have done so.

[mykonian]

Kreviov... interesting...

now please, a bit more constructive.

There are at least 4 that want to lynch me. The three who vote me, and KMD. Are there more?
There are now 2 on KMD, are there more that would like that lynch?
Tenchi is an old favorite, and Iecerint is still in favor. I do agree that lurking is not the best thing he could do, and I'm probably a classic example for a person that is affected by it, but anyway: are there 7 who would like this lynch?
Mafiamann is clearly not helping, and looks obviousscum. Recent posts make me agree with a wagon on him.

did I miss someone, or are this the persons we should look at seriously for this lynch? In that case, please post with what lynches you would agree. My vote could be on mafiaman or KMD, I think.

This is no longer making cases, this is placing the vote for the person you want to lynch. We should have some information, and there are some wagons that could be succesful, now we only need to see what wagons would be on scum.

[Kreriov]

@Mykonian - Well, what more do you want? Kmd is used/is using a strawman attack on me. One which I specifically discredited. I showed, twice, exactly how he was misrepresenting things I have said and his reply was that he was lazy? Seriously? My vote is where I think it will do the most good.

[mykonian]

the problem with what mastin says is that it is quite baseless, and seen what I said about Kreviov doesn't even make sense. Which reinforces me into thinking he didn't read the thread well, and just wanted to bring pressure on Kreviov and me, after having seen the last votecount.

And if he'd read more closely, he'd have seen the two of you distancing?

the fact that I attacked Kreviov for his scumlist makes this a bit weird, yes. So if I and Kreviov have anything to do with eachother, it would never by buddying, it would be distancing. Mastin obviously hasn't read, and wanted pressure on both me and Kreviov.

@Kreviov: some posts are just not worth making. We know where you stand.

[Battousai]

Does anyone else want an extension?

[Iecerint]

myko, I was answering this post:

It's only a lie if Kmd is scum. Otherwise, it's just a bad guess.

and who do you want to lynch.

same for phily: please be constructive. You said yourself you hated people that went around calling other peoples cases bad. Please pick out the best one, so we don't have to go to fast for a lynch.

I had just voted for Tenchi in my prior post and spelled-out why. That's all I was pointing out

[mykonian]

I'm sorry. I knew, I think.

but not a lot of sleep makes me think slow, I guess. I did notice your post though...

[ZazieR]

Don_johnson replaces Ztife Thanks a lot

[don_johnson]

replacing in. i have to pee.

[dj enters room 1]

[Iecerint]

An extension wouldn't hurt my feelings. I want Tenchi to participate.

[mykonian]

replacing in. i have to pee.

[dj enters room 1]

Last time I enjoyed our agreement

don't lurk, or I'll vote you

and hello!

[PhilyEc]

Phily: could you stop defending KMD? You continue to do it. And could you stop tunneling? Less bullshit please, more finding scum. Because your only case is that my case on KMD sucks, something you called bad yourself.

Eh? Would you stop breezing my attacks on you as that? I obviously think you're scum and I think you're the one talking bullshit, I've made this clear. The fact that you dont address my posts and simply ask me to leave you alone confirm that you dont want to directly confront my accusations.

You're playing scummy, you're making cheap accusations without backing up your statements with proof and you're completely dead set on mirroring your own mistakes onto other people. I think you're scum because of your gameplay

throughout

this game. You think this is madness? Then why do a majority of the town seem to agree your actions have been scummy? Myk, you're either in denial or else just continuing to ignore the problems I have with your approach on this game.

I pressure you, and you tell me I'm not scumhunting. Problem is, I think you're one of the scum in this game.